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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Of course I have, but I probably wouldn’t recommend it for the treatment of COVID-19.
    But you'd recommend another drug that hasn't come close to being properly tested.

    I see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Worked a charm in tests on animals, sadly not enough testing was done. Harry was spot on in this case. What does that make you K?
    Can I take this one?

    A fucking retard?

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    There are going to have to be some risks taken to get a vaccine in a reasonable time, but the more testing that can be done, the better.

    There was one drug in use for decades until they worked out that it caused tumours in the daughters of those who took it.

    It's why there is an FDA (or at least why it was set up originally).

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    Bad news from down under.

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has bowed to the realities of his state’s spiralling coronavirus infections and introduced the nation’s toughest lockdown restrictions.
    More important announcements are on the way for Victoria on Monday also, with Mr Andrews saying incoming rules for specific industries will force some businesses to close, and others to slow down operations.
    The state recorded 671 new cases on Sunday, and seven more elderly Victorians have died.
    Six of the fatalities were connected to virus outbreaks in aged-care homes.
    On Sunday, Mr Andrews declared a “state of disaster” will be in place from 6pm and metro areas will be put under stage four lockdown restrictions, including a strict night-time curfew.
    “Absolutely straight up … if we don’t make these changes we are not going to get through this,” he said.
    Victorian students will return to “flexible and remote learning” from Wednesday, with a pupil-free day declared for Tuesday.
    Victoria to face tougher coronavirus lockdowns, including Melbourne curfew

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    But you'd recommend another drug that hasn't come close to being properly tested.

    I see.

    Obviously you don’t see I recommended nothing.

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    260 children and staff at Georgia overnight camp test positive for coronavirus, CDC says


    The camp did not require its more than 360 campers, who ranged in age from 6 to 19, to wear masks.

    260 children and staff at Georgia overnight camp test positive for coronavirus, CDC says

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    Quote Originally Posted by GracelessFawn View Post
    This is a little off topic, but been wondering if wearing a face mask in public all day will lead to health problems in the long run, considering the amount of carbon dioxide being inhaled.
    short answer is , no

    unsure as to where it is thought the CO2 will congregate ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    Obviously you don’t see I recommended nothing.
    Perhaps I misunderstood your post, I assumed you were talking about the Russians fast-tracking their vaccine.


    thats a good result, the quicker we get to the end of this the better.

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    Another fucking retard.
    An Arizona woman who destroyed a mask display at a Target store in a viral video regrets her actions, according to a new interview.

    Speaking to USA Today, Melissa Rein Lively claimed her husband initially filed for divorce and she lost all of her public relations firm’s clients after her infamous anti-mask tirade inside the Scottsdale, Ariz. store.

    In the video, which Rein Lively posted to her own social media accounts, the woman pulls down a mask display after being confronted by employees about not wearing one herself and claims employees are only bothering her because she is blond, white and wearing a $40,000 Rolex watch.
    Woman who destroyed Target mask display has some regrets - New York Daily News

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    260 children and staff at Georgia overnight camp test positive for coronavirus, CDC says


    The camp did not require its more than 360 campers, who ranged in age from 6 to 19, to wear masks.

    260 children and staff at Georgia overnight camp test positive for coronavirus, CDC says
    Wow! That datapoint does not spell good news for the opening of schools! The USA could be heading for 400,000 dead by the end of the year.

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    After initial success, Japan is facing a reality check on the coronavirus. The country garnered global attention after containing the first wave of Covid-19 with what it referred to as the “Japan Model” — limited testing and no lockdown, nor any legal means to force businesses to close. The country’s finance minister even suggested a higher “cultural standard” helped contain the disease.

    But now the island nation is facing a formidable resurgence, with Covid-19 cases hitting records nationwide day after day. Infections first concentrated in the capital have spread to other urban areas, while regions without cases for months have become new hotspots. And the patient demographic — originally younger people less likely to fall seriously ill — is expanding to the elderly, a concern given that Japan is home to the world’s oldest population.

    Experts say that Japan’s focus on the economy may have been its undoing. As other countries in Asia, which experienced the coronavirus earlier than those in the West, wrestle with new flare ups of Covid-19, Japan now risks becoming a warning for what happens when a country moves too fast to normalize — and doesn’t adjust its strategy when the outbreak changes.


    While Japan declared a state of emergency to contain the first wave of the virus, it didn’t compel people to stay home or businesses to shut. That was ended in late May and officials quickly pivoted to a full reopening in an attempt to get the country’s recessionary economy back on track. By June, restaurants and bars were fully open while events like baseball and sumo-wrestling were back on — a stark contrast to other places in the region like Singapore which were re-opening only in cautious phases.

    Japan’s haste may have been premature, say experts.


    “This is the result of the government prioritizing economic activity by getting people to move around again over infection control,” said Yoshihito Niki, a professor of infectious diseases at Showa University’s School of Medicine.


    A panel of experts, praised for showing leadership during the first wave, was dissolved in a political mix-up, while a much-derided campaign to encourage domestic travel began just as infections started to surge.

    Countries throughout the Asia-Pacific are experiencing second waves, many — like Hong Kong, Australia and Vietnam — after being standard bearers for virus containment the first time around. They’re providing a window into the future for places just emerging from their first outbreaks, or continuing to battle through them, like the U.S.

    A number of factors contributed to Japan’s resurgence, according to public health experts. The state of emergency may have been lifted too early, before infections had sufficiently slowed. That also resulted in an ill-defined reopening plan — leaving officials slow to take steps when new infection hotspots first emerged in nightclubs late in June. As cases increased, officials continued to talk down the dangers and insist they were mainly confined to nightlife spots.


    “The government should have had a proper strategy to contain the transmission as promptly as possible,” said Kenji Shibuya, a professor at King’s College London and a former chief of health policy at the World Health Organization. “Both Hong Kong and Australia acted very quickly and are trying to contain it as fast as possible, with expanded testing and aggressive
    social distancing including local lockdowns. Japan is making things worse by just waiting and seeing.”

    Although Japan understood earlier than many Western countries that the virus was more likely to spread through droplets in the air, and warned residents to avoid crowded, unventilated conditions, it wasn’t enough to change individual behavior as the restrictions were lifted. While people have continued to wear masks throughout the pandemic, the current infections have largely occurred in situations where face coverings aren’t typically worn, like group dining and drinking events.

    Unlike New Zealand, Japan never spoke of eliminating the pathogen. Experts tried to encourage a “new way of living” and spoke of an era in which people lived with the virus. But the messaging from central and regional governments was mixed, with local officials in Tokyo warning against travel even as the national government encouraged it, and both sides bickering over who was to blame.


    The national government continues to argue that the situation this time is different. Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga reiterated Friday that another state of emergency isn’t required. The death rate in Japan remains low by almost any standards, and the medical system isn’t over-burdened — a key factor public health officials use to judge success of virus containment. The country has fewer than 100 people in critical care due to Covid-19.


    But treatment won’t bring the current spread to a halt.


    “Hospitals can treat the infected,” said Koji Wada, a public health professor at the International University of Health and Welfare in Tokyo. “But only the government, through public health measures, can reduce the number of infected people.”


    When Shigeru Omi, the head of the current panel of experts advising the government, told officials to delay the domestic tourism push, he was ignored. The “Go To Travel” campaign then turned into a public relations nightmare, as Japan’s rural residents grew angry over the potential of infections being brought to the countryside by city-dwellers. Eventually, Tokyo was excluded from the campaign in a last-minute about-face.


    What impact the tourism campaign had on spreading the virus won’t be known for weeks. Experts are now more concerned over the upcoming traditional Obon holiday period in mid-August, when many young Japanese return home to pay respect to the dead and spend time with often-elderly relatives.

    In a sign that the situation can no longer be ignored, local officials are starting to backtrack on economic re-opening. Osaka has asked people to refrain from dining in groups of five or more. In Tokyo, restaurants, bars and karaoke shops have been asked to shorten operating hours. Governor Yuriko Koike has threatened to declare another state of emergency for the capital. Okinawa has already done so


    “The central government hasn’t shown clear guidance and a clear strategy on what to do about Covid-19, and is pushing the responsibility to the local government,” said Haruka Sakamoto, a public health researcher at the University of Tokyo. “In ordinary times, the government is very centralized, and usually prefectures don’t have strong opinions.”


    Some think the steps don’t go far enough. Haruo Ozaki, the head of the Tokyo Medical Association, called on Thursday for the government to revise legislation so it can legally force businesses to close.


    “This is our last chance to mitigate the spread of infection,” he said.

    Japan acted like coronavirus had gone. Now it’s spread everywhere | World News,The Indian Express

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    ^^ I went out for lunch with a friend yesterday. The restaurant was set up correctly and operating at 1/2 capacity. Was feeling pretty good about going for that rare outing until I saw that. Those kids are surely from all over the state.

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    Fucking stupid chinkies at it again.

    Africa’s rhinos face new poaching threat with traditional Chinese medicine touting horn as coronavirus cure
    Africa’s rhinos face new poaching threat with traditional Chinese medicine touting horn as coronavirus cure | South China Morning Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    260 children and staff at Georgia overnight camp test positive for coronavirus, CDC says


    The camp did not require its more than 360 campers, who ranged in age from 6 to 19, to wear masks.

    260 children and staff at Georgia overnight camp test positive for coronavirus, CDC says
    Must be fake news cause coronavirus is a hoax donchyall know.
    Hope no kids get too sick.
    Hope all the retard adults involved get REALLY sick and some die.
    Fucking retards.
    What's it going to take to wake these retards up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Must be fake news cause coronavirus is a hoax donchyall know.
    Hope no kids get too sick.
    Hope all the retard adults involved get REALLY sick and some die.
    Fucking retards.
    What's it going to take to wake these retards up?
    Strong, intelligent leadership.

    So basically, they're fucked.

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    Thousands protest in Berlin against coronavirus restrictions

    BERLIN (AP) — Thousands protested Germany’s coronavirus restrictions Saturday in a Berlin demonstration marking what organizers called “the end of the pandemic” — a declaration that comes just as authorities are voicing increasing concerns about an uptick in new infections.


    With few masks in sight, a dense crowd marched through downtown Berlin from the Brandenburg Gate.


    Protesters who came from across the country held up homemade signs with slogans like “Corona, false alarm,” “We are being forced to wear a muzzle,” “Natural defense instead of vaccination” and “We are the second wave.”


    MORE Thousands protest in Berlin against coronavirus restrictions

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    QED. He really is just a shitty excuse for a person.

    White House opposes requirement for passengers to wear masks on planes, trains





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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House on Thursday said it opposed language in a bill before Congress that would require airline, train and public transit passengers and workers to wear masks amid the coronavirus pandemic.







    White House opposes requirement for passengers to wear masks on planes, trains - Reuters

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    The COVID-2019 Thread-eebduykwsaerknx-jpg

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    With few masks in sight, a dense crowd marched through downtown Berlin from the Brandenburg Gate.


    Indeed.

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    Double facepalm.

    These retards who don't understand the need for masks should be made to stand on a dark night reciting some of their idiotic babble whilst someone shines a torch at right angles in front of their mouths. Onlookers will then see how much spray comes out when people speak.

    Perhaps film it too.

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    OK – for the bikers – Sturgis is a Go… like a silly little thing such as Covids gonna stop real men, and the few real women that accompany them… in your dreams - lightweights


    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/annual-sturgis-rally-expecting-250k-stirring-virus-concerns/ar-BB17tDiT?li=BBorjTa

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    Annual Sturgis rally expecting 250K, stirring virus concerns
    By STEPHEN GROVES, Associated Press

    SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — Sturgis is on. The message has been broadcast across social media as South Dakota, which has seen an uptick in coronavirus infections in recent weeks, braces to host hundreds of thousands of bikers for the 80th edition of the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.

    More than 250,000 people are expected to rumble through western South Dakota, seeking the freedom of cruising the boundless landscapes in a state that
    has skipped lockdowns. The Aug. 7 to 16 event, which could be the biggest anywhere so far during the pandemic, will offer businesses that depend on the rally a chance to make up for losses caused by the coronavirus.


    Pandemic... Naw

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    No way I'll ever comprehend what the big deal it is for some people to wear a mask. Also will never figure what it is with timid leaders that have to say please and thank you all the time, just issue an emergency order, mention to remind the dumber ones that the virus has already racked up 18m known infections and 700,000 deaths, so wear it or get nicked; that works.

    And if the people are herded by rights brigades to mass defy the order, then round them up and attack where it hurts.

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    ^^ It's a great opportunity for corona.
    With so many people circulating for so long the virus is guaranteed to be present and it'll spread easily in such an environment and then be spread far and wide as people return to their families and communities.
    Corona is really looking forward to it.
    Fucking stupid Americans.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    260 children and staff at Georgia overnight camp test positive for coronavirus, CDC says


    The camp did not require its more than 360 campers, who ranged in age from 6 to 19, to wear masks.
    So with all that's going on, they hold an overnight summer camp for hundreds of children?

    217 kids aged 17 or under then become infected.



    They really are a special type of ......



    The country's like a guidebook for dealing with pandemics, under the chapter of things not to do.

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    The former Soviet republics in Central Asia do not rely on the world 1st vaccine as announced in Moscow recently. They had foreseen some 25 years ago to help themselves differently:

    Press Briefing with CDC on COVID-19 Support in Central Asia
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    DR. DANIEL SINGER, REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR CENTRAL ASIA, CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION (CDC)

    MAY 6, 2020
    Dr. Singer: Good afternoon, everyone. It’s a pleasure to be with you today to be able to talk about the U.S. Government and the CDC’s role in combating COVID-19 and our plans to support the people of Central Asia in this fight. The $6.8 million that we are now providing over the next two years will be used to purchase equipment, provide training, facilitate collaboration on understanding the disease, and support the ministries of health in the region in taking all necessary actions to protect their countries’ citizens until we have conquered this pandemic.

    Our regional office and the CDC offices in each country will be working with each ministry of health to finalize the plans. We expect to purchase millions of dollars of equipment and supplies for the national laboratories to expand their ability to test for COVID-19. In addition, we are prepared to provide equipment and advanced training to monitor the health of people arriving at borders and ports of entry.

    We will build on our longstanding collaboration in emerging infections, HIV surveillance, and laboratory science to be able to support each government in monitoring the spread of COVID-19 and devising more effective response measures.

    CDC opened its first office in Central Asia 25 years ago. Today we have staff in over 50 countries, including Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan. We also offer assistance when requested to the ministry of health in Turkmenistan. Unlike other binational programs, we are not a development or assistance organization. We are a health agency, staffed by epidemiologists, laboratory specialists, and other public health experts. Our purpose is to form partnerships with ministries of health to advance public health science and develop programs that prevent, detect, and respond to disease.
    Press Briefing with CDC on COVID-19 Support in Central Asia - United States Department of State

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