The COVID-2019 Thread

[russellsimpson]

^ I agree. Wouldn't think twice about it.

Maybe not such an important thing but if the school is that interested in you taking the jab why not do it just for the sake of promoting long term harmony.

You're a far more experienced hand in these matters than myself but I didn't feel it too terrible to offer an opinion.

[Joe 90]

A fair bit of negative press associated with Sinovac, not nearly on the same level as AZ...

A healthcare worker prepares a syringe with a dose of Sinovac's COVID-19 vaccine at the Bang Khun Thian Geriatric Hospital in Bangkok, Thailand April 21, 2021. REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha

Thailand will continue to use COVID-19 vaccine from China's Sinovac Biotech (SVA.O) following six reports of unusual "stroke-like" side effects among recipients, government-appointed experts said on Wednesday.

Six medical personnel in Rayong province, east of Bangkok, who were inoculated earlier this month experienced symptoms similar to those of a stroke, the panel of experts said, including drowsiness and numbness in the limbs.

They have since recovered after being given stroke treatments and no blood clots were found.

The announcement comes amid heightened global focus on efficacy levels and possible side-effects from different COVID-19 vaccines, and temporary suspensions in some countries, including over reports of blood clots among some recipients.

Sinovac did not immediately respond to an email requesting comment.

Thailand has received two million doses of the Chinese company's CoronaVac, which have already been administered to more than 600,000 people nationwide. It has ordered 1.5 million more shots due to arrive soon.

The experts could not say for certain what caused the symptoms, which they believed may be related to the nervous system and were not fatal, said Kulkanya Chokephaibulkit from Bangkok's Siriraj Hospital.

Brain scans from all six women showed normal results which did not suggest a stroke, and no irregularities were found in the vaccine batch from where the six doses originated, Kulkanya said.

Doses from the same batch were distributed to other provinces and more than 300,000 people might have already received the shots, she added.

"The panel agreed we can continue to use this vaccine batch because the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the temporary effects, which can occur," Kulkanya said.

No such effects have previously been reported in Thailand or other countries, she added.

The incidents would not change Thailand's plan to begin mass inoculations from June, said Taweesap Siraprapasiri of the Department of Disease Control.

"The side effects can be monitored and they are not beyond what we can expect," said Taweesap.

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Just take half an Aspirin a day, the week before and the week after. That should stop clots or strokes.
Can't guarantee the absence of a stroke, just stir clear of the missus and you'll be right

[russellsimpson]

^Interesting that all affected individuals were women and all were from the same relatively small geographic area. That's well beyond the pervue of a chance occurrence?.

[Klondyke]

A fair bit of negative press associated with Sinovac, not nearly on the same level as AZ...

Did you compare with negative press of others? (But you will not find it in MSM...)

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Anyway, what would the difference be between a halfway detention centre and an all-the-way detention centre?

It would be beyond idiotic for one of those transitioning prisoners to try and escape, and jeopardize their whole live if they are going to be released in a few days anyway.
So the difference being that a halfway center , since it houses low level offenders, who will be released soon anyway and who would not jeopardize that release by escaping, would be low security facilities ,perhaps as suggested, use cheap hotels, and treat them not unlike Thais returning from other countries.

[helge]

Interesting that all affected individuals were women and all were from the same relatively small geographic area. That's well beyond the pervue of a chance occurrence?.

Vaccine probably hasn't been handled properly

Left out in the sun or such

Or an amateur doing the shots directly into a veine

[russellsimpson]

Vaccine probably hasn't been handled properly

It's not beyond the limit of the imagination to envision this scenario.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Drama Queen Alert!

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I am not complaining , just stating that people coming from other countries, even vaccinated people and even Thais, have to quarantine. But prisoned who who are not vaccinated, and have been exposed to covid, can be allowed to enter the general population without some sort of a quarantine. I makes no sense to me.
By the way , the EU just announced that vaccinated Americans can visit wit hour quarantine, but in Thailand we need to do 14 days quarantine. TIT

[HermantheGerman]

Do you have any links stating which countries have a "passport" criteria confirmed and which vaccines have been included?

“The Commission proposes to allow entry to the EU for non-essential reasons not only for all persons coming from countries with a good epidemiological situation but also all people who have received the last recommended dose of an EU-authorised vaccine,” said the EU Commission statement.
The vaccines licensed for use in the EU so far are Pfizer BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson.

https://www.thelocal.it/20210519/eu-...utside-bloc-2/

[HermantheGerman]

Last updated: May 19, 2021, 07:04 GMT

United States

Coronavirus

Cases:

33,774,945

Deaths:

601,330


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United States COVID: 33,774,945 Cases and 601,330 Deaths - Worldometer

EU’s own Hungary and Slovenia are using Russian vaccine

Deaths / 1M pop

Slovenia 2,086
Hungary 3,043

U.S. 1,807

[Seekingasylum]

It would be beyond idiotic for one of those transitioning prisoners to try and escape, and jeopardize their whole live if they are going to be released in a few days anyway.
So the difference being that a halfway center , since it houses low level offenders, who will be released soon anyway and who would not jeopardize that release by escaping, would be low security facilities ,perhaps as suggested, use cheap hotels, and treat them not unlike Thais returning from other countries.

I was not referring to the security issue, I was highlighting the fact there is no fucking difference in corralling prisoners in a closed system or in one which features free association within a communal facility.

Thinking that the Thai will house 50,000 cons in their own hotel room getting free food and board is simply stupid.

Anyway, most would leg it at the first opportunity to go home, to get pissed and to fuck.

You really haven't grasped the reality here, have you.

[OhOh]

Thank you

all persons coming from countries with a good epidemiological situation

Does the EU have a list of such countries?

The vaccines licensed for use in the EU so far are Pfizer BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson.

So just the EU then?

EU’s own Hungary and Slovenia are using Russian vaccine

Deaths / 1M pop

Slovenia 2,086
Hungary 3,043

U.S. 1,807

When did Slovenia and Hungary start using Russian vaccine?

[lom]

When did Slovenia and Hungary start using Russian vaccine?

When their death numbers skyrocketed and Viktor Orbán realized that he would be held responsible for it.
He is one of the two who stalled the EU vaccine procurement , the other one is Poland's Mateusz Morawiecki.

"When the Commission asked for another €750 million on September 4 to finalize deals and add another vaccine from Novavax, several countries balked and called for the Commission to better justify its choices.
Although capitals ultimately agreed to the boost in the end, it took months for them to send their money to Brussels."

[PAG]

[misskit]

Doctors call for better COVID-19 vaccination promotion, warning Australians are 'sitting ducks'

Doctors are calling for a more effective communications strategy to convince people to get COVID-19 vaccines, warning Australians are "sitting ducks" until a much larger portion of the population is protected.


Vice-president of the Australian Medical Association, Chris Moy, said he was worried too many Australians felt safe from the virus to the point where they were not motivated to get their vaccine when they became eligible.

MORE Doctors call for better COVID-19 vaccination promotion, warning Australians are '''sitting ducks''' until they'''re vaccinated - ABC News

[misskit]

Japan raises travel alert on Thailand


BANGKOK (NNT) - The Japanese government is advising all Japanese nationals to avoid travel to Thailand, along with 160 other countries, due to the worsening of the COVID-19 situation in these countries.


Japan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs updated the overseas travel advice and warning about Thailand on Tuesday, changing the category from Level 2 - avoid non-essential travel - to Level 3 - avoid all travel - due to the more widespread transmission of COVID-19.


With this change, Thailand and six other countries now join 153 countries already on Level 3.


Mr Tanee Sangrat, Director General of the Department of Information, and the Spokesman of Thailand’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said today the change means the Japanese government is imposing more stringent border control measures on travelers from Thailand.


According to Japan’s Foreign Ministry, Thailand is now on the list of 159 countries and regions, where non-Japanese nationals will be denied entry if they spend time in any of these countries within 14 days of arriving in Japan.


Mr Tanee said some people will be exempt from the ban, including diplomats, government officials, spouses of Japanese nationals, and children of Japanese nationals. These people must present their negative COVID-19 test result conducted within 72 hours prior to travel, subject to a 14-day quarantine on arrival in Japan, and must refrain from using public transport.


Meanwhile, repatriation flights for Thai nationals in Japan, returning Thai nationals with a transit stop in Japan, and semi-commercial flights between Thailand and Japan will not be affected.

National News Bureau Of Thailand

[russellsimpson]

Thailand is now on the list of 159 countries and regions

So only 40 countries, give or take, free from the new policy.

It would have been interesting to see a list of said countries.

Misskit?

[misskit]

Coronavirus (COVID-19) advisory information | Travel Japan | JNTO

[russellsimpson]

Many thanks Miss Kit.

[OhOh]

China, South Korea, Vietnam, Singapore, Papua New Guinea and Laos all OK it seems.

Nearly added Russia, but they have moved to Europe.

[misskit]

Excess deaths due to pandemic much higher than reported COVID toll: WHO

Up to three times more people have died due to the pandemic than indicated by the officially reported COVID deaths, the World Health Organization said Friday.


So far, more than 3.4 million deaths worldwide have officially been attributed to COVID-19 since the disease first surfaced in China in late 2019.


But according to a global health statistics report from the WHO, far more people have died that would otherwise not have, had it not been for the pandemic, either due to COVID or because they could not get treatment for other ailments.


"Total deaths are at least two to three times higher than officially reported," Samira Asma, the WHO assistant director-general in charge of data, told reporters.


In 2020, the report found there had been at least three million excess deaths due directly or indirectly to COVID-19, while the official number of COVID deaths was 1.8 million at the end of the year.


Asked how many excess deaths could be attributed to the pandemic today, Asma said that "I think safely, about six to eight million deaths could be an estimate, with a cautionary note."


The WHO was working with countries "to understand the true human toll of the pandemic so we can be better prepared for the next emergency," she said.


The discrepancy is due to a number of factors, including lagging reporting on COVID deaths in a number of countries; the fact that many people early on died of COVID without being tested; and also that many were unable to get treatment for other diseases and conditions due to lockdown measures.


"Excess mortality gives us a better picture, because it captures both of these direct and indirect effects," WHO data analyst William Msemburi told reporters.


Excess deaths due to pandemic much higher than reported COVID toll: WHO

[russellsimpson]

A substitute title.

Co-Vid deaths in third world countries at least three times more than reported: WHO

This comes as little surprise.

The discrepancy is due to a number of factors, including lagging reporting on COVID deaths in a number of countries; the fact that many people early on died of COVID without being tested; and also that many were unable to get treatment for other diseases and conditions due to lockdown measures.

Possibly.

[Happy As Larry]

My daughter's school in Korat has offered to include any foreign (Western) parents the opportunity to get vaccinated for Covid as part of their staff vaccination programme. We were sent 'urgent' LINE messages and asked to reply immediately on a hotline number.

Any thoughts on this?

I would sign up for the vaccine.

I am now on 2 lists. I live in Buriram so I was obliged to give my details to the local village health volunteers or face sanctions.
I also work in another province and my office has me signed up there as well.
No dates have been given for the vaccination in either province, probably because they have no idea of when they will receive the vaccine doses, nor have I been told which vaccine I will receive again because at this point they are simply gathering numbers and have no idea of what will be received.

I will make my final decision when I am informed of the details.
If I am not on any list I will not be able to make that decision.

Right now I am more concerned about the points raised by Helge - 'how the vaccine is stored' etc than I am the brand.
As Mendip has pointed out it is bloody hot right now in Isaan and storage will be an issue.

[harrybarracuda]

So I got an SMS saying I needed a PCR test to get on my plane tonight and that I should always use their website for the latest information.

Checked the airline website where it clearly states I don't.

Phoned them and was told that I don't.

Checked in today and after check in it says I do.

Checked the website again, and it says I don't.

I booked a nice rooftop restaurant in Bkk last night for a birthday dinner with a friend.

She phoned me and said their website says it apparently doesn't open until 1st June. I showed her the booking. She phoned them and they said they are open.

Two hours before the reservation, they phoned me to say they aren't open until the 1st June, but they are doing food on the 2nd floor with a limited menu. Fortunately Times Square is round the corner and you can still buy booze anywhere, so I told them to fuck off. We ordered in and quaffed champagne in my suite instead.

The world is going mad I tell you.

[Mendip]

^^ I didn't sign up, but am now starting to wonder about it.

My Welsh mate who's son is at the same school did sign up and things have moved fast. He's having the first Sinovac jab this afternoon in Korat.

I'm still fairly comfortable not signing up... I reckon Western vaccines will be available privately for Westerners by July/August and I'm not looking to work until late August anyway. I think that travel to Europe will be a lit easier with a Western vaccine.