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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    You would have thought that vaccine status of flyers could be added to a biometric passport? It would be a lot less fuss than apps and QR codes
    I'd go for that. Problem is this vaccine may be an annual thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The app makes ones mobile GPS traceable, unless of course one swaps to a local sim cards when abroad.

    Ones passport not so easy to track.

    If you have one of those chinky phones, it's traceable anyway.


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    until people understand this


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    It looks like they have pretty much tracked down all the concert goers here ( this outbreak was caused by someone breaking home quarantine for a concert) and tested them. I am mighty pissed of that I have to work online due to the desire of some human petri dish to attend a concert. It only takes one person to fuck everything up. How sustainable stay at home measures in a developing country such as Mongolia will soon play out, if you make 2USD a day you simply can't stay at home, you have to go out and work. There is an "unofficial" coal mine close to UB, I doubt people who work their on a daily basis for cash will be able to stay home for much more than a week.

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    'Breakthrough finding' reveals why certain Covid-19 patients die


    Research shows Covid-19 patients with life-threatening illness have antibodies that disable key immune system proteins called interferons.

    '''Breakthrough finding''' reveals why certain Covid-19 patients die

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    Elon Musk
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    "Something extremely bogus is going on. Was tested for covid four times today. Two tests came back negative, two came back positive. Same machine, same test, same nurse. Rapid antigen test from BD."

    12:47 PM · Nov 13, 2020

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    See the latest COVID-19 information on Twitter

    You can't fool Elon.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro says his country has designed “a highly effective antiviral” that decimates coronavirus without any side effects.

    "I want to say that Venezuela has developed a medicine that annihilates 100 percent of the coronavirus," Maduro said on Sunday, describing it as a “highly effective antiviral.”

    The drug will be presented to the WHO for certification, he added.

    It was designed by the Venezuelan Institute for Scientific Research (IVIC), which has been working on a cure for the virus for the past six months, he noted, RT reported.

    The medicine is based on a molecule called TR-10, which was isolated and, when pitted against the virus, proved its absolute effectiveness, he said.

    Maduro said the study has already been reviewed by experts and scientists, and will be presented to the World Health Organization (WHO) so that it can certify its findings.


    As he touted the potential breakthrough in COVID-19 therapy, Maduro said Venezuela looks forward “to offering this treatment to the world,” congratulating the IVIC on “this great contribution to humanity.” Mass production of the drug will be facilitated through “international alliances,” he said, without elaborating.

    The newly-developed drug is completely safe, the institute claimed, insisting it “does not affect healthy molecules in the body” and does not result in any side effects.

    The studies were conducted on virus cells isolated from Venezuelan coronavirus patients, Gabriela Jiménez, the minister of science and technology, said.


    The molecule is an ursolic acid derivative, which “has shown 100 percent inhibition of virus replication in vitro (outside of a living organism),” she said, as cited by EFE News Agency.


    Earlier this month, Venezuela became the first Latin American nation to receive Russia’s Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine. Around 2,000 people are expected to be immunized in Venezuela as part of the phase III trial. It was registered in Russia in August, making it the world’s first registered COVID-19 vaccine."


    https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2020/10/26/2376651/venezuelan-scientists-develop-effective-anti-covid-19-medicine-maduro


    Allegedly 100%.

    Take that Pfizer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro says his country has designed “a highly effective antiviral” that decimates coronavirus ....including the brain.

    blaaaaa blaaaaa blaaaaaa I'am a commie BS artist


    100%.


    Take that OhOh.

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    Another dumb fucker (Republican of course).

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) - The Alaska congressman who once ridiculed the seriousness of the novel coronavirus, calling it the “beer virus,” said on Thursday he is now infected with it.

    The announcement by Representative Don Young comes as the state’s governor on Thursday warned that health-care and public-safety systems were at risk of being overwhelmed by the rapid spread of the virus across Alaska.

    Young, the 87-year-old Republican who is Alaska’s sole U.S. House of Representatives member, made the announcement on Twitter.


    “I have tested positive for COVID-19. I am feeling strong, following proper protocols, working from home in Alaska, and ask for privacy at this time,” he said on the Twitter post.


    Young, who was just re-elected to his 25th term and is the longest-serving member of Congress, said in March that COVID-19 concerns were “created primarily by hysteria.”


    “I call it the beer virus. How do you like that?” he said in a March speech at a senior center in Palmer, Alaska, in a mocking reference to Corona beer. “Anyway, it attacks us senior citizens. I’m one of you. I still say we have to as a nation, as a state, to go forth with the everyday activities.”


    Governor Mike Dunleavy on Thursday sent an emergency text to state mobile phones with a link to a video warning about “escalating” COVID-19 cases.


    “No matter what you believe about the virus, the facts are the facts. Hospitalizations and sick health-care workers are reaching untenable levels,” the Republican governor said in a the video.
    Alaska congressman who ridiculed coronavirus now says he has COVID-19 | Reuters

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    Maduro said the study has already been reviewed by experts and scientists
    .... while trying to keep a straight face.

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    Meanwhile, Australia is virtually free of community transmission. I think the only cases are arriving from abroad and are picked up very quickly.

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    I reckon there's a whopping number of false positives in the numbers being published throughout Europe/US, and that these are built into the testing kits. Whether by accident or deliberate is another matter, though there are plausible reasons for the latter.

    According to Yeadon whom I trust a chunk more than I do Bojo or even the great Fauci, there is no standardised kit and most kits being used in Europe/US test not for viruses, not specifically C19, so if you are covid-free but had a virus say 2 years ago, it'll pick up traces of that and falsely add you to the stats as a new infection.

    While infection rates offer a glimpse into trends, western leaders should be looking first at deaths as reported, and then actual deaths due to (not with) the virus; this offers a positive trend, assuming the numbers are accurate, but that applies to every decision throughout this saga. There are many mostly negative variables in the rest of the world, including poverty, incompetence, methodology and data integrity, but looking at recent numbers this is where most covid deaths are occurring.

    Doesn't bother me to wear a mask in the new normal if that pleases someone, no big deal, and I could just as happily stay a metre away from the next person for most daily activities, but even as a member of the so-called 'vulnerable' group I could just as easily manage without either of these civic duties.

    Europe has gone from criminally lax to uber protective, more for control and to show the people that their leaders are still capable of making decisions, however haphazard and contradictory; and too late, they are killing more people than the virus could, by neglecting critical non-virus medical conditions, and socio-economic consequences.

    Imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    more for control and to show the people that their leaders are still capable of making decisions, however haphazard and contradictory; and too late,
    100% agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    a glimpse into trends
    if social distancing is not practised then covid-19 spreads rapidly

    people need to just stay at home as much as possible , which does not seem to be a trend

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    if social distancing is not practised then covid-19 spreads rapidly

    people need to just stay at home as much as possible , which does not seem to be a trend
    So, lockdowns as in Europe don't tend to keep people a) socially distanced, and b) at home?

    Hmm, interesting pov...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    So, lockdowns as in Europe don't tend to keep people a) socially distanced, and b) at home?

    Hmm, interesting pov...
    they obviously didn't

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    184,000 new cases yesterday in the USA. Thanks loser..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    I reckon there's a whopping number of false positives in the numbers being published throughout Europe/US, and that these are built into the testing kits. Whether by accident or deliberate is another matter, though there are plausible reasons for the latter.

    According to Yeadon whom I trust a chunk more than I do Bojo or even the great Fauci, there is no standardised kit and most kits being used in Europe/US test not for viruses, not specifically C19, so if you are covid-free but had a virus say 2 years ago, it'll pick up traces of that and falsely add you to the stats as a new infection.

    While infection rates offer a glimpse into trends, western leaders should be looking first at deaths as reported, and then actual deaths due to (not with) the virus; this offers a positive trend, assuming the numbers are accurate, but that applies to every decision throughout this saga. There are many mostly negative variables in the rest of the world, including poverty, incompetence, methodology and data integrity, but looking at recent numbers this is where most covid deaths are occurring.

    Doesn't bother me to wear a mask in the new normal if that pleases someone, no big deal, and I could just as happily stay a metre away from the next person for most daily activities, but even as a member of the so-called 'vulnerable' group I could just as easily manage without either of these civic duties.

    Europe has gone from criminally lax to uber protective, more for control and to show the people that their leaders are still capable of making decisions, however haphazard and contradictory; and too late, they are killing more people than the virus could, by neglecting critical non-virus medical conditions, and socio-economic consequences.

    Imho.
    Someone's been watching Youtube videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    184,000 new cases yesterday in the USA. Thanks loser..
    ...and some 1,800 deaths/65,000 hospitalizations yesterday.
    The U.S. has averaged more than 100,000 cases daily for ten straight days to date. And averaging 900-950 deaths [daily] in that same ten day stretch.
    Wow!
    Still remains a general societal ignorance/disconnect thing.


    All the while, India has seen a substantial 80% decrease in documented infections and deaths for a month-and-a-half/two month period.....seeming contained to a degree [?]
    The new surges throughout Europe are starting to mirror April in magnitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    ew surges throughout Europe are starting to mirror April in magnitude.
    It's all about the waves...

    1918 Pandemic Influenza: Three Waves | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's all about the waves..
    or people

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Someone's been watching Youtube videos.
    too may tedious fcuktards who think they are special and it is a grievous problem if they have to stay away from others

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Sure. As most of the experts that study these things were expecting - all about the cycling waves.
    It ain't going away......in fact, some have suggested that this particular bug has the ability to mutate [as it has already] into a strain not recognized.
    Perhaps, the possibility of science not being able to keep ahead of it looms.

    The current quality and viability of the soon to be available [first round] vaccines in the coming months will be akin to a canary in a coal mine scenario.
    I'm sure that these brilliant scientific types are working on the "what if..." contingency.

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    New rule here in Mongolia, I can only go 500m from my apartment, at least it is more freedom than the proposed 200m- every cloud and all that.
    People just don't socially distance here at all, it's cultural to an extent but a physical lack of space when half your population moves to the capital city to work is also a factor. I would not be shocked if I caught a dose if it keeps spreading. I few friends got it and it sounds bloody miserable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    in fact, some have suggested that this particular bug has the ability to mutate [as it has already] into a strain not recognized.
    And who has suggested that?

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