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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    and with that everything else in that article becomes bollox when they have to lie about the true death figures.

    July 10 - July 16 451 deaths or 64.4 deaths/day
    Well, take it up with the Daily Telegraph. Maybe your source is 'bollox'? Depending on how many of those people also had 'underlying causes". ie died with Covid, and not from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Returning to ‘highly likely’ tactics: Russia rejects UK’s ‘unsubstantiated’ claims of hacking & election meddling


    "Earlier in the day British Foreign Secretary, Dominic Raab claimed that “it is almost certain that Russian actors sought to interfere in the 2019 General Election through the online amplification of illicitly acquired and leaked Government documents.” "


    Is this state of affairs, "Almost Certain", more or less serious than previous state of, "Highly Probable" utilised in the Dorset Scam?
    Silly little HooHoo doesn't understand how this works.

    The only "almost certain" is whether a state-level bunch of Russian hackers is working for themselves or for Putin.

    If they were trying to nick credit card numbers, maybe the former.

    But since every time they have been caught it's trying to nick politically sensitive data....

    It's Vlad again.

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    See this one the police should have just shot.

    A confrontation inside of a Ralphs grocery store in the Mid-Wilshire section of Los Angeles turned hostile after a man refused to wear a face covering, CBS Los Angeles reports. Witnesses said a store employee told the man he had to wear a face covering or leave the store, as required by Los Angeles County as part of efforts to curtail the spread of the coronavirus.

    That's when he started allegedly started ramming a woman with a shopping cart. A worker then used pepper spray to incapacitate the man and called the police.
    Store worker pepper sprays customer who allegedly got violent after refusing to wear mask - CBS News

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    I wonder how many trumpanzees would get converted quickly if this happens.

    Mind you, would they be able to vote if they're homeless?

    WASHINGTON—Millions of Americans who have missed rent payments due to the coronavirus pandemic could be at risk of being evicted in the coming months unless government measures to protect them are extended, economists and housing experts say.
    Nearly 12 million adults live in households that missed their last rent payment, and 23 million have little or no confidence in their ability to make the next one, according to weekly Census Bureau data.
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    Eviction Looms for Millions of Americans Who Can’t Afford Rent - WSJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Well, take it up with the Daily Telegraph.
    Don't take it as a personal attack on you kmart.

    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Maybe your source is 'bollox'? Depending on how many of those people also had 'underlying causes". ie died with Covid, and not from it.
    Those are the official figures reported on Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK and it is commonly known that UK is under-reporting by not including all cases in care homes.
    The total death figure in UK is 45.000 today but weeks ago when it was 35.000 it was estimated that the real figure should be 50.000.
    May the bridges I burn light my way

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    the infection rate in steep decline
    This line will not age well

    The infection rate will decline dramatically if people wore a mask in public places for 6 weeks

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    Trumpanzees are stupid.

    Utah meeting to discuss kids returning to school:

    The COVID-2019 Thread-utah-antimasks-schools-1-ap-rc

    Utah public hearing on schools dismissed after angry parents pack room without masks - ABC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post

    Professor Dr. Knut Wittkowski,

    Take it up with:
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    The Rockefeller University >> The Rockefeller University releases statement concerning Knut Wittkowski

    The opinions that have been expressed by Knut Wittkowski, discouraging social distancing in order to hasten the development of herd immunity to the novel coronavirus, do not represent the views of The Rockefeller University, its leadership, or its faculty.


    Wittkowski was previously employed by Rockefeller as a biostatistician. He has never held the title of professor at Rockefeller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's Vlad again (stolen from UK)
    As Covid-19 vaccine enters final stage of testing, Russia could be world’s first country with mass immunization program
    16 Jul, 2020

    Phase two of trials for a Russian-made coronavirus vaccine will end on August 3, to be immediately followed by a third, international phase. If successful, it could be the first effective Covid-19 solution to be mass-produced.
    The vaccine, which has been developed by Moscow's Gamalei Institute of Epidemiology in conjunction with the Ministry of Defense, will soon begin clinical trials abroad.

    “The third phase will not only take place in Russia, but also in a number of other countries," Kirill Dmitriev, head of the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), told reporters during an online press conference. “We expect to receive regulatory approval to start using the Russian vaccine in August-September.”

    Dmitriev also explained that Russia plans to produce 30 million doses of the vaccine domestically in 2020, with a potential 170 million more made abroad. The RDIF is currently in negotiations with Saudi Arabia to increase production capacity.

    Speaking to Reuters, the RDIF head called the homegrown Russian product “possibly the first vaccine to be approved in the world.”

    On July 15, Russia's Ministry of Defense announced that, after 28 days of study, no vaccine trialists had experienced “serious adverse side effects, health complaints, complications or adverse reactions.”

    As Covid-19 vaccine enters final stage of testing, Russia could be world’s first country with mass immunization program — RT Russia News

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's Vlad again.
    The COVID-2019 Thread-putin-jpg


    Teflon man strikes again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    This line will not age well

    The infection rate will decline dramatically if people wore a mask in public places for 6 weeks
    Not 'aving a go, but I must be missing something here, wtf are so many people against masks? So wear one, big deal, even if useless it's better than nothing, but stop crowing about your fcuking rights and oppression because someone doesn't want you to catch the fcuking virus, and guess what that's because if you did you're so fcuking thick you'll go out and see how many other idiots you can give it to.

    Fcuk me some people have more rights than basic common sense!

    Most of my family and mates in UK are in awe of Thailand, where an order comes down and people fcuking do it or go to jail, but not all, some are still whining that Thailand is run by a dictators; ok so get rid of them but ffs do it after the C19 has gone otherwise they might be replaced by westernised fcuking snowflakes that are terrified of the people, rant over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Not 'aving a go, but I must be missing something here, wtf are so many people against masks? So wear one, big deal, even if useless it's better than nothing, but stop crowing about your fcuking rights and oppression because someone doesn't want you to catch the fcuking virus, and guess what that's because if you did you're so fcuking thick you'll go out and see how many other idiots you can give it to.

    Fcuk me some people have more rights than basic common sense!

    Most of my family and mates in UK are in awe of Thailand, where an order comes down and people fcuking do it or go to jail, but not all, some are still whining that Thailand is run by a dictators; ok so get rid of them but ffs do it after the C19 has gone otherwise they might be replaced by westernised fcuking snowflakes that are terrified of the people, rant over!
    It's communism don't you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Not 'aving a go, but I must be missing something here, wtf are so many people against masks?
    Let's face it, the people who are genuinely against masks are generally a sandwich or two short of a picnic.

    There is actually a rumour going around whackjob circles that masks are designed to give you the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Let's face it, the people who are genuinely against masks are generally a sandwich or two short of a picnic.

    There is actually a rumour going around whackjob circles that masks are designed to give you the virus.
    And communism. Whackjobs is right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    And communism. Whackjobs is right.
    You're only saying that because 5G waves.

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    NFL Players Association pushes for cancellation of preseason games as coronavirus cases spike

    NFLPA pushes for cancelation of preseason games due to coronavirus

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Okay, Dr Fritz. Maybe all you've done since March is to get wound up and scared by mainstream news.?

    Take it up with:
    I gladly will, you mean like Professor Dr. Hendrick Streeck ?

    Hate to tell you but he is 100% on my site. Been listening to him since the outbreak. You gotta stop sniffing around in those shady kmart websites.
    You even got my fu+*g name mixed. It's Dr. Herman not Fritz

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Trumpanzees are stupid.

    Utah meeting to discuss kids returning to school:

    The COVID-2019 Thread-utah-antimasks-schools-1-ap-rc

    Utah public hearing on schools dismissed after angry parents pack room without masks - ABC News

    I think the lady standing on the right with the blue white dotted dress is missing something

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    I think the lady standing on the right with the blue white dotted dress is missing something
    Yes, a few brain cells.

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    I've said it before, and will say it again.


    At least the average American IQ will be substantially higher come the end of the year.

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    Republicans: They want to kill your kids too.

    The White House is blocking US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield and other officials from the agency from testifying before a House Education and Labor Committee hearing on reopening schools next week, just as the debate over sending children back to classrooms has flared up across the US.

    White House officials informed the committee of its decision in an email, a staff member on the House panel told CNN.
    White House blocks CDC from testifying on reopening schools next week - CNNPolitics

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    devos said "don't let the science stand in the way of opening schools".
    It's amazing to me how people this stupid are in charge of the U.S.

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    Coronavirus: Six types of COVID-19 identified by scientists in 'major' breakthrough for treatment
    Symptoms not widely linked to the virus - like confusion and abdominal pain - are found to be hallmarks of its most severe forms.
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    Saturday 18 July 2020 08:13, UK

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    Researchers say the findings will have 'a profound impact on our understanding of the extent and impact of COVID-19'
    Scientists have identified six distinct types of COVID-19 - each with a specific collection of symptoms - in a breakthrough that could help doctors predict which patients are most at risk.

    The different forms of the disease are believed to determine its severity among those infected - and whether they are likely to need respiratory support in hospital.

    Those behind the study, led by researchers from King's College London, say it will have major implications on treatment decisions during a potential second wave of coronavirus and could "save lives".

    Coronavirus: The infection numbers in real time
    Coronavirus: The infection numbers in real time
    Although a continuous cough, fever and loss of smell are usually highlighted as the three key symptoms of the illness, data gathered from around 1,600 users of the COVID Symptom Study app in the UK and US shows that people can experience a wide range of different effects.

    These can include headaches, muscle pains, fatigue, diarrhoea, confusion, loss of appetite, shortness of breath and more.

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    And researchers concluded that which of the six main cluster of symptoms each infected person suffered tended to indicate how quickly the disease would progress and how ill they were likely to get.

    They presented the six distinct clusters - or "types" of COVID-19 - as follows:

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    'Flu-like' with no fever - Headache, loss of smell, muscle pains, cough, sore throat, chest pain, no fever.
    'Flu-like' with fever - Headache, loss of smell, cough, sore throat, hoarseness, fever, loss of appetite.
    Gastrointestinal - Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, diarrhoea, sore throat, chest pain, no cough.
    Severe level one, fatigue - Headache, loss of smell, cough, fever, hoarseness, chest pain, fatigue.
    Severe level two, confusion - Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, cough, fever, hoarseness, sore throat, chest pain, fatigue, confusion, muscle pain.
    Severe level three, abdominal and respiratory - Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, cough, fever, hoarseness, sore throat, chest pain, fatigue, confusion, muscle pain, shortness of breath, diarrhoea, abdominal pain.
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    They said patients' outcomes varied significantly - from mild flu-like symptoms or a simple rash to severe disease or death.

    The six clusters of symptoms - which emerged at similar points in the disease's progression - were identified by the researchers along with the likely severity that each tended to correspond with.

    And the team behind the study said that while some of the listed symptoms - such as confusion, abdominal pain and shortness of breath - had not been widely linked to COVID-19, they were hallmarks of its most severe forms.

    It was discovered that only 1.5% of people with cluster 1, 4.4% of people with cluster 2 and 3.3% of people with cluster 3 required breathing support.


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    But these figures were 8.6%, 9.9% and 19.8% for clusters 4, 5 and 6 respectively - while nearly half of the patients in cluster 6 ended up in hospital, compared with just 16% of those in cluster 1.

    The researchers said that, in general, people with clusters 4, 5 or 6 tended to be older and frailer, and were more likely to be overweight and have pre-existing conditions such as diabetes or lung disease than those with type 1, 2 or 3.

    Having identified the different clusters, they then combined information about patients' age, sex, BMI and pre-existing conditions with symptoms each gathered over just five days from the onset of the illness.

    This allowed them to devise a model which they say predicts more accurately - and, crucially, earlier - which cluster each patient falls into and how likely they are to require hospital treatment and breathing support.

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    Dr Claire Steves, from King's College London, said: "These findings have important implications for care and monitoring of people who are most vulnerable to severe COVID-19.

    "If you can predict who these people are at day five, you have time to give them support and early interventions such as monitoring blood oxygen and sugar levels, and ensuring they are properly hydrated - simple care that could be given at home, preventing hospitalisations and saving lives."

    And Sebastien Ourselin, professor of healthcare engineering at King's College London and senior author of the study, said the research was having "a profound impact on our understanding of the extent and impact of COVID-19".

    Professor Tim Spector added that the findings showed the importance of people getting into the habit of using the app daily, "helping us to stay ahead of any local hotspots or a second wave of infections".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Coronavirus: Six types of COVID-19 identified by scientists in 'major' breakthrough for treatment


    They presented the six distinct clusters - or "types" of COVID-19 - as follows:



    'Flu-like' with no fever - Headache, loss of smell, muscle pains, cough, sore throat, chest pain, no fever.
    'Flu-like' with fever - Headache, loss of smell, cough, sore throat, hoarseness, fever, loss of appetite.
    Gastrointestinal - Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, diarrhoea, sore throat, chest pain, no cough.
    Severe level one, fatigue - Headache, loss of smell, cough, fever, hoarseness, chest pain, fatigue.
    Severe level two, confusion - Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, cough, fever, hoarseness, sore throat, chest pain, fatigue, confusion, muscle pain.
    Severe level three, abdominal and respiratory - Headache, loss of smell, loss of appetite, cough, fever, hoarseness, sore throat, chest pain, fatigue, confusion, muscle pain, shortness of breath, diarrhoea, abdominal pain.
    A bit difficult to pick out the six types from Cujo post, so have highlighted them.

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    Siriraj - Thailand still at risk of second COVID-19 wave

    BANGKOK (NNT) - The Dean of the Faculty of Medicine at Siriraj Hospital, Prof. Dr. Prasit Watanapa, has expressed his opinion that Thailand is susceptible to a second wave of COVID-19 infection, due to the persisting pandemic internationally, calling on all to work together to safeguard against the disease.


    Prof. Dr. Prasit revealed statistics on COVID-19 globally, indicating the infection is still spreading and adding that many countries are already facing a second wave. While acknowledging that Thailand has not seen a new infection in over 50 days, he asserted that it does not mean the country is free of the disease.


    Because of the recent cases of an Egyptian soldier with the virus traveling through Rayong province, and the Sudanese ambassador’s child, the dean urged stricter measures concerning those entering the nation, especially those coming illegally. Nonetheless, the doctor voiced confidence in the Thai peoples’ discipline and ability to maintain good practices, such as mask wearing, social distancing and registering with the Thai Chana platform.

    National News Bureau Of Thailand

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