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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    authorised, "inspected", and reported
    yes inspected within quote marks.
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    Former Wisconsin pharmacist who tampered with COVID vaccines sentenced to 3 years in federal prison

    https://www.cbs58.com/news/former-wisconsin-pharmacist-who-tampered-with-covid-vaccines-sentenced-to-3-years-in-federal-prison

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    First of all, I'm not going to read 425 pages of this thread.



    I got an email today telling me I am booked in for the 15th June to get vaccinated.

    I reply saying they got the wrong guy, I have not been consulted about this and asked what I'm being vaccinated against.

    They say it's defo me, in Thailand, and it's a COVID-19 vaccine.

    I tell them I am not available on this date. I ask if this is mandatory, what vaccine is on offer and if it's free.

    They tell me, Astrozeneca is the cocktail on offer and that it's free from the government.



    So now I'm confused. I have been on the fence with this one, with the mind that I'm not going to go out of my way to get the vaccine but will go willingly if it comes to the point I HAVE to get it. Like for a job or travel or because they make it legally mandatory.

    I can register in Hat Yai for the Moderna vaccine.

    I've not been following this and don't know about the different vaccines. Any advice or opinions appreciated.
    Lang may yer lum reek...

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    If you can get 2 x Moderna, that is probably your best bet.

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    Take the vaccine on offer. It's way better than no vaccine at all.

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    I’m not really sure why I’ve been offered it at all at this point. I seem to have been flagged for it due to having a work permit.

    But at 38 y/o I’d have thought there would be groups in more need of it than myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    Take the vaccine on offer.
    And there are people who question the fact (with some hypothetical insinuation) why there are incentives offered in case you take the vaccine...

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    I never did figure out how things went over there, just normally went with the 'flow'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    I’m not really sure why I’ve been offered it at all at this point. I seem to have been flagged for it due to having a work permit.

    But at 38 y/o I’d have thought there would be groups in more need of it than myself.
    What's your job? Public facing?

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    Thai doctor clears up vaccine fears.

    "The deaths were from severe undesirable symptoms and were not a result of receiving the vaccine... People can rest assured that the vaccines are safe," Dr Chawetsan said.


    Undesirable symptoms or side effects could be the body's reaction to foreign substances, and vaccines were foreign substances, he said.
    Thanks for clearing that up Doc.

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...e-coincidental

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    What's your job? Public facing?
    No, working in remote shit holes. So quite the opposite.

    Could be travel related.

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    China Returns to Its Strict Covid Restrictions to Fight a New Outbreak

    BEIJING — Neighborhoods under strict lockdown. Thousands quarantined. Millions tested in mere days. Overseas arrivals locked up for weeks and sometimes months.

    China has followed variations of that formula for dealing with the coronavirus for more than a year — and a new outbreak suggests that they could be part of Chinese life for some time to come.




    China appeared to get the coronavirus under control nearly a year ago. But hundreds of millions of Chinese people remain unvaccinated. New variants of the coronavirus have appeared, and questions remain about whether China’s self-made vaccines can stop them.


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    The latest cases have been found in Guangzhou, capital of the southern province of Guangdong. The authorities have blamed the Delta variant, which has caused widespread loss of life in India.


    The city tested practically its entire population of 18.7 million between Sunday and Tuesday, some of them for the second time. It has also put neighborhoods with a total of more than 180,000 residents into total lockdowns, with practically no one allowed out except for medical testing.


    The early infections appear to have jumped from person to person at a cluster of eateries. Each infected person has infected more other people than in any previous outbreak that China has confronted, Zhang Zhoubin, deputy director of the Guangzhou Center for Disease Control, said at a news conference.


    “The epidemic faced by Guangzhou this time is an unprecedented opponent, and it requires more resolute and decisive measures to deal with it,” he said.


    Test facilities in Guangzhou have been operating around the clock. Lines are long. Residents wake early to try to beat the rush, but still find delays.


    Mandy Li, a longtime resident of the city’s Liwan District, where most of the infections have occurred, said she set her alarm clock for 3:30 a.m. She still had to wait an hour.


    “In the queue, there was a family of three,” she said. “Some woke their kids to line up, and some had strollers. But everyone was cooperative and quiet, as we know some volunteers and medical workers worked very hard and they’ve been there all this time without rest.”


    China’s approach has evolved since the coronavirus first emerged, when Beijing initially put harsh restrictions on hundreds of millions of people. Today its lockdowns are focused on neighborhoods rather than cities or provinces. China has made vaccination the centerpiece of its strategy.

    Still, many of the core tenets remain for a huge and densely populated country: vast testing, strict limits on movement and intense scrutiny of arrivals from other countries.


    Foreign businesses have worried that those limits on international travelers could snarl their plans. A European Union Chamber of Commerce survey released this week found that three-quarters of member companies said they had been adversely affected by travel restrictions, usually by hindering them from bringing in key engineers or executives.


    Beijing has demanded that travelers from dozens of countries spend two weeks in employer-supervised quarantine even before flying to China. Once there, travelers must spend at least two weeks and sometimes three or longer in government-supervised quarantine, even if they are fully vaccinated. Rounds of tests can turn up a possibly false positive, leading to more tests and additional days or weeks in isolation.

    A German national who flew into Shanghai last month said that he had been sent to a hospital isolation room for three days because he tested positive for antibodies, which he attributed to taking a second vaccine dose 16 days earlier.


    Nurses took his blood twice a day and performed six throat swabs, four nasal swabs and two anal swabs daily, said the German, who insisted on anonymity to avoid offending the authorities. The hospital room had no towels, no toilet paper and no television, and the bed was a steel plate with a thin mat, he said.


    The German said that, after consistently testing negative for the virus, he was allowed to spend the remaining 11 days of isolation in a government-supervised quarantine center.


    Many businesses expect that China may retain stringent travel restrictions through February, when Beijing will host the Winter Olympics, and possibly through autumn of next year, when the Chinese Communist Party will hold its party congress.


    Many foreigners in China face a choice: If they leave to visit spouses, children and other family members elsewhere, they may be unable to re-enter the country later because of the pandemic restrictions.


    “There is absolutely a growing fatigue for a lot of the foreigners who are here,” said Jacob Gunter, senior policy and communications manager at the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China.


    At home, China’s leaders are pushing its people to get vaccinated. It has administered about 800 million doses by the government’s count, compared with 300 million administered in the United States. Yin Weidong, the chairman and chief executive of Sinovac Biotech, one of China’s main vaccine manufacturers, told state television last Friday that Chinese regulators had approved the emergency use of vaccines in children as young as 3.


    Still, administering 800 million doses — almost all of the vaccines require two shots — means most of China’s 1.4 billion people have not been fully vaccinated. Some people remain hesitant to get the shots, and Chinese media outlets have used the Guangzhou outbreak to encourage skeptics to get inoculated.

    The spread of the virus has raised fresh questions about the effectiveness of China’s vaccines, particularly against variants. The Seychelles last month and now Mongolia in the past three weeks have both had large numbers of infections despite high vaccination rates. Both have used the Sinopharm vaccine from China, although the Seychelles also relied partly on AstraZeneca vaccines.

    The Delta variant now circulating in Guangzhou has also shown the ability in other countries to infect some people who had already been vaccinated, a phenomenon known as vaccine escape. Research elsewhere has found that to be a particular problem for people who have received only a first injection of a two-jab vaccine and are then exposed to the Delta variant.

    Researchers in Britain have found that receiving only the first of two shots of the Oxford-AstraZeneca or Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines may be only 30 percent effective in preventing infection with the Delta variant, said Raina MacIntyre, who heads the biosecurity program at the Kirby Institute of the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia.


    After two doses, effectiveness appears to rise to 60 percent with the AstraZeneca vaccine and 88 percent with Pfizer-BioNTech. “With the degree of vaccine escape there is with the Delta variant, you really do need people to be fully vaccinated,” she said.


    Mr. Yin, of Sinovac, told China’s state-run television on Saturday that a third shot of his company’s vaccine produces a tenfold increase in antibodies within a week. But Chinese vaccine manufacturers are not yet recommending a third dose.


    “As far as China is concerned, in fact, completing the two-shot immunization is the most important task for all the public,” he said.


    In the meantime, Guangzhou has tried to turn its virus setback into a showcase for local technologies. Officials there said they had used 31 driverless shuttle vans and trucks to send food and other critical supplies into locked down neighborhoods to avoid exposing delivery personnel.


    By Tuesday, Guangdong Province had 157 people in hospital with the virus and was announcing about 10 new cases per day. The province and also Guangzhou itself have banned anyone since last weekend from leaving unless they have a valid reason and a negative nucleic acid test for the virus within the preceding 48 hours.


    Unlike many places around the world, Guangzhou at least does not have to worry about running out of pandemic supplies: It is coincidentally a hub for manufacturing and exporting them. Chen Jianhua, chief economist of the Guangzhou Bureau of Industry and Information Technology, said at a news conference on Wednesday that the city’s daily production capacity was 91 million masks and seven million sets of coronavirus detection chemicals.



    China Returns to Its Strict Covid Restrictions to Fight a New Outbreak

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    locked up for weeks and sometimes months.
    So, nothing changes then

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    So which one is recognized in Europe if I want to travel back home? Sinovac isn't, right? Astrazeneca is....I think. So wouldn't that be the best option?

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    So, why to worry when the death rate is only some 0,001%?

    BTW, wondering whether I would worry playing a Russian roulette with the same figures? (But it's not the same is it?)

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    Seattle becomes first major US city to reach 70% COVID-19 vaccination rate

    Seattle hit an important milestone in its fight against the COVID-19 pandemic on Wednesday: 70% of its residents 12 and older are now fully vaccinated, according to the city.

    The city is now pacing ahead of San Francisco, which was leading the country, in its vaccination efforts. Vermont leads the country for the state with the highest vaccination rate. Seventy-eight percent of Seattle residents ages 12 and older have initiated the vaccine process, receiving at least one dose of the vaccine.

    "Seattle is America’s most vaccinated major city, and it would not have been possible without our residents’ commitment to protecting themselves, their loved ones, and our entire community," Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan said in a statement Wednesday. "Now that we have reached community protection, we can lead the nation in safely reopening and recovering in earnest. Seattleites – get outside and support a local small business, help revive our historic arts and cultural scene, and enjoy our unparalleled Seattle summers safely."

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    The news comes as a mass vaccination site in West Seattle is set to close on Wednesday. Two other stationary high-volume sites, one at Lumen Field and one at Rainier Beach, will close later this month as mobile efforts ramp up. One local effort from the Seattle Fire Department is setting up clinics at breweries and farmers markets throughout the city to encourage more vaccination.

    Despite the hopeful milestone, a mask directive still remains in place in King County, which currently has 68.6% of residents who have received one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine according to the county dashboard. The directive, which urges continued use of face masks in indoor spaces, will lift once the county reaches 70%.

    The city said with community protection now reached it will also begin efforts for economic recovery including "supporting local small retailers and restaurants, arts and culture programming, and bolstering transit use."

    As the state is approaching a full economic reopening at the end of June, vaccine demand has been softening over the past few weeks. In the entire state, 64% of the population 16 and older — or 3.9 million residents — have received one dose as of June 5. Fifty-six percent of the population in the state is fully vaccinated. Those numbers do not include the 116,000 residents ages 12 to 15 who have received at least one dose of the vaccine.

    https://www.seattlepi.com/coronaviru...e-16236955.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat bastard View Post
    So which one is recognized in Europe if I want to travel back home? Sinovac isn't, right? Astrazeneca is....I think. So wouldn't that be the best option?
    ...Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    No, working in remote shit holes. So quite the opposite.

    Could be travel related.
    Most likely is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    ...Yes.


    Thanks Cyrille.

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    The ol' chinkies will be spitting feathers.

    The Biden administration is buying 500 million doses of Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine to donate to the world as the United States dramatically increases its efforts to help vaccinate more of the global population, three people familiar with the plans said Wednesday.

    The first 200 million doses will be distributed this year, with the subsequent 300 million shared in the first half of next year. The doses will be distributed by Covax, the World Health Organization-backed initiative to share doses around the globe, and they will be targeted at low- and middle-income countries. Pfizer is selling the doses to the United States at a “not-for-profit” price, according to the people familiar with the deal, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share details that were not yet public.The Biden administration is buying 500 million doses of Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine to donate to the world as the United States dramatically increases its efforts to help vaccinate more of the global population, three people familiar with the plans said Wednesday.

    The first 200 million doses will be distributed this year, with the subsequent 300 million shared in the first half of next year. The doses will be distributed by Covax, the World Health Organization-backed initiative to share doses around the globe, and they will be targeted at low- and middle-income countries. Pfizer is selling the doses to the United States at a “not-for-profit” price, according to the people familiar with the deal, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share details that were not yet public.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...rce=reddit.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    within quote marks.
    double quote marks
    OMG, is there a difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    OMG, is there a difference?
    Of course there is, you semiliterate slubberdegullion.

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    The chinkies will be spitting even more feathers...

    Leaders at the G7 summit will call for a new, transparent investigation by the World Health Organization into the origins of the coronavirus, according to a leaked draft communique for the meeting.

    The call was initiated by Joe Biden’s administration and follows the US president’s decision to expand the American investigation into the origins of the pandemic, with one intelligence agency leaning towards the theory that it escaped from a Wuhan laboratory.
    G7 leaders will call for fresh WHO inquiry into Covid origins, leaked communique suggests | G7 | The Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The ol' chinkies will be spitting feathers.
    Hardly.

    "On June 2, 2021, China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that China has provided “more than 350 million doses of vaccines to the international community, including vaccine assistance to over 80 countries and vaccine exports to more than 40 countries.”"

    China COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker - Bridge Consulting

    China has delivered already. By next year will have probably delivered another few hundreds of millions

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    is buying 500 million doses of Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine to donate to the world as the United States dramatically increases its efforts to help vaccinate more of the global population, three people familiar with the plans said Wednesday.

    The first 200 million doses will be distributed this year, with the subsequent 300 million shared in the first half of 3. next year.
    amersitan "plans to"and allegedly "deliver", subject to :

    1. The "plan" being agreed, voted through various groups, appropriate funds being available,

    2. Some now, once 1. is agreed, delivered

    3. Some possibly next year, voted through various groups, appropriate funds being available,

    4. Pending their own domestic requirements are met and delivered, another winter to survive,

    5. Biden is still president,

    6. Any new president annulling the deal

    7. All receiving countries and World Health Organization doing what they are told


    China government acted, designed, manufactured and delivered vaccines.

    3 unnamed, ameristani people, promising, futures once again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    China government acting, delivering fact.
    You really are an idiot. The Chinese vaccines don't work, and those people will have to be revaccinated with other vaccines that actually work.

    Covenant that you missed this post...

    https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-as...ml#post4267361 (The COVID-2019 Thread)

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