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    Several estimates but most state "Most experts think the vaccine will not be widely available until the middle of 2021."

    Coronavirus vaccine: When will we have one? - BBC News

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    As long as travel can be resumed if one can prove vaccination . . .

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    Christ, the UK is completely foked.

    Just under 100,000 infected every day.

    And the epidemic is doubling in size every 9 days.


    Coronavirus: 'Critical stage' with 96,000 a day getting COVID-19 as more stringent action needed, scientists say | UK News | Sky News

    Covid doesn't travel, people travel. I don't get why it's so difficult to simply isolate at home and take simple precautions if really needing to get to a shop etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Covid doesn't travel, people travel. I don't get why it's so difficult to simply isolate at home and take simple precautions if really needing to get to a shop etc.
    Yep, same as gonorrheoa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Christ, the UK is completely foked.

    Just under 100,000 infected every day.
    Sky News Edmond, it is bad but not that bad.
    Reported new daily cases has been around 20.000 since a few days back

    96.000 matches U.S...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Sky News Edmond, it is bad but not that bad.
    Reported new daily cases has been around 20.000 since a few days back

    96.000 matches U.S...
    I think they are extrapolating from their data and including asymptomatic cases.

    The data has not been peer reviewed.

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    I see the UK is nudging up to 50,000 deaths *again*

    How's Bo-Jo going to redefine death from Covid this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Sky News Edmond, it is bad but not that bad.
    Reported new daily cases has been around 20.000 since a few days back

    96.000 matches U.S...
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I think they are extrapolating from their data and including asymptomatic cases.

    The data has not been peer reviewed.
    This is why I got sacked from Bangladesh News Daily. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    This is why I got sacked from Bangladesh News Daily. :/
    Apply for a job at OAN or Fox. They don't seem to let pesky things like facts bother them.

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    This news came out under the radar. Some interesting detail there.

    Moderna is prepping for the global launch of its potential coronavirus vaccine, already taking in $1.1 billion in deposits from governments awaiting the potentially lifesaving drug, the biotech firm said Thursday in its third-quarter earnings report.

    The Cambridge, Massachusetts-based company said it was in ongoing talks with the World Health Organization-backed COVAX initiative on a tiered pricing proposal for its potential vaccine, which it’s tentatively calling mRNA-1273. It already has supply agreements in North America, the Middle East and in other regions of the world.

    “We are actively preparing for the launch of mRNA-1273 and we have signed a number of supply agreements with governments around the world,” Moderna CEO Stephane Bancel said in a press release. “Moderna is committed to the highest data quality standards and rigorous scientific research as we continue to work with regulators to advance mRNA-1273.”

    Shares of Moderna were up more than 3% in midmorning trading.

    Moderna, a front-runner in the Covid-19 vaccine race, said last week it had completed enrollment for its 30,000-participant late-stage trial. As of last week, more than 25,650 participants had received the second of the company’s two-dose Covid-19 vaccine. Moderna said about 37% of the participants were from diverse communities and 42% were at high risk of severe disease.


    Just over half, 53%, of the participants in the trial are male and 47% are female, according to a presentation from the company. The vast majority of participants are over the age of 25, with only 5% in the 18 to-24 age group.

    On a call with investors Thursday, Bancel said the company expects the data and safety monitoring board, which will assess whether the trial is successful, will conduct its first interim analysis in November. The board will not conduct its analysis until after there are 53 cases of Covid-19 diagnosed in Moderna’s phase three trial.

    Moderna’s vaccine, which is being developed with the help of the National Institutes of Health, contains genetic material called messenger RNA, or mRNA, which scientists hope provokes the immune system to fight the virus.
    In August, Moderna said it was charging between $32 and $37 per dose for its vaccine for some customers, under cheaper “pandemic pricing.” The company said it was in discussion for larger volume agreements that will have a lower price.

    Moderna said Thursday its vaccine must be stored at minus 4 degrees Fahrenheit, which will preserve it for up to six months. By comparison, Pfizer’s vaccine requires a storage temperature of minus 94 degrees Fahrenheit.

    Moderna’s vaccine can also be refrigerated at about 36 degrees for up to seven days. It needs to be administered within 12 hours after thawing.

    Separately, the company reported a third-quarter loss of $233.6 million, or 59 cents a share, wider than the loss of 43 cents per share analysts surveyed by Refinitiv were expecting. The company brought in $157.9 million in revenue, higher than the $77.5 million Wall Street was expecting.


    Executives held a call with investors at 8 a.m. ET.
    Coronavirus: Moderna says it is actively preparing for launch of vaccine

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    Trumpanzees: They're as thick as shit.

    A majority of Americans want a national mask mandate in response to the coronavirus pandemic, a new poll has found.

    When asked about enforcing a nation mask mandate in the United States, 58 per cent of Americans agreed that there should be one while 22 per cent disagreed, according to an exclusive Independent poll with JL Partners.

    Additionally, there was a dividing line between supporters of Donald Trump, who thought a mask mandate should be enforced, with 39 per cent agreeing to one compared to 38 per cent who disagreed.
    Coronavirus: Majority of Americans want a national mask mandate as Fauci backs one for the first time | The Independent

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    A coronavirus strain that emerged in Spain in June has spread across Europe and now makes up a large proportion of infections in several countries, researchers said, highlighting the role of travel in the pandemic and the need to track mutations.


    The variant, which has not been found to be inherently more dangerous, was first identified among farm workers in the eastern Spanish regions of Aragon and Catalonia.

    Over the last two months, it has accounted for close to 90% of new infections in Spain, according to the research paper, authored by seven researchers with backing by Swiss and Spanish public-sector science institutions.


    It was posted on a so-called preprint server and is yet to be peer reviewed for publication in a scientific journal.


    The strain has crossed European borders and accounted for 40-70% of new infections in Switzerland, Ireland and the United Kingdom in September, they found.


    The scientists said the strain's characteristic mutation did not give it any apparent edge and its success may be down to the people who caught it first being particularly mobile and sociable. But in some places outside Spain the variant's journey developed a dynamic of its own, indicating it may have a transmission advantage.


    “Its frequency in the UK has continued to increase even after quarantine-free travel was discontinued and the main summer travel period ended. Thus this variant might transmit faster than competing variants,” the researchers wrote.


    Efforts to sequence viral genomes differ widely across Europe, limiting their research, they said.


    “The rapid rise of these variants in Europe highlights the importance of genomic surveillance of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic ... it is imperative to understand whether novel variants impact the severity of the disease.


    ”The World Health Organisation said in July that there was no evidence mutations of the virus had led to more severe disease. It formed a working group to better understand how mutations behave.


    All viruses make only imperfect copies of themselves when they infect a host but the tendency for this random drift varies between classes of viruses. Coronaviruses, which were also behind the 2002–2004 SARS outbreak, are known to be more stable than, for instance, the seasonal flu, which requires a new vaccine every year.


    Spanish coronavirus strain has spread across with the second wave in Europe — MercoPress

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    Anyway, good news, deaths are down to practically zero and apparently therapeutics are available if you do get it.
    (According to Don Jr.)


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    And for a bit of hard core Trump Rally news, Jordan Klepper visits a Trump rally and chats with the wonderful, smart folk supporting Trump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Anyway, good news, deaths are down to practically zero and apparently therapeutics are available if you do get it.
    (According to Don Jr.)


    He needs a fucking good slap that one. Mind you, he has to listen to that whiny skank every night, perhaps it's affecting his brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    that fcuker has performed superbly

    despite the murdoch press and scotty from marketing who masquerades as the prime minister when he is not bothering d0g

    the pandemic has not been politicised by Dan despite the continued attacks from canberra and the local opposition - he has stayed the course and persevered with scientific method which has brought about this milestone

    of course there is a long way to go , but the first difficult steps were taken with the stoicism required and Dan deserves all the plaudits that come his way and he has praised the majority of victorians for doing their part
    That's providing you forget he fucked up the hotel quarantine in the first place which led to the second wave, but you are correct in that at least he fixed his fuck up for whatever that's worth.

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    Looks like the UK might be locking down again, although the source of this is the Daily Mail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Looks like the UK might be locking down again, although the source of this is the Daily Mail
    It's on the BBC website as well now with possible lockdown from Monday. It's about two weeks too late again.

    Germany is going into partial lockdown on Monday as well with bars closing and restaurants able to sell take-away only. Crazy shopping returned yesterday where we are with heavily loaded trolleys seen everywhere.

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    The US had 100,000 cases in a day for the first time yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Christ, the UK is completely foked.

    Just under 100,000 infected every day.

    And the epidemic is doubling in size every 9 days.


    Coronavirus: 'Critical stage' with 96,000 a day getting COVID-19 as more stringent action needed, scientists say | UK News | Sky News

    Covid doesn't travel, people travel. I don't get why it's so difficult to simply isolate at home and take simple precautions if really needing to get to a shop etc.

    It's also been proven that one can still get on with their daily activities by simply following the basic mitigation guidelines/protocol - proper face coverings, distancing, avoiding crowds/groups/gathers, washing hands often, etc...

    It quite obvious as to the reasons that the cases and deaths continue to grow 100 fold every day/week/month in the usual parts of the world.
    One would think that after nine months of these repeated cautionary notes of prevention, a greater percentage of the populations would get it. I guess not.

    Witnessing the same patterns throughout similar cultures - the surges have never ceased or are coming back - U.S., U.K., Europe.
    FFS, even Brazil and India have seen significant drops [holding steady] in their respective numbers in the last month or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Witnessing the same patterns throughout similar cultures - the surges have never ceased or are coming back - U.S., U.K., Europe.
    FFS, even Brazil and India have seen significant drops [holding steady] in their respective numbers in the last month or two.
    I'd give your TV a bash Jeff, I think it's stuck.

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    The government’s Sage experts said that coronavirus infections and hospital admissions were exceeding the "worst case scenario" planning levels earlier this month - four days before Boris Johnson announced the three-tier system of restrictions.
    A document from the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) summarising the Sage meeting of October 8 said incidence and prevalence across the UK continue to increase with data showing “clear increases” in hospital and ICU admissions, particularly in the North of England.
    The paper said projections indicate the number of deaths is “highly likely” to exceed Reasonable Worst Case Scenario (RWCS) planning levels within the next two weeks. (October 22).
    “Well over 100 new deaths per day are projected to occur within two weeks, even if strict new interventions are put in place immediately,” the document said, adding: “In all scenarios the epidemic is still growing.”
    Sage paper shows coronavirus second wave 'exceeding worst case scenario' - Manchester Evening News

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    The end is near......for some.
    The usual suspects.

    Kharma's a bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    The end is near......for some.
    The usual suspects.

    Kharma's a bitch.
    What are you wittering on about Jeff?

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    Another lockdown for a month in the UK,furlough extended for another month also.

    Loads of companies in redundancy consultations with unions mine included.

    It's not stopped effing raining.

    All a bit shit

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    I honestly think that seeing the family back in the UK will only happen in 2022, I think that 2021 won't see any mass roll out of a vaccine as understandably key workers and the vulnerable will need to get it first.

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