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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Surprising numbers here,Flu and Pneumonia overtake Covid in deaths in UK

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...dly-than-covid
    And which stunning pseudoscientific observation does this make you minded to make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Long trial then eh?
    Ongoing 4 stage trials, 'arry.

    Pre-clinical trial complete.
    Phases 1 and 2 clinical trials complete.
    Phase 3 clinical trials started yesterday.

    Sputnik V vaccine to be released for public usage 01/01/2021.

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    Clinical trials


    "Before the start of clinical trials the vaccine had gone through all stages of pre-clinical trials with experiments on different types of animals, including 2 types of primates.

    Phase 1 and 2 clinical trials of the vaccine have been completed on August 1, 2020. All the volunteers are feeling well, no unforeseen or unwanted side effects were observed. The vaccine induced strong antibody and cellular immune response. Not a single participant of the current clinical trials got infected with COVID-19 after being administered with the vaccine. The high efficacy of the vaccine was confirmed by high precision tests for antibodies in the blood serum of volunteers (including an analysis for antibodies that neutralize the coronavirus), as well as the ability of the immune cells of the volunteers to activate in response to the spike S protein of the coronavirus, which indicates the formation of both antibody and cellular immune vaccine response.

    Phase 3 clinical trial involving more than 2,000 people in Russia, a number of Middle Eastern (UAE and Saudi Arabia), and Latin American countries (Brazil and Mexico) will start on August 12. The vaccine has received a registration certificate from the Russian Ministry of Health on August 11 and under emergency rules adopted during the COVID-19 pandemic can be used to vaccinate the population in Russia. Mass production of the vaccine is expected to start in September 2020."

    Clinical Trials

    Russian registration Document:

    "Registration date: 11/08/2020

    Expiration date: 01/01/2021

    Term of introduction into civil defence: 01/01/2021"


    Continues at:

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    There are no published results of a Phase II clinical trial, nor of Phase III which apparently has only just started.

    What's your point, stupid?

    When are you taking your dose? If it's good enough for his daughter (but not him), surely it's good enough for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    which stunning pseudoscientific observation does this make you minded to make?
    UK stopped testing for Covid -19 virus probably.

    "Time to move on", I believe is the political phase utilised by UK governments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    When are you taking your dose?
    As I have already posted here on this thread. When there is a requirement for me to present evidence, not before.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    What's your point
    Politely answering your question.

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    Well, I really do hope it does what is intended with no bad side effects. The world needs it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Well, I really do hope it does what is intended with no bad side effects. The world needs it.
    I would imagine the people that told Putin it will all be OK probably feel even stronger about it.

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    The CDC issues a dire warning for the fall if coronavirus measures are not followed

    (CNN)A top federal health official is issuing a dire warning: Follow recommended coronavirus measures or risk having the worst fall in US public health history.


    Coronavirus has infected more than 5 million people and killed over 166,000 nationwide, according to Johns Hopkins University. On Wednesday alone, there were 55,910 reported new cases and 1,499 deaths -- the highest number of fatalities since May.

    MORE US coronavirus: The CDC issued a dire warning for the fall - CNN

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    The CDC issues a dire warning for the fall if coronavirus measures are not followed
    Wait until Christmas when there are queues of little Karens and Christophers waiting to sit on Santa's lap.

    And the work Christmas parties.



    Surely there's gonna be a point in which even the most die-hard denialist comes to the conclusion that just foking staying at home, and using simple precautionary measures is worth the raping of their liberty and freedom.

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    The Georgia State Fair has been canceled here. It’s usually held in October and attracts half a million people. That will cause some serious economic woes for many.

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    Thousands of holidaymakers have seen their plans thrown into chaos after UK quarantine measures were imposed on France from Saturday.

    The 14-day isolation requirement from 04:00 BST also now applies to people arriving from the Netherlands, Monaco, Malta, Turks and Caicos, and Aruba.

    It comes after France's prime minister acknowledged infection numbers were going "the wrong way".

    France warned it would take "reciprocal measures".

    Clement Beaune, France's secretary of state for European affairs, tweeted that the UK's decision was a matter of "regret" for the French.

    Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said the decision was triggered when the rate of infection in the affected countries exceeded 20 cases per 100,000 people over seven days. The quarantine requirement was previously applied to Spain, another popular destination for UK holidaymakers, at the end of July.

    "We've worked so hard in this country to get our level of infections down, the last thing we want do is to have people returning and bringing the infection with them. It's to protect everybody," Mr Shapps told BBC Breakfast.

    There are about 160,000 British holidaymakers currently in France, he said. The deadline is expected to induce a rush to ports and airports, with thousands of tourists desperate to avoid quarantine.

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    Others who cannot return in time face disruption to work or schooling.

    Katie, a teacher on holiday in the south of France, told the BBC that the 12-hour drive to the Channel crossing means she has no chance to return in time, so she and her children will miss the start of term.

    "We have done everything the government has asked of us for months but I really think they need to treat us all with a little respect and give us time to organise ourselves so that we can continue with our jobs, and our children with their lives," she said.

    Eurotunnel said its Channel Tunnel trains were fully booked until Saturday. Earlier, customers had faced long queues to access the website.

    Mariana Fabricante, who is trying to return from the mountain resort of Tignes with her family, said: "Every time I try to change the ticket, the website is busy. People would be able to make informed decisions if they had been told in advance. It's annoying and frustrating."

    John Keefe, director of public affairs at Getlink, which operates the Channel Tunnel, warned people not to travel to the terminal without a confirmed booking. "There is no space available," he said.

    Prices of some flights to the UK from Paris were more than £450, compared to £66 on Saturday. Many direct flights from the south of France are sold out.

    The cheapest Eurostar tickets were £210, compared with £165 on Saturday.

    But DFDS Ferries said it had added an extra four departures from Calais to help Britons return in time. It said bookings must be made before arriving at port.

    Some holidaymakers said they would accept the quarantine restrictions on their return instead.

    Jonathan Fieldsend from Woodbridge in Suffolk, who is not due to return from France with his family until 18 August, said: "We came fully accepting the risk we were taking of quarantine being introduced. We are not going to be rushing back."

    Airlines UK described the quarantine restrictions as "another devastating blow to the travel industry already reeling from the worst crisis in its history".

    The UK's ambassador to France, Lord Llewellyn, acknowledged that the new quarantine rule would be "unwelcome news" for Britons in the country, but stressed that people could continue with their holidays as long as they follow safety precautions and self-isolate on their return.

    Shadow home secretary Nick Thomas-Symonds said while the Labour party supports "evidence based measures" at the border, it was "vital" that No 10 had a "joined-up strategy" and "urgently" puts in place a specific deal to support the heavily impacted travel sector.

    The MP added: "That the government has still not put in place an effective track, trace and isolate system has made matters far worse and made it more likely that we are reliant on the blunt tool of 14-day quarantine."

    He called on Downing Street to publish science behind its decisions, "and details of any work being done to reduce the time needed to isolate through increased testing and other measures"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    France warned it would take "reciprocal measures".

    FFS it's not about tit for tat you cretinous cheese eating surrender monkeys.

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    Coronavirus: Nearly 300 staff test positive for COVID-19 at factory that makes sandwiches for M&S




    Nearly 300 employees have tested positive for coronavirus at a factory that makes sandwiches for M&S.


    The Greencore factory in Northampton, which employs around 2,100 people, said some of its staff are now self-isolating.




    Greencore said 79 workers had tested positive through NHS tests before the company decided to bring in a private testing program.


    A further 213 positive results came back - taking the total number of positive results to 292.

    Coronavirus: Nearly 300 staff test positive for COVID-19 at factory that makes sandwiches for M&S | UK News | Sky News

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    Let's hope it isn't sandwich spread.


    (sorry)

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    Thai school "new normal"....


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    Poor little girls. That is sad.

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    Jeesus.


    That looks like a 1950's psychologist experiment that's S01E01 on Netflix.

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    School (public) here postponed again to Oct 5. Was supposed to start in June, then moved to Aug 24. Lots of ppl thinking there will be no school for this year.

    DepEd moves opening of classes to October 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    FFS it's not about tit for tat you cretinous cheese eating surrender monkeys.
    Precisely my thoughts when I read the French view UK measures as a 'matter of regret'; the fcukers are so weaned on politics that they cannot see covid measures as anything more than a convenient means to an end.

    So far and almost across the board, all major govs are squirming over the many questions they're not going to like answering later on, though tbf some of the gross to criminal mismanagement can be put down to being six months in and experts still unsure what it is they are dealing with.

    World -n, China plenty!

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    My last school (I am no longer there) is a Thai government secondary school. They were running at 50%, half the students in each class one week and the other half the next week. However, they have just returned to full school for all. I guess that will be standard for government schools now.
    They have no fancy blue-pipe-and-plastic-sheet separators. It is back to 40 in a classroom.

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    Just the latest in a series of reports of contaminated food products, Covid-19 was found in chicken wings exported from Brazil to China, which opens up a whole new can of worms not knowing which side to believe on the origin of the contamination, whether it occurred at source or processing, transportation or storage, are these isolated incidents, or has the virus mutated allowing transmission through food, or more scary has it always been able to do that, either way how much contaminated food has already moved across borders, and much more before we even touch on technical stuff.

    And then we can speculate on how our historically incompetent govs might react to this new threat.

    Chicken wings test positive for Covid-19 in China, but there's no evidence of food transmission, experts say - CNN

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    No pity for those Brits struggling to get back to the UK because they had to cut their holidays short. They knew there's an ongoing pandemic. I consider it as first world problems.

    ++++++

    Meanwhile, in the PI, a recent survey showed that 79% of Filipinos say life has worsened after the pandemic (loss of jobs locally & for OFWs sending $$)

    SWS: 79% of Filipinos say life worsened since pandemic | Inquirer News

    Still re: incomes, over 200k students have transferred to public schools this year (no more $$ for private schools)

    Over 200,000 students transfer from private to public schools amid pandemic

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    ^ I agree, all but essential travel should be on hold for a while longer. People should not be taking holidays abroad yet. September is going to see cases rise throughout Europe as people return. They're not taking the virus seriously enough.

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    Boris is just acting and reacting randomly.

    He has no actual thoughts of his own at this point.

    He's falling back on the 'protect yourself against foreigners' standby.

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