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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    This second lockdown is getting ruddy tedious..
    what are you missing out on ?

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    Coronavirus vaccines will be rolled out to people under 50 by January, dependent on the arrival of supplies, the Health Service Journal is reporting.
    It has seen leaked strategic documents which suggest the NHS plan for the vaccine roll out would see the whole adult population beginning to receive it before the end of January 2021.

    NHS 'to start Covid vaccination of under-50s by end of January' - Manchester Evening News

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    PFIZER AND BIONTECH TO SUBMIT EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST TODAY TO THE U.S. FDA FOR COVID-19 VACCINE

    Pfizer and BioNTech to Submit Emergency Use Authorization Request Today to the U.S. FDA for COVID-19 Vaccine | Pfizer

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    That's a shame.

    U.S. Sen. Rick Scott has tested positive for coronavirus and is experiencing “very mild symptoms,” the Florida Republican announced Friday morning.
    Florida’s Rick Scott tests positive for coronavirus

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    Republicans really are fuckwits.

    On the day that new coronavirus cases across the United States hit their highest total since the pandemic began, the Senate Homeland Security Committee held a hearing on an antimalarial drug that has repeatedly been shown to be ineffective at treating covid-19.

    As the country logged 185,424 daily infections Thursday, the committee spent more than two hours revisiting discussion about hydroxychloroquine as a potential covid-19 treatment — a debate that leading health experts say was settled months ago.

    Study after study has shown that the drug touted by President Trump and his allies as a solution to the pandemic is ineffective in protecting patients against the virus. Top health officials in the Trump administration, including Anthony S. Fauci and Deborah Birx, have said clinical trials .

    Committee Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) returned to the issue anyway, calling a panel of witnesses who have publicly supported the drug. He repeatedly criticized the medical community, suggesting at one point that it had “censored” evidence that hydroxychloroquine could work and that federal scientific agencies may have “turned a blind eye” toward the treatment because of Trump’s promotion of it.

    Johnson also wondered aloud whether doctors and medical experts were backing another drug, remdesivir, over hydroxychloroquine because remdesivir sales bring in more money for pharmaceutical companies.

    “I question the fact that because this cocktail costs about $20 and remdesivir costs $3,000, that maybe there’s a little bias, maybe there’s a little conflict, maybe there’s a little agenda,” he said.

    The Food and Drug Administration withdrew its emergency-use authorization for hydroxychloroquine in hospitalized patients in June, concluding that safety risks, including heart problems, outweighed any potential benefits. It has also warned against using the drug in outpatient settings, saying it could cause serious heart rhythm problems.

    The first randomized clinical trial later found that hydroxychloroquine was no more effective than a placebo at treating covid-19 in patients who were not hospitalized.

    Ashish Jha, dean of Brown University School of Public Health, testified in support of those findings that “dozens of studies” failed to find any benefit to hydroxychloroquine. The “clear consensus in the medical and scientific community, based on overwhelming evidence,” is that it does not work, he said.

    “Hydroxychloroquine is a cheap and widely available medicine,” said Jha, who was chosen to testify by ranking Democrat Gary Peters (Mich.). “Had it been effective, it would have made an enormous difference in this pandemic. Unfortunately, it isn’t effective, and it has not made a difference."

    Still, the three witnesses selected by Johnson expressed strong support for using hydroxychloroquine in outpatient settings.

    “This drug is extremely safe, exceedingly safe,” said Harvey Risch, a professor of epidemiology and public health at Yale University. “We know this from common sense. This is a medication that’s been used for 65 years by hundreds of millions of people in tens of billions of doses worldwide.”

    Risch has advocated for the use of hydroxychloroquine at least since May, when he published a paper in support of it. More than two dozen of his colleagues responded in August with a letter expressing concern that Risch, whose research focuses on cancer and not infectious diseases, was not swayed by data refuting his arguments.

    George Fareed, a family medicine specialist in Brawley, Calif., testified that he had effectively treated covid-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine. He had previously written to the Trump administration to urge it to promote the use of the drug within the first five days of a patient’s illness.

    The two other Republican senators who spoke, Mike Enzi (Wyo.) and James Lankford (Okla.), asked about early treatments without directly expressing support for hydroxychloroquine. Most Democrats ignored the topic and used their time to highlight other pandemic issues, including Americans’ willingness to accept a future vaccine and small gatherings driving the spread of the virus.

    But the hearing’s most contentious moments came when the witnesses contradicted each other on the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine, including when Peter McCullough, vice chief of internal medicine at Baylor University Medical Center, testified that Jha’s opposition to the drug was “reckless and dangerous for the nation.” He said Jha was promoting misinformation by expressing concern about the drug’s safety.

    Reflecting on the hearing afterward, Jha said it was “stunning” because it pushed the view that mitigation measures such as wearing masks and maintaining social distance are unimportant because the illness can easily be treated with hydroxychloroquine.

    “I tried to explain that doctors don’t want to kill their patients by withhold[ing] therapy,” he tweeted. “But evidence matters They tried to flip the narrative: that evidence was misinformation And ‘art of medicine’ was what mattered.”

    Jha added: “The hearing was a testament to how politicized science has become."
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    This is criminal. You can only hope they all catch the disease and die from it.

    Fox News is mocking CDC guidance for Thanksgiving gatherings

    Amidst a raging pandemic, the CDC has recommended against traveling for Thanksgiving, while also offering up guidelines for how to safely celebrate the holiday. Meanwhile, prominent commentators and hosts on Fox News have mocked the guidelines offered by health experts.
    Fox News is mocking CDC guidance for Thanksgiving gatherings - CNN Video

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    trump junior has finally passed a test

    next up is cocaine use

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    trump junior has finally passed a test

    next up is cocaine use
    He probably wanted the swab back when they'd finished with it.

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    An interesting article about Smallpox, with some relevance to today.

    ‘It was a total invasion’: the virus that came back from the dead | Science | The Guardian

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    Will the Covid vaccine be safe? What the scientists want to see

    The first experimental coronavirus vaccines could be available by the end of the year, and while that’s welcome news for public health officials, surveys have shown that people’s trust in a Covid-19 vaccine remains on shaky ground.


    A Gallup poll in November found that 58 percent of Americans say they would get a Covid-19 vaccine, up from a low of 50 percent in September. But there are still worries that the speed of developing and testing the vaccines may have compromised their scientific integrity.


    In a White House Task Force briefing Thursday, Dr. Anthony Fauci tried to settle concerns about the safety of the first two vaccines for which early Phase 3 clinical trial results have been reported.


    “The process of the speed did not compromise at all safety nor did it compromise scientific integrity,” Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said. “It was a reflection of the extraordinary scientific advances in these types of vaccines which allow us to do things in months that took us years before.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Will the Covid vaccine be safe? What the scientists want to see

    The first experimental coronavirus vaccines could be available by the end of the year, and while that’s welcome news for public health officials, surveys have shown that people’s trust in a Covid-19 vaccine remains on shaky ground.


    A Gallup poll in November found that 58 percent of Americans say they would get a Covid-19 vaccine, up from a low of 50 percent in September. But there are still worries that the speed of developing and testing the vaccines may have compromised their scientific integrity.


    In a White House Task Force briefing Thursday, Dr. Anthony Fauci tried to settle concerns about the safety of the first two vaccines for which early Phase 3 clinical trial results have been reported.


    “The process of the speed did not compromise at all safety nor did it compromise scientific integrity,” Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said. “It was a reflection of the extraordinary scientific advances in these types of vaccines which allow us to do things in months that took us years before.”

    MORE Will the Covid vaccine be safe? What the scientists want to see

    The biggest problems of course are:

    - Long term side effects
    - Length of immunity it grants

    There is no way they can tell these things yet.

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    Trials for AstraZeneca's coronavirus 'antibody cocktail' are starting in the UK.

    The treatment, aimed at people with a weakened immune system who cannot be vaccinated, could prevent Covid-19 infection for up to 12 months.

    A participant in Manchester will be the first in the world to receive the pharmaceutical company's treatment.


    The clinical trial programme will recruit 5,000 participants in Europe and the United States - including 1,000 people from nine sites in the UK.


    The treatment differs from a vaccine as it introduces antibodies, rather than prompting the body's immune system to make them.


    The aim of the trial is to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of a combination of two long-acting monoclonal antibodies - man-made proteins that act like natural human antibodies in the immune system.

    Sir Mene Pangalos, executive vice president of biopharmaceuticals R&D at AstraZeneca, said the treatment, which can be injected or administered intravenously, is aimed at those who have a weakened immune system and cannot be vaccinated.

    It is also aimed at people who are unlikely to respond to immunisation - which may include hundreds of thousands people in the UK.


    He said: "There is going to be a significant number of people - even in a world where vaccines are highly effective - who will not respond to vaccines, or in fact will not take vaccines.


    "So having monoclonal antibodies as potential therapeutics is also important."


    The UK Government has an in-principle agreement to secure access to one million doses of the antibody combination, dubbed AZD7442, if it is successful in the phase three trials.


    Trials for AstraZeneca's coronavirus 'antibody cocktail' start in the UK - Mirror Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    what are you missing out on ?
    Daylight and warm, dry weather.

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    A tougher three-tiered system of local restrictions will come into force in England when the lockdown ends on 2 December, Downing Street has said.

    Boris Johnson is expected to set out his plan - including details of how families can see different households at Christmas - to MPs on Monday.

    More areas are set to be placed into the higher tiers to keep the virus under control, No 10 said.

    And some tiers will be strengthened to safeguard lockdown progress.

    It is not yet clear exactly how restrictions could change - but it is understood the 10pm curfew on pubs and restaurants will be altered.

    Mr Johnson is expected to say that, while last orders must be called at 10pm, people will get an extra hour to finish their food and drinks.

    Full details of the so-called "Covid winter plan" are expected on Monday, after cabinet discussions on Sunday.

    Some local measures will be the same as those in the previous three tier system, used in England to tackle the spread of coronavirus up until the current lockdown began.

    But the government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) is expected to publish papers on Monday saying that measures in the previous tiers were not strong enough.

    The prime minister will acknowledge that the measures are difficult, while making clear they are not to last longer than is absolutely necessary, and that the need to support the economy is being taken into account.

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    English tier system - at a glance
    Pre-lockdown, there were three tiers of restrictions - medium, high, and very high:

    Medium / Tier 1: Rule of six if meeting indoors or outdoors; pubs and restaurants shut at 10pm
    High / Tier 2: No household mixing indoors; rule of six applies outdoors; pubs and restaurants shut at 10pm
    Very high / Tier 3: No household mixing indoors or in some outdoor spaces; pubs and bars not serving meals are closed
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    It comes after newspaper reports suggested families could be allowed to meet for up to a week over Christmas as part of a UK-wide relaxation of coronavirus rules.

    According to the Daily Telegraph, several families could be allowed to join in one "bubble" and mix between 22 and 28 December.

    The plan will include guidance on how people will be able to celebrate Christmas, but ministers have made clear the festive season will be different to normal - with some restrictions expected to remain in place.

    The government will set out what tier each area will be placed into on Thursday and MPs are expected to be given a vote to approve the new tier system in the days before it comes into force.

    Earlier this month, Mr Johnson promised MPs would have a say on any restrictions imposed after the current lockdown ended.

    What are the current rules where you live?
    England tiers may need strengthening - adviser
    Ministers want 'greater consistency' in tier system
    A No 10 spokeswoman said: "Everyone's efforts during the current national restrictions have helped bring the virus back under control, slowed its spread and eased pressures on the NHS.

    "But the prime minister and his scientific advisers are clear the virus is still present - and without regional restrictions it could quickly run out of control again before vaccines and mass testing have had an effect.

    "That would put in jeopardy the progress the country has made, and once again risk intolerable pressure on the NHS."

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    The PM will be wary of a rebellion from backbench Tory MPs opposed to new restrictions.

    During a vote on the current lockdown earlier this month, 32 Conservatives rebelled to oppose the measures and 17 more, including former Prime Minister Theresa May, abstained.

    A "Covid recovery group" led by former chief whip Mark Harper and ex-Brexit minister Steve Baker has since formed to resist new measures, with suggestions 50 Tories have enlisted.

    It is hoped restrictions can be gradually reduced in the run-up to spring, providing vaccines are approved by regulators, allowing then to start being rolled out next month.

    Downing Street will hope this - combined with an easing of restrictions over Christmas, will lessen the scale of the rebellion.

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    The chancellor will announce a £500m package to support mental health services in England after increased demand for support during the pandemic.

    The Treasury said the majority of the funding will be spent on specialist services for young people, including in schools, and support for NHS workers.

    Mr Sunak is also expected to vow for rapid progress to tackle the backlog of adult mental health referrals.

    He will pledge the new funding in Wednesday's Spending Review.

    In the same speech, the chancellor will unveil his long-term plan for infrastructure investment.

    While the funding only applies to England, the devolved administrations in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland will receive equivalent funding via the Barnett formula, which will allow them to provide similar support.

    Sunak to reform anti-Northern spending bias
    The government estimates that mental ill health costs the economy up to £35bn per year, and hopes the package will address the extra demand for services amid the pandemic.

    Mr Sunak said the pandemic has had "a major impact on mental health because of increased isolation and uncertainty".

    He added: "It is vital we do everything we can to support our mental health services and ensure help is there for people.

    "This funding will make sure those who need help get the right support as quickly as possible so they don't have to suffer in silence."

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    What is the Spending Review?
    A Spending Review is a chance to take a long-term view of the government's spending plans.

    It sets out how much money will be allocated to different government departments and how taxpayers' money will be spent.

    This year the government decided to abandon its long-term Comprehensive Spending Review amid the economic uncertainty of the Covid-19 pandemic and instead next week's review will cover just one financial year.

    It is expected to focus on supporting jobs and public services through the Covid crisis as well as investing in infrastructure to deliver on the government's pledge to "level up" the country.

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    The package will also be spent on extra support for people with severe mental illness, and faster access to psychological support for conditions such as depression and anxiety, the Treasury said.

    Local areas will benefit from £1.2m for a new service to allow them to access real-time suicide data to better target prevention efforts, it added.

    And the Spending Review will recommit to the government's pledge to eradicate outdated mental health dormitories, as well as increased investment in the mental health workforce.

    On Saturday, the government confirmed it would make a major reform to the way it assesses the value for money of big spending projects.

    It plans to remove a longstanding bias that has affected funding for northern England and other regions.

    The changes to what is known as the Treasury's "Green Book" will be unveiled at the Spending Review as part of the government's "levelling up" agenda.

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    Covid-19: UK setting up vaccine centres ready for rollout - Matt Hancock - BBC News
    Looks like there might be some light at the end to the tunnel and reason to think that 2021 might not be a total shitshow. Sidenote: Anti vaxxers seriously boil my piss.

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    FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Moderna will charge governments between $25 and $37 per dose of its COVID-19 vaccine candidate, depending on the amount ordered, Chief Executive Stephane Bancel told German weekly Welt am Sonntag (WamS).

    “Our vaccine therefore costs about the same as a flu shot, which is between $10 and $50,” he was quoted as saying.

    On Monday, an EU official involved in the talks said the European Commission wanted to reach a deal with Moderna for the supply of millions of doses of its vaccine candidate for a price below $25 per dose.

    “Nothing is signed yet, but we’re close to a deal with the EU Commission. We want to deliver to Europe and are in constructive talks,” Bancel told WamS, adding it was just a “matter of days” until a contract would be ready.


    Moderna has said its experimental vaccine is 94.5% effective in preventing COVID-19, based on interim data from a late-stage clinical trial, becoming the second developer to report results that far exceeded expectations after Pfizer and its partner BioNTech.

    Moderna to charge $25-$37 for COVID-19 vaccine: CEO tells paper | Reuters

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    An article from Reuters regarding lockdowns.

    Highlighted are the speakers, their names, positions/titles. It appears Reuters have decided one person is now to be considered, below the fold..

    Biden aide says no U.S.-wide COVID lockdown planned as West Coast states advise against travel


    "President-elect Joe Biden’s top coronavirus adviser said on Friday there were no plans for a wholesale nationwide lockdown to curb the surging COVID-19 pandemic, while three U.S. West Coast states jointly called for a halt in non-essential travel.

    The warning against unnecessary transit came as the daily increase in COVID-19 cases in the United States rose to a record of over 177,000 on Friday, the fourth straight day a new all-time high has been set, according to a Reuters tally of figures from U.S. public health agencies.

    California, Oregon and Washington urged residents to avoid venturing out of state, citing concerns raised by health experts that the coming holiday travel season would accelerate already alarming spikes in COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations.

    Oregon Governor Kate Brown took the additional step of ordering social gatherings limited to no more than six people, effective immediately, a restriction she said she was prepared to enforce.

    “I am not asking you, I am telling you, to stop your social gatherings ... and your house parties and to limit your social interactions to six and under, not more than one household,” Brown said.

    Similarly, New Mexico’s acting health secretary, Billy Jiminez, extended through the end of November a three-week-old ban on gatherings of more than five people who do not live in the same household, along with a directive advising state residents to stay “in their homes for all but the most essential activities and services.”

    That order also requires face coverings be worn in public and mandates the closure of workplaces not defined as “essential businesses,” such as grocery stores, farms, childcare centers, banks, “big-box” retailers, factories and healthcare facilities.

    The dire situation has prompted a growing list of state and local governments to re-impose restrictions they eased during a summertime ebb in COVID-19 outbreaks.

    The governors of six states in the Northeast, the region hit hardest in the early months of the pandemic, plan an emergency meeting this weekend to coordinate responses, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said.

    The country’s patchwork of measures will likely remain intact after Biden is inaugurated on Jan. 20 following his election defeat of Republican President Donald Trump, the head of the Democrat’s coronavirus advisory board said.

    “We’re not in a place where we’re saying shut the whole country down,” Dr. Vivek Murthy, a former U.S. surgeon general, told ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

    “Right now the way we should be thinking about this is more like a series of restrictions that we dial up or down depending on how bad a spread is taking place in a specific region,” he said.

    Murthy’s comments were a sharp rebuttal to Trump’s repeated campaign assertions that Biden was intent on locking down the country if he were elected president.

    Medical experts point to increased indoor gatherings with the onset of winter, along with lapses in social distancing and mask-wearing habits, as the main factors stoking an ominous nationwide surge in coronavirus transmissions and the rate of COVID-19 tests coming back positive.
    The mounting caseload is starting to strain the resources of some hospitals and is on track to push many to the brink, they warn.

    “I’m 100% worried about the holidays,” Dr. Khalilah Gates, a pulmonary specialist at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago, told Reuters on Friday. “We don’t have an endless ability to surge.”

    TROUBLING BENCHMARKS


    Announcing the West Coast travel advisory, California Health and Human Services Secretary Dr. Mark Ghaly said a strict mandate was ruled out over concerns that “COVID fatigue” might spark a backlash, leading people to behave in ways that are less safe.

    The advisory urges individuals entering or returning to the three states to self-quarantine for 14 days, the presumed incubation period for the virus.

    On Thursday, California became only the second state, after Texas earlier this month, to see its tally of confirmed infections top 1 million, with its daily average of new cases jumping nearly 50% in the first week of November.

    “This is the fastest rate of rise we have seen in California,” said Dr. Erica Pan, the state’s acting health officer and chief epidemiologist.

    Illinois reported a record 15,433 new cases on Friday, the most of any state in a 24-hour period, surpassing the previous all-time high of 15,300 set by Florida in July.

    New daily cases rose to 177,620 on Friday, crossing the 100,000-mark for a 10th day, the Reuters tally showed. The country also has averaged over 1,000 deaths a day for the past seven days, a trend last seen in August.

    The daily caseload has more than doubled in 13 states over the past two weeks, most of them in the Midwest, according to the Reuters tally.

    Dr. Robert Kim-Farley, an epidemiology professor
    at the University of California, Los Angeles, attributed some of the spikes to recent Halloween celebrations. He warned of more to come if Americans let their guard down for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

    Chicago has urged residents to stay at home and shun visitors for the next 30 days, including Thanksgiving.

    New York City restaurants were ordered closed to indoor dining at 10 p.m., while Detroit public schools suspended in-person learning starting on Friday.

    Dr. Anthony Fauci, the top U.S. infectious disease expert
    on Trump’s coronavirus task force, said his advice to Biden’s transition team would be the same, continue emphasizing social distancing, avoiding crowds, wearing masks and washing hands.

    “Public health principles don’t change from one month to another or from one administration to another,” he said in an interview."

    Biden aide says no U.S.-wide COVID lockdown planned as West Coast states advise against travel | Reuters
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    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    An article from reuters regarding

    Highlighted are the speakers, their names, positions/titles. It appears Reuters have decided one person is now obsolete.
    Biden aide says no U.S.-wide COVID lockdown planned as West Coast states advise against travel
    Biden is not going to say or do anything controversial until after the Georgia run-offs on 5th Jan at the earliest. And that's all you need to know on that topic.

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    Does this strike anyone as a really fucking dumb idea?

    Hong Kong will give a one-time HK$5,000 (about 20,000 baht) to anyone in the city who tests positive for Covid-19 to encourage people to take tests for the virus, Health Secretary Sophia Chan said.
    Hong Kong to give B20,000 to those testing positive for virus

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    ^^

    I've finished formatting my post now.

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    It took the USA 5 months to get to 2 million cases and now there have been 2 million cases in the last 12 days. Americans are about to learn what exponential growth is.

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    What ever happened to the Thai government meeting that was announced with such fanfare a couple of weeks ago, was supposed to take place this week, and was supposed to reduce the quarantine from 14 days to 10 days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I've finished formatting my post now.
    Have you ever thought about formatting before posting or were you too busy imagining more pedophile jokes?




    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    It took the USA 5 months to get to 2 million cases and now there have been 2 million cases in the last 12 days. Americans are about to learn what exponential growth is.
    Hopefully the new vaccine will place a dampener on that, December 10th release?

    The US is a brilliant example of how selfishness and egotism combined with an ineffective leadership can only lead to disaster, the virus just stepped it up a notch

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