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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I suspect generally the national health organisations. Whether they are free to publish the real numbers and history is debatable.

    Whether the WHO investigatory mission will be free to announce their findings, unhindered, is equally debatable. "It's too early to tell".
    And just to explain it to you again, baldy is taking all the data directly from the states bypassing the CDC.

    Try and keep up.

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    ‘Coronavirus is like your wife Initially you tried to control it, then you realise that you can’t.Then you learn to live with it.’


    Mohammad Mahfud

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    ‘Coronavirus is like your wife Initially you tried to control it, then you realise that you can’t.Then you learn to live with it.’


    Mohammad Mahfud
    Coronavirus is like a serial killer. You may pass one every day and you would never know it. But one day it might just kill your ass stone dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    baldy is taking all the data directly
    Which means it will be regime managed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Which means it will be regime managed.
    ..... which means WHO will not have access to it.

    You're slow, but you'll get there, keep plugging away.

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    Oxford University vaccine is safe and generates an immune response.

    Oxford coronavirus vaccine triggers immune response, trial shows | Coronavirus outbreak | The Guardian

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    ^ and

    Coronavirus: ‘Game changer’ treatment significantly cuts severity of Covid-19 in hospitalised patients

    An inhaled coronavirus treatment has been described as a “game changer” after preliminary clinical trial results showed it significantly reduced the number of hospitalised patients needing intensive care.


    Patients who received the drug, known as SNG001, had a 79 per cent lower risk of developing severe disease and were more than twice as likely to recover from Covid-19 as those on the placebo.

    The treatment, which is inhaled directly into the lungs using a nebuliser, has been developed by the pharmaceutical company Synairgen.

    It uses a protein called interferon beta 1a (IFN-beta) which the body naturally produces when faced with a viral infection.

    The trial was carried out on a double-blind and placebo-controlled basis – meaning neither the researchers nor the 101 patients knew whether they were receiving SNG001, a special formulation of IFN-beta, or a placebo.

    Synairgen has yet to release the full data for the trials, meaning it has not been published in a peer-reviewed journal.

    If the results are confirmed, the treatment will be “a game changer,” according to Tom Wilkinson, professor of respiratory medicine at the University of Southampton and trial chief investigator.

    “The results confirm our belief that interferon beta ... has huge potential as an inhaled drug to be able to restore the lungs’ immune response, enhancing protection, accelerating recovery and countering the impact of Sars-CoV-2 virus,” he said.

    Professor Stephen Holgate, a professor of immunopharmacology at the University of Southampton and co-founder of Synairgen, said the treatment “restores the lungs’ ability to neutralise the virus, or any mutation of the virus or co-infection with another respiratory virus such as influenza or RSV, as could be encountered in the winter if there is a resurgence of Covid-19.”

    In patients with more severe disease at time of admission, SNG001 treatment increased the likelihood of hospital discharge, from six days versus nine days for those receiving placebo.

    The trial also indicated “very significant” reductions in breathlessness among patients who received the treatment.

    Synairgen reported that three people (6 per cent) died after being randomly assigned the placebo, while there were no deaths among those who received the drug.

    Those behind the study believe the treatment could be even more effective at the early stages of infection.

    Richard Marsden, CEO of Synairgen, said the drug “could signal a major breakthrough in the treatment of hospitalised Covid-19 patients.”

    Synairgen will now start presenting its findings to medical regulators as it seeks to acquire approval for the drug – a process which could be accelerated by the British government, having previously said it would fast track promising Covid-19 treatments.

    Previous studies involving asthmatic patients have shown that SNG001 is well tolerated, enhances the lungs’ anti-viral defences and improves lung function during cold or flu infection.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-treatment-synairgen-sng001-trials-a9628101.html

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    Reasons to be cheerful...finally.

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    ^ fingers crossed. The company shares increased 552% in one day, lets hope there's no price gouging.

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    Not seen this before.

    Coronavirus vaccine tracker: how close are we to a vaccine?

    Researchers around the world are racing to develop a vaccine against Covid-19, with more than 140 candidate vaccines now tracked by the World Health Organization (WHO).

    Vaccines normally require years of testing and additional time to produce at scale, but scientists are hoping to develop a coronavirus vaccine within 12 to 18 months.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2020/jul/20/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker-how-close-are-we-to-a-vaccine

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    How long will the vaccine induced immune-response last will be the next question.

    There were reports earlier in the pandemic that it doesn't last and some people were getting reinfected. Maybe the vaccine will end up being something like a condom; used when you go to questionable places for short periods, then discarded when you get back to safety.
    Dear Anti-vaxers: Enjoy your free trial.

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    Plus if it's anything like influenza there will be new variants each year and it will be next to useless until updated.

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    There's too much second guessing and not enough immediate precaution actions.

    Why does the UK have to delay masks in public places like shops? It's been the norm in many places elsewhere since March.

    The US response is just plain madness...

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    They have rights, you know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Why does the UK have to delay masks in public places like shops? It's been the norm in many places elsewhere since March.

    The US response is just plain madness...
    And people say Thais are irrational...

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    The hackers of the COVID vaccine from (yes, we know where from) strike again.

    I placed here yesterday afternoon a link to blog of a US doctor Meryl Nass who knows a thing or two about COVID medicine, it has disappeared, as many of my posts. It seems that I have to learn how to use more offensive language then such post would not disturb ...

    Or did I get it wrong with my poor English? ("should" is not very binding, is it?)

    All posts should include your opinion on the subject, not your opinion of the member posting.
    Robust discussion is allowed, but posters should stay on topic and refrain from personal attacks.

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    ^ It is in the bat shit crazy corona thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke
    I placed here yesterday afternoon a link to blog of a US doctor Meryl Nass who knows a thing or two about COVID medicine, it has disappeared, as many of my posts. It seems that I have to learn how to use more offensive language then such post would not disturb ...
    Her bio says nothing about Covid medicine: Meryl Nass, MD, ABIM

    Maybe it was deleted for being misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post

    Maybe it was deleted for being misleading.
    This thread would be about 15 posts long if that was the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    ^ It is in the bat shit crazy corona thread.
    Meh

    The bat shit crazy coronavirus thread, foil hats required

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    ^ It is in the bat shit crazy corona thread.
    Thanks, my apology...

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    Now if they'd done that earlier, Boris could have saved a fucking fortune.


    Ireland’s Health Service Executive (HSE) announced today that it is donating the code for the COVID Tracker app as Open Source to the not-for-profit Linux Foundation. This will enable jurisdictions worldwide to quickly build and deploy their own contact tracing apps using a wildly successful proven base. The donated app has been named COVID Green.


    NearForm is honoured to be part of such an important initiative and will play a key role as part of the Technical Steering Committee in continuing to manage the development and direction of COVID Green in the Linux Foundation. We will work closely with developers, designers, public health experts, academics and public health authorities in building a vibrant, diverse community to drive the project forward.

    The rapid adoption of the COVID Tracker app in Ireland exceeded all expectations. One million people installed it in the first 36 hours, and the app currently has over 1.3 million installations. That figure represents more than 30% of people in Ireland with compatible devices.
    https://www.nearform.com/blog/irelan...ux-foundation/

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    which means WHO will not have access to it.
    Slightly more than just the WHO. The "free press" around the world will be reduced to relying on regime information which will surely make it "highly likely" or even "almost certain" to be "adjusted" to suit political aims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Why does the UK have to delay masks in public places like shops?
    it's an Asian concept, thus not acceptable. Can't be seen to kneeling to ones superior.

    'Reckless': Privacy rights group lashes out at UK govt after it admits Covid-19 Test and Trace program didn't follow legal rules

    "Ravi Naik, legal director of the new data rights agency AWO, who was instructed to act on behalf of ORG, said that the UK government has now "admitted Test and Trace was deployed unlawfully."
    According to him, the initiative has been illegal ever since its launch on May 28."This is significant. It is a legal requirement to conduct an impact assessment before data processing takes place," he explained."

    "Prime Minister Boris Johnson's administration insisted that there was "no evidence of data being used unlawfully." The DHSC made its admission after ORG threatened to take the government to court unless it agreed to carry out a DPIA immediately."

    'Reckless': Privacy rights group lashes out at UK govt after it admits Covid-19 Test and Trace program didn't follow legal rules — RT UK News

    It appears that some have proven it is "highly likely" or even "almost certain". Illegal collection = illegal usage, "quod erat demonstrandum".
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Plus if it's anything like influenza......
    It is not.

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