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    the europeans are doing everything they can to discredit the az vaccine, which is sold at cost price which is around $3 a shot.

    it presents a threat to the profit hungry pharma companies that are selling their covid vaccines at $30 a shot.

    there have also been blood clot deaths reported in those who have had the pfizer vaccine and the j j vaccine and would you believe it in people who have had no vaccine at all!

    people have also had blood clot deaths after taking a paracetamol or a cup of coffee or a ham sandwich.

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    If the vaccine doesn't give you clots then the Covid will...
    Patients with severe COVID-19 infection appear to be at greater risk of developing blood clots in the veins and arteries. Blood clots can occur deep in the veins of the leg (deep vein thrombosis) and can move to the lungs, causing a pulmonary embolism, which restricts blood flow and oxygen, and can be fatal.
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    And to think, 2021 was to be the year that we forgot 2020, and the world moved on as before.


    Just wait for the 2022 and 2023 strains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    Blood clots can occur deep in the veins of the leg (deep vein thrombosis) and can move to the lungs, causing a pulmonary embolism, which restricts blood flow and oxygen, and can be fatal.
    Those ending up in either of the lungs are usually not lethal and can be removed with a blood thinning medicine.
    The ones traveling all the way up to the brain are the most dangerous ones and they are the ones that occur more often than expected on use of some covid-19 vaccines.
    The banana is big, but its skin is even bigger.

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    Australia threatens its citizens returning from India with jail? What a disgraceful decision by the government.

    Covid: Australians could face jail or fines if they return from India

    Australian citizens returning home from India could face up to five years in jail and fines after the government made the journey temporarily illegal.The health ministry said the ruling had been made "based on the proportion of people in quarantine who have acquired a Covid-19 infection in India".

    Earlier this week, Australia banned all flights from India.

    There are an estimated 9,000 Australians in India, 600 of whom are classed as vulnerable.

    This will be the first time Australians have been criminalised for returning to their country, Australian media report.


    One doctor told ABC that the government's move was disproportionate to the threat posed by those returning from India.


    Covid: Australians could face jail or fines if they return from India - BBC News

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    This will be the first time Australians have been criminalised for returning to their country
    Wow, that is shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    This will be the first time Australians have been criminalised for returning to their country, Australian media report.
    Was it not, that's how they became Australians? LOL

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    Over this past decade or so many countries seem to have had their watershed moments when they descend into stupidity, farce and cruelty.

    America had Trump and his bovine supporters, Britain had Brexit and the UKIP/Tory dross and of course we had Australia when it set up concentration camps for unwanted migrants.

    Th septics have released themselves from their bonds of idiocy but it seems Engerlandia and the truly fucked up Diggers have a way to go.

    If I were an expatriated antipodean wishing to go home but was barred I would track down any DFAT employee I could and cripple the bastard. Certainly, I would bond with like-minded citizens and burn their fucking high commission/consulate/embassy down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    If the vaccine doesn't give you clots then the Covid will...
    Patients with severe COVID-19 infection appear to be at greater risk of developing blood clots in the veins and arteries. Blood clots can occur deep in the veins of the leg (deep vein thrombosis) and can move to the lungs, causing a pulmonary embolism, which restricts blood flow and oxygen, and can be fatal.

    The blood clot possibility might be a lesser concern [for those not vaccinated] than what's been talked about regarding said "long-haul" effects for those who have survived their COVID bout.
    A much much smaller percentage of those who have claimed COVID infection [of varying degree] have suffered with the post infection debilitating reverberations - from extreme fatigue to heart and lung conditions, ongoing joint to brain fog [unable to concentrate], loss of taste/smell to having trouble walking steady, etc, etc...

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    Reading that long-Covid catalogue of symptoms reminds me of my newly post adolescent flirtation with rough cider.

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    India's neighbors on alert for 'double mutant' COVID variant

    Countries in South Asia are watching out for a potentially more infectious coronavirus variant crossing the border from India. COVID-19 case numbers are currently rising in several countries.

    As India's second coronavirus wave surges across the country, neighbors such as Nepal, Bangladesh and Pakistan are also reporting a recent increase in new cases.


    This has prompted authorities in these countries to close borders and restrict travel. However, some of these borders are porous, with many people crossing back and forth every day.

    Scientists are examining whether a new "double mutant" coronavirus variant is driving India's current outbreak.

    The variant, called B.1.617 and described as a "super mutation," was initially detected in India and has now been found in at least 17 countries, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

    The WHO has said preliminary modeling based on genetic sequencing showed that B.1.617 could be more transmissible.

    "This virus respects no national borders and needs no passport. The double mutant shows that it is more infectious than other circulating variants in India, suggesting potential increased transmissibility," T Jacob John, an Indian virologist, told DW.


    Nepal COVID cases rise

    Nepal, with a population of over 24 million people, shares a border with five northern Indian states: Uttarakhand, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, West Bengal and Sikkim.

    In February, Nepal's COVID infection rate was hovering around a manageable 150 to 200 new cases daily.

    Over the past two weeks, Nepal has been reporting thousands of new COVID cases every day, which coincides with India's current surge.

    "It is definitely scary, and we are a small country. Right now, we are seeing almost 4,000 to 5,000 cases across the country, and many of the cases are in the Lumbini province [which shares a border with India]," Ranjeet Baral, a Nepali physician, told DW from Kathmandu.

    An estimated 6 million Nepali people live and work in India, and, given the porous nature of the borders, people cross frequently.

    The border was closed for some time during India's lockdown last year, but it has since been reopened.

    Physicians in Nepal say that, though mortality rates have been relatively low so far, COVID-19 infection rates have been high among youth, who have a higher chance of spreading the virus.

    "Our health infrastructure has been stretched, and we are running short on beds. Epidemiologists have detected the Indian variant and we could be facing a potential crisis," Baral said.


    Bangladesh closes borders, Pakistan on alert

    Similarly, sparks from India's pandemic wildfire seem to have landed in Bangladesh to the east. Authorities there have restricted the movement of people by shutting down borders for two weeks.

    Bangladesh's National Technical Advisory Committee on COVID-19 also recommended that the borders not reopen until the situation in India improves.

    The committee emphasized that the government should take strict measures to guard against the "Indian variant."

    "The higher authorities have decided to close the borders for two weeks. The land routes with India will be shut from April 26," Bangladesh's home minister, Asaduzzamman Khan Kamal, recently told reporters in Dhaka.

    From March 15, when COVID-19 infections in Bangladesh began an upward trend, to April 28, new cases in the country jumped to more than 194,446. Currently, Bangladesh's total caseload stands at over 757,000.

    To try to control the current surge, the country is conducting nearly 35,000 tests every day.

    Gautam Menon, a distinguished Indian biologist, told DW that, given the amount of travel between India and its neighbors, it was "only a matter of time" before a more transmissible variant prevalent in India would cross borders.
    "Border closures, such as Bangladesh has done recently, would help in the short term and are advisable," Menon said.

    To the west, cases have also been climbing in Pakistan since early March, coinciding with the outbreak of the second surge in India.

    It is still unknown if the Indian variant has been reported in any of the new infections. Travel from India to Pakistan has been banned since April 19.

    "Viruses will cross borders when people cross borders. I am not surprised that we are seeing a surge in our neighborhood," Shahid Jameel, a virologist, told DW.


    Scientists were 'taken by surprise'

    India's official scientific adviser, K Vijay Raghavan, admitted for the first time that the ferocity of the second wave had taken everyone, including the scientific community, by surprise. He added that the emergence of new variants was certainly a factor.

    "There is evidence for faster transmitting variants contributing to the surge," Raghavan told the Indian Express newspaper in an interview.

    Raghavan added that B.1.617 was associated with the outbreaks in the western Maharashtra state and transmissibility increased after the double mutant variant appeared.

    Epidemiologists are concerned that the spread of the pandemic has created conditions in which SARS-CoV-2 has been able to mutate and develop more virulent, potentially vaccine-resistant variants.

    It is for this reason that a group of more than 200 scientists and medical researchers recently asked Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to release data on the patterns and severity of the COVID-19 infections.

    There are concerns that the government could be withholding information on infection rates that could contribute to knowing more about how the pandemic is evolving.


    India′s neighbors on alert for ′double mutant′ COVID variant | Asia| An in-depth look at news from across the continent | DW | 30.04.2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    India's neighbors on alert for 'double mutant' COVID variant

    Countries in South Asia are watching out for a potentially more infectious coronavirus variant crossing the border from India. COVID-19 case numbers are currently rising in several countries.

    As India's second coronavirus wave surges across the country, neighbors such as Nepal, Bangladesh and Pakistan are also reporting a recent increase in new cases.


    This has prompted authorities in these countries to close borders and restrict travel. However, some of these borders are porous, with many people crossing back and forth every day.

    Scientists are examining whether a new "double mutant" coronavirus variant is driving India's current outbreak.

    The variant, called B.1.617 and described as a "super mutation," was initially detected in India and has now been found in at least 17 countries, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

    The WHO has said preliminary modeling based on genetic sequencing showed that B.1.617 could be more transmissible.

    "This virus respects no national borders and needs no passport. The double mutant shows that it is more infectious than other circulating variants in India, suggesting potential increased transmissibility," T Jacob John, an Indian virologist, told DW.


    Nepal COVID cases rise

    Nepal, with a population of over 24 million people, shares a border with five northern Indian states: Uttarakhand, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, West Bengal and Sikkim.

    In February, Nepal's COVID infection rate was hovering around a manageable 150 to 200 new cases daily.

    Over the past two weeks, Nepal has been reporting thousands of new COVID cases every day, which coincides with India's current surge.

    "It is definitely scary, and we are a small country. Right now, we are seeing almost 4,000 to 5,000 cases across the country, and many of the cases are in the Lumbini province [which shares a border with India]," Ranjeet Baral, a Nepali physician, told DW from Kathmandu.

    An estimated 6 million Nepali people live and work in India, and, given the porous nature of the borders, people cross frequently.

    The border was closed for some time during India's lockdown last year, but it has since been reopened.

    Physicians in Nepal say that, though mortality rates have been relatively low so far, COVID-19 infection rates have been high among youth, who have a higher chance of spreading the virus.

    "Our health infrastructure has been stretched, and we are running short on beds. Epidemiologists have detected the Indian variant and we could be facing a potential crisis," Baral said.


    Bangladesh closes borders, Pakistan on alert

    Similarly, sparks from India's pandemic wildfire seem to have landed in Bangladesh to the east. Authorities there have restricted the movement of people by shutting down borders for two weeks.

    Bangladesh's National Technical Advisory Committee on COVID-19 also recommended that the borders not reopen until the situation in India improves.

    The committee emphasized that the government should take strict measures to guard against the "Indian variant."

    "The higher authorities have decided to close the borders for two weeks. The land routes with India will be shut from April 26," Bangladesh's home minister, Asaduzzamman Khan Kamal, recently told reporters in Dhaka.

    From March 15, when COVID-19 infections in Bangladesh began an upward trend, to April 28, new cases in the country jumped to more than 194,446. Currently, Bangladesh's total caseload stands at over 757,000.

    To try to control the current surge, the country is conducting nearly 35,000 tests every day.

    Gautam Menon, a distinguished Indian biologist, told DW that, given the amount of travel between India and its neighbors, it was "only a matter of time" before a more transmissible variant prevalent in India would cross borders.
    "Border closures, such as Bangladesh has done recently, would help in the short term and are advisable," Menon said.

    To the west, cases have also been climbing in Pakistan since early March, coinciding with the outbreak of the second surge in India.

    It is still unknown if the Indian variant has been reported in any of the new infections. Travel from India to Pakistan has been banned since April 19.

    "Viruses will cross borders when people cross borders. I am not surprised that we are seeing a surge in our neighborhood," Shahid Jameel, a virologist, told DW.


    Scientists were 'taken by surprise'

    India's official scientific adviser, K Vijay Raghavan, admitted for the first time that the ferocity of the second wave had taken everyone, including the scientific community, by surprise. He added that the emergence of new variants was certainly a factor.

    "There is evidence for faster transmitting variants contributing to the surge," Raghavan told the Indian Express newspaper in an interview.

    Raghavan added that B.1.617 was associated with the outbreaks in the western Maharashtra state and transmissibility increased after the double mutant variant appeared.

    Epidemiologists are concerned that the spread of the pandemic has created conditions in which SARS-CoV-2 has been able to mutate and develop more virulent, potentially vaccine-resistant variants.

    It is for this reason that a group of more than 200 scientists and medical researchers recently asked Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to release data on the patterns and severity of the COVID-19 infections.

    There are concerns that the government could be withholding information on infection rates that could contribute to knowing more about how the pandemic is evolving.


    India′s neighbors on alert for ′double mutant′ COVID variant | Asia| An in-depth look at news from across the continent | DW | 30.04.2021
    What is occurring in India is tragic, and the threat of new variants in this huge petri dish are real and troubling.
    The only hope is that those who do not die will develop an immunity, even if it is for a short time, and in conjunction with vaccination, the virus will flame out through herd immunity.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Coronavirus: Received 400 Tons Of Medical Supplies From China In 2 Weeks, Says Centre


    Around 20 more flights are expected to bring supplies from China in the coming days, Centre said

    "New Delhi:

    China supplied nearly 400 tonnes of coronavirus-related medical supplies including RT-PCR test kits, Rapid Antibody Tests, PPE kits and thermometers, said Ministry of External Affairs on Thursday adding that 20 more flights are expected to bring more supplies from China in the coming days.

    "In the past two weeks, around two dozen flights departed for India from five cities in China carrying nearly 400 tonnes of medical supplies, including RT-PCR test kits, Rapid Antibody Tests, PPE kits, thermometers etc," Ministry spokesperson Anurag Srivastava said.

    "Around 20 more flights are expected to bring supplies from China in the coming days, and this is likely to be stepped up considerably in the next few months as our procurement efforts gain momentum," he added.

    With an increase of 1,229 new COVID-19 cases in the last 24 hours, the total number of cases in the country reached 21,700, said the Union Ministry of Health and Family Welfare on Thursday."


    Coronavirus: Received 400 Tons Of Medical Supplies From China In 2 Weeks, Says Centre
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Reading that long-Covid catalogue of symptoms reminds me of my newly post adolescent flirtation with rough cider.
    That would explain a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Received 400 Tons Of Medical Supplies From China In 2 Weeks
    Are they going to get the Chinese to check if it all works too.....what with their legendary quality control and efficacy

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    oh oh
    Coronavirus: Received 400 Tons Of Medical Supplies From China In 2 Weeks, Says Centre
    and how many gallons of bat juice have the murderous bastards already sent them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    To try to control the current surge, the country is conducting nearly 35,000 tests every day.
    35,000 out of 140,000,000. Yes that definitely should do the job alrighty.



    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    It is for this reason that a group of more than 200 scientists and medical researchers recently asked Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to release data on the patterns and severity of the COVID-19 infections.
    And Modi will tell them promptly to go straight to hell.

    The stupidity prevails unhindered.

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    HOW TO REGISTER FOR A VACCINATION IN THAILAND.

    This is the Vaccination information the group admins have collected and validated, as of May 1, 2021.

    It is certain that things will change so we will do our best to update, so watch carefully for any changes.


    1) How Can I Register for a Vaccination?
    a) Mor Phrom V.2 app. At this time it appears it’s only valid for Only Thai people or Expats with a Thai ID number shown on their Pink Card
    i) Launch the Line App
    ii) Click the Home button on the bottom line
    iii) Click the Person+ icon in the upper right
    iv) Click the QR code icon on the top line
    v) Scan this barcode:
    vi) Click the Person+Add icon
    vii) Go back to Home
    viii) Click on the Mor Prom line:
    ix) Scroll down to find:
    x) Click the green button
    xi) Scroll down a long, long way and click green button to approve the user agreement for the Mor Prom service.

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    xii) Click the green button to approve data collection of your personal information
    xiii) Click the green button to approve understanding of the vaccination statement
    xiv) Fill in the form, on separate lines: First Name, Surname, National Identification Number (Top Line of Pink Card), Second National Identification
    Number (Number in white box on the back of the Pink Card), Birth Date, then click the green button
    xv) Select which group you fall into
    (1) Medical Personnel
    (2) Frontline personnel involved in the control and prevention of COVID 19
    (3) Seniors 60 years and over
    (4) People with 7 underlying diseases
    (5) General public

    xvi) Enter information into the long form, which is mostly in Thai.

    (1) Pull down for salutation
    (2) Confirm first name and surname
    (3) Confirm Thai ID number
    (4) Confirm birthdate
    (5) Phone number
    (6) Gender
    (7) Street address
    (8) Pull down for province
    (9) Pull down for town
    (10) Pull down for which hospital you prefer
    (11) Click the green button
    xvii) Final page is the confirmation of registration.

    (1) If you are in the First Group you may get a screen to set up an appointment date. If anyone is in the First Group and gets an appointment, please let us know in the comments how this works.

    (2) If you are in the Second Group, you will be contacted later when vaccinations open up
    b) At your local hospital
    c) At your local health office
    d) At your local private hospital, if offered
    e) At your local private clinic, if offered.

    2) Who can register as of May 1, 2021 - “First Group”?
    a) Over 60 years old
    b) Chronic diseases including severe respiratory syndrome, heart and coronary
    diseases, kidney diseases, cerebrovascular diseases, diabetes, cancer patients
    under treatment, and obese patients weighing over 100kg, or having a body mass index exceeding 35
    3) Who can register on July 1, 2021 - “Second Group”?
    a) General public 18-59 years old
    b) Expats ?

    4) Where can you get vaccinated?
    a) Government hospital
    b) Health office
    c) Government pop-up vaccination center
    d) Private hospital, if they are able to source vaccines
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    e) Private clinic, if they are able to source vaccines
    5) When will vaccinations for the general public start?
    a) First group vaccinations are scheduled to start June 7
    b) Second group vaccinations are scheduled to start sometime in August
    6) Which vaccines will be available? Additional vaccines may be available by the time you
    can get your shot. There will be no choice of which one you get
    a) Sinovac
    b) AstraZeneca

    7) What is the cost?
    a) Free for Thai people
    b) Expats, depending on where you get vaccinated:
    i) Free
    ii) For a service charge
    iii) For vaccine cost and service charge
    Please put any comments, questions or clarifications in the comments below. Please *ONLY*
    provide verified information. Thank you.
    well that looks easy enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strigils View Post
    what with their legendary quality control and efficacy
    Nah that's all shiped to ameristan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    how many gallons of bat juice
    Fort Detrick has stopped making that, they're concentrating on a handy pill. No expensive -30 Celsius freezers required.

    ‘Game-changer’: Pfizer developing pill to treat Covid-19, may hit market by end of 2021

    1 May, 2021 17:24

    "Pfizer announced this week that, if development of its pill to treat Covid-19 infection continues at the current pace, and if regulatory approval is quick, the medication could be on the market in the US by the end of 2021.
    Pfizer launched an early trial in March of the oral antiviral which tackles Sars-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes Covid-19, by limiting the availability of the enzyme protease which the virus needs to replicate.
    “If all goes well, and we implement the same speed that we are, and if regulators do the same, and they are, I hope that (it will be available) by the end of the year,” Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said."

    ‘Game-changer’: Pfizer developing pill to treat Covid-19, may hit market by end of 2021 — RT World News
    Pfizer Initiates Phase 1 Study of Novel Oral Antiviral Therapeutic Agent Against SARS-CoV-2 | pfpfizeruscom

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    First batch of Russia's Sputnik V Covid-19 jabs delivered to India as country expands its vaccine drive to entire adult population

    1 May, 2021 13:06 / Updated 7 hours ago


    "India has received its first batch of the Russian-made Sputnik V jab. Heavily hit by a new wave of Covid-19 infections, the country has expanded its vaccination drive in a bid to inoculate its entire adult population.

    An aircraft carrying the vaccines touched down in the southern Indian city of Hyderabad on Saturday.

    “First batch of Sputnik V vaccine arrives in Hyderabad, India! That's the same day the country starts mass COVID vaccination drive covering its entire adult population. Let's jointly defeat this pandemic. Together we are stronger,” a statement posted to Sputnik V’s official Twitter account reads.

    According to India's Foreign Ministry, the first shipment contained some 150,000 Sputnik V doses. Earlier this week, India’s envoy to Russia, Bala Venkatesh Varma, said the country was expected to receive between 150,000-200,000 doses in early May. By the end of the month, around 3 million doses are set to be delivered, the diplomat added."

    First batch of Russia's Sputnik V Covid-19 jabs delivered to India as country expands its vaccine drive to entire adult population — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

    The LORD
    has delivered some desperately needed product, to a county with which is has had a continuous strong strategic, military, economic and diplomatic relationship since 1947.

    The COVID-2019 Thread-1-jpg


    Whilst an alleged "exceptional" country's "elected" lawmakers, continue to dither in debate over their announced but tenuous, promise.





    It’s citizens, flag, leader and government are as one voice.

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    Australia donates 68 million baht to Thailand to support vaccinations

    Yesterday, April 30th, 2021, the Australian Embassy announced that Australia had given Thailand 68 million baht (About 2.8 million USD) to support Thailand’s vaccine program and to help Thailand vaccinate the country faster.


    According to the Australian Embassy, this was to overall support the Australian government’s plans to provide widespread vaccine access and better global security, specifically pointing to Thailand as a global hub in Southeast Asia and the importance of Thailand being able to safely reopen Bangkok and the country for travel. The announcement was made on the Australian Embassy’s Thai Facebook page.


    The reaction online, however, notes TPN media, was mixed. Many Australian citizens commented that they were not happy that the large donation of financial aid was taking place while they were unable to get vaccinated, pointing to the fact that currently there was no plan to vaccinate Australian ex-pats in Thailand. Some stated that they believed the money could be better spent to ensure the health and safety of Australian ex-pats. Foreigners currently cannot register for a Thai vaccine unless they are a Thai citizen or have a “Pink Card” which the vast majority of ex-pats do not have. Thai authorities say foreigners will eventually be allowed to get a vaccine, but have not given a timeline or more details.

    The money, according to the Australian Embassy, will primarily be used for what was called “technical assistance” with the rollout of the vaccines, without giving specific information.

    Australia donates 68 million baht to Thailand to support vaccinations - The Pattaya News

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    Many Australian citizens commented that they were not happy that the large donation of financial aid was taking place while they were unable to get vaccinated, pointing to the fact that currently there was no plan to vaccinate Australian ex-pats in Thailand. Some stated that they believed the money could be better spent to ensure the health and safety of Australian ex-pats. Foreigners currently cannot register for a Thai vaccine unless they are a Thai citizen or have a “Pink Card” which the vast majority of ex-pats do not have.
    all very valid points.

    thailand is a wealthy country, which was slow to implement its own vaccination plan thanks to the bickering between vested interests and it certainly doesn't need foreign aid although they will no doubt grasp willingly.

    how much of it will be used to improve the vaccination programme and how much will end up in the pockets of the authorities is open for discussion.

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    Those fucking retards in Crapberra need to be lined up against a wall and shot! Giving money to any other country that is borrowed money is madness. My guess is the PM Slut Moronson is grand standing once again. That POS needs to grow a third arm and a hand so he can continuedly pat himself on the back for all the shit he comes up with.

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    ...it will soon be time to start shunning those in the US who refuse to be vaccinated: no flights, no public ground transport, no movie theaters, no restaurants (except drive-thrus and home delivery), no cruises, no access to Disney theme parks, no bars, etc without a verifiable document that indicates appropriate, up-to-date shots...there have to be consequences for anti-social behavior that may endanger others. Those governors who refuse to institute such measures may be refused federal health assistance, airlines and buses might refuse to enter those states, etc...law suits? Of course. Brand these folks as child abusers (health endangerment), public menaces or simply bloody-minded luddites...let them feel the shame of social pressure until they bare their arms...
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