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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Their current numbers are the lowest they've been in almost a year, so what's your point?

    Two percent of the population infected is hardly herd immunity.
    It's you who's talking about herd immunity, not me.

    My point is no lockdowns and less than 1% of the population have got the lurgy (the real facts are almost 130 million pop, 2,725 cases as of yesterday despite your lies).

    Facts not fear.
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    Doesn’t look so glowing for the Mexicans. Nearly a quarter a million people dead and that’s underestimated.


    For 94% of those who died from Covid, staying at home wasn’t an option

    Mexicans who had no option but to keep going out to work during the coronavirus pandemic died in much greater numbers than people who were able to work from home, a new study has found.


    Conducted by public health researchers at the National Autonomous University (UNAM), the study found that 94% of the more than 200,000 people who lost their lives to Covid-19 in Mexico were manual and operational workers, housewives, retirees and pensioners.


    Only 6% were professionals, executives and art and performance workers, the study said.

    Among the large numbers of manual and operational workers who died after contracting Covid-19 were drivers, street vendors, medical personnel, agricultural workers and factory employees. People in such jobs — with the exception of healthcare — generally have lower levels of education than citizens who are able to work from home.


    “There is no doubt that Covid-19 has greatly affected the population with lower levels of education; practically half the deaths occurred among people whose highest level of education was primary school,” said the UNAM study, written by Alejandro Cortés-Meda and Guadalupe Ponciano-Rodríguez.


    The study said that people who continued to work at factories, farms and essential businesses and on public transit had a greater possibility of exposure to the coronavirus due to factors such as close contact with the public and other workers.


    It also noted that it was impossible for such workers to work from home. Many are not entitled to sick leave and have poor access to healthcare, the study added. Those same workers often work long shifts in order to cover their expenses and are at high risk of spreading the coronavirus to members of their family.


    The study also found that 92% of Covid-19 deaths occurred in public healthcare facilities during the first year of the pandemic. More than half — 52% — occurred in Mexican Social Security Institute hospitals, 32% occurred in facilities operated by the federal Health Ministry and 8% occurred in hospitals run by the State Workers Social Security Institute.


    Only 2% of deaths occurred at private hospitals, the report said. Many other people whose deaths were attributed to Covid-19 died at home, often without ever being tested for the infectious disease.


    As of Sunday, Mexico had officially recorded 221,647 Covid-19 fatalities, but the government has acknowledged that the real death toll is much higher. An analysis published earlier this month by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington School of Medicine showed that more than 617,000 people had died from Covid-19 in Mexico.

    For 94% of those who died from Covid, staying at home wasn't an option

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    Unfortunately, yes, misskit. If you are poor and sick, the China flu could get you.

    Especially if you'e old, sick and obese. Throw 3rd world poverty into the mix and it's time to call your maker and arrange your best clothes.

    However, as per my post above, less than 3,000 people were diagnosed with Covid in Mexico yesterday - over 99% of whom will be A-OK - from a population of over 127 million.

    It seems they're doing pretty ok and they have far more pressing concerns than a cold and sniffle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    My point is no lockdowns and less than 1% of the population have got the lurgy (the real facts are almost 130 million pop, 2,725 cases as of yesterday despite your lies).
    My lies??? What on earth are you talking about? Your 2,725 number was new cases for just yesterday.

    Totals in Mexico
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    2.41M

    Recovered
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    Deaths
    223K

    And Mexico does have lockdowns, they use a stoplight system.

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    [QUOTE=pickel;4265320]My lies??? /QUOTE]

    Yes, you saying that 2% of people are affected. They're not and nobody gives a fuck about a sniffle.

    At least try to keep up with your bullshit, you stupid c.u.n.t.

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    I don't think you quite understand what herd immunity is. Nice to know I got under your skin though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
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    I don't think you quite understand what herd immunity is. Nice to know I got under your skin though.
    I don't think you quite understand that we haven't been talking about herd immunity, you thick twat.

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    Last edited by S Landreth; 31-05-2021 at 06:51 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    I'm not sure what your point is, BB, but the 99% survival rate is from your very own CDC and only falls to less than 95% when you look at the over 70s (it's most often comorbidities that do for people too, so 2 or more existing illnesses).

    Would you not say these odds are pretty favourable?

    As I said, I'm trying to be sensitive here to the members, but my mum is in the same boat and I see the harm that the worry and being unable to get out of the house is doing to her. Sorry if I come across otherwise.
    My point is that the survivability rate is what it is because we are such "Covid zombie's" if we were happy-go-luckys singing "the sun will come out tomorrow" things would had been much much worst.
    We do, and we do, and we do, and what thanks do we get? You think it is easy walking around looking for Covid Brains.
    So if you like the 99% survivability rate, a little thanks to the "Covid Zombies " might be in order, In My not so Humble Opinion .
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    My point is that the survivability rate is what it is because we are such "Covid zombie's" if we were happy-go-luckys singing "the sun will come out tomorrow" things would had been much much worst.
    We do, and we do, and we do, and what thanks do we get? You think it is easy walking around looking for Covid Brains.
    So if you like the 99% survivability rate, a little thanks to the "Covid Zombies " might be in order, In My not so Humble Opinion .
    I'm still struggling to make sense of your post (is English your first language?), but I suggest you go on to read my posts about my old dear and the cumulative effects of project fear.

    I'm usually right about most things and I am too regarding this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    I'm still struggling to make sense of your post (is English your first language?), but I suggest you go on to read my posts about my old dear and the cumulative effects of project fear.

    I'm usually right about most things and I am too regarding this.
    I am also often puzzled why people are not reasonable and see things my way. We should start a club.
    We will call it the" Wache Mare for you" club

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Have you seen the current situation in Mexico? Next to no deaths as a nation and many regions have barely been affected by the sniffles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Have you seen the current situation in Mexico? Next to no deaths as a nation and many regions have barely been affected by the sniffles.
    Almost 10% of those catching the virus has died, that is not "next to no deaths".
    That figure is 5-10 times higher than it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Almost 10% of those catching the virus has died, that is not "next to no deaths".
    That figure is 5-10 times higher than it should be.
    What a load of bullshit!

    Those are the recorded figures of tests and do not include the more than 70% who have either been asymptomatic or have recovered at home with little more than a sniffle and no need for a test because MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN GET A COLD.

    Pull yourself togerher, you daft COVID zombies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Those are the recorded figures of tests and do not include the more than 70% who have either been asymptomatic or have recovered at home with little more than a sniffle.
    That is not unique for Mexico, that is something Mexico has in common with most other countries.
    1-2%, not 10% seems to be the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    I am also often puzzled why people are not reasonable and see things my way. We should start a club.
    We will call it the" Wache Mare for you" club
    Just start speaking English a little bit better.

    That's all I'm asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    That is not unique for Mexico, that is something Mexico has in common with most other countries.
    1-2%, not 10% seems to be the norm.
    They had less than 3000 cases yesterday. The population is almost 130 million.

    Are you fucking thick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    They had less than 3000 cases yesterday. The population is almost 130 million.
    New cases yesterday 2725, new deaths yesterday 387..
    The daily deaths was at lowest in beginning of April (204) and has almost doubled since.

    Number of cases is less relevant than number of deaths because it wholly depends on number of tests.
    Number of deaths per population is the figure which shows how well a country copes with the pandemic.
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    Saving lives, not playing politics

    By Zhang Zhouxiang | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2021-05-28 14:49

    "On Wednesday, the number of deaths in Taiwan due to the new wave of COVID-19 pandemic reached 11 on one single day. Yet on the same day, Brent Christensen, the head of American Institute in Taiwan, said "infection numbers remained quite low" and that they were still in talks on vaccines. The total number of deaths reached 47 on Friday, while that of new infections exceeded 667. Is that number high enough for Christensen?

    The recent wave has revealed the true face of some sides, with US politicians topping the list. US politicians are interested in only selling weapons to Taiwan to prevent China's reunification, and when the Taiwan people need vaccines, US politicians go quiet.

    The US House of Representatives introduced the "Ensuring American Global Leadership and Engagement" Act, the so-called EAGLE Act, on Tuesday, which mentioned "supporting Taiwan". Their "support" is made of 100 percent missile and machine guns, and zero percent vaccines. They want their "support" to cause trouble, not save lives.

    The local ruling Democratic Progressive Party politicians are no better. Tsai Ing-wen, the local leader, claimed via her Facebook account that they could not finish signing vaccine contracts with Germany-based BNT because of the Chinese mainland, a statement which received fierce criticism in the comment section.

    The fact is that mainland enterprises have signed an exclusive contract with BNT, so the only way for Taiwan to legally purchase vaccines from the latter is via the mainland. Yet Tsai, for political reasons, wants to avoid having contact with the mainland.

    Is there anything more absurd than this? Tsai is only concerned about her political interests, not the lives of Taiwan people.

    The mainland people most care about the health and lives of compatriots on the Taiwan island. Even though the DPP opposes it, the Chinese mainland has expressed willingness to assist Taiwan with vaccines to help protect the compatriots there. On Wednesday, Zhu Fenglian, spokeswoman of the Taiwan Affairs Office of the State Council, said: "Vaccines made on the Chinese mainland are certified by the WHO. Do you want them or not?"

    Hope the DPP reverses its course soon. After all, people on the other side of the Taiwan Straits are our compatriots."

    Saving lives, not playing politics - Opinion - Chinadaily.com.cn
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    Something on the order of 70% of those coming out of moderate to serious COVID-19 are showing persisting symptoms. That is a huge number.

    The most commonly occurring symptoms were shortness of breath, fatigue, exhaustion and sleep problems. “The numbers are very shocking, especially for fatigue and shortness of breath,” Nasserie said. “These were pretty debilitating symptoms, with some people reporting difficulty walking up a flight of stairs.” About 40% of patients said they experienced fatigue, 36% said they experienced shortness of breath and 29% said they experienced sleep disorders. Depression and anxiety, along with general pain and discomfort, were also relatively common: About 20% of patients described these symptoms. An inability to concentrate, commonly referred to as “brain fog,” was mentioned by about 25% of patients.


    Brain Fog and Other Symptoms Persist for Months After COVID-19 Infection | Technology Networks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Something on the order of 70% of those coming out of moderate to serious COVID-19 are showing persisting symptoms. That is a huge number.
    I'd suggest that symptoms such as shortness of breath, sleep disorders and 'brain fog' would be fairly common, if not almost inevitable, after any illness preceded and followed by a lengthy period of physical inactivity.

    Especially if the patient is in the age group most susceptible to the COVID virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Just start speaking English a little bit better.

    That's all I'm asking.
    Ok, I promise to speak slower for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Unfortunately, yes, misskit. If you are poor and sick, the China flu could get you.

    Especially if you'e old, sick and obese. Throw 3rd world poverty into the mix and it's time to call your maker and arrange your best clothes.
    Good Lord Hal, you are openly advocating a course of action wrt COVID which you know will increase mortality for these groups, developed societies normally try to care for the disadvantaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    "Vaccines made on the Chinese mainland are certified by the WHO. Do you want them or not?"
    If ever there was a good reason to avoid the chinky shit, there it is right there.

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    621 million shots administered in China as usage of 3-dose vaccine expanded

    Amid recent sporadic outbreaks, China continues to expand and accelerate nationwide inoculation with the launch of the country's first three-dose COVID-19 vaccine, which experts said would provide extra protection than the one-dose and two-dose candidates. The three-shot vaccine is already being administered in at least 13 provincial-level regions in China.


    The three-dose COVID-19 vaccine was jointly developed by the Institute of Microbiology of Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) and Anhui Zhifei Longcom Biopharmaceutical. It is China's first, as well as the world's first recombinant subunit protein vaccine and it has already been approved by Chinese national authority, according to the website of the CAS microbiology institute.

    MORE 621 million shots administered in China as usage of 3-dose vaccine expanded - Global Times

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