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    How the World Will Look After the Coronavirus Pandemic

    The pandemic will change the world forever. We asked 12 leading global thinkers for their predictions.

    Like the fall of the Berlin Wall or the collapse of Lehman Brothers, the coronavirus pandemic is a world-shattering event whose far-ranging consequences we can only begin to imagine today.


    This much is certain: Just as this disease has shattered lives, disrupted markets and exposed the competence (or lack thereof) of governments, it will lead to permanent shifts in political and economic power in ways that will become apparent only later.
    To help us make sense of the ground shifting beneath our feet as this crisis unfolds, Foreign Policy asked 12 leading thinkers from around the world to weigh in with their predictions for the global order after the pandemic.



    The Coronavirus Pandemic Will Change the World Forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Looks like your French Frankenstein didn't get the result and the TD idiots have struck again
    this is still a work in progress, and yes it's still controversial, like everything about COVID-19

    the point again wasn't to blame Trump for making bold statement about solutions for COVID-19 because top scientists are looking and also testing that solution, and even Macron went for it.

    but the usual TD confined idiots went screaming simply because they are butthurt and hate Trump, and have no fucking clue what's going on in the real world

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Herd immunity is a bullshit path anyway . . . and there isn't a vaccine yet, so we can't say whether it's viable or not.

    Today NZ is in an almost normal state again . . . took my daughter to Subway, ice cream . . . still adhering to social distancing rules, but ti's almost business as usual
    A magnificent reflective model on how to subdue the virus beast. Well done NZ! I had heard, as of yesterday, that new Corona infection cases were now holding at zero....
    And among the handful of fraternity countries that have led the way on how deal with it [Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam, China, etc].

    I do have to believe that these examples are keenly reflective of the societies and respective govts, as they adhere to an extended collective for the betterment of the commons.
    Quite remarkable accomplishments for a pre-vaccine period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    How the World Will Look After the Coronavirus Pandemic

    The pandemic will change the world forever. We asked 12 leading global thinkers for their predictions.


    Like the fall of the Berlin Wall or the collapse of Lehman Brothers, the coronavirus pandemic is a world-shattering event whose far-ranging consequences we can only begin to imagine today.


    This much is certain: Just as this disease has shattered lives, disrupted markets and exposed the competence (or lack thereof) of governments, it will lead to permanent shifts in political and economic power in ways that will become apparent only later.
    To help us make sense of the ground shifting beneath our feet as this crisis unfolds, Foreign Policy asked 12 leading thinkers from around the world to weigh in with their predictions for the global order after the pandemic.



    The Coronavirus Pandemic Will Change the World Forever
    Don't tell reacharound. He thinks it'll be back to business as usual.

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    We can already see the change, if one is paying attention.

    Global thinkers [whatever the fuck that is], indeed......
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    IDIOT THINKS RELIGION IS MORE PROTECTIVE THAN A MASK

    Former Coronavirus Skeptic Warns Others To Take Pandemic Seriously After Infection

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    Former Coronavirus Skeptic Warns Others To Take Pandemic Seriously After Infection

    A patient battling COVID-19 in Florida admits that he used to believe the pandemic was being blown out of proportion. But, after he and his wife were hospitalized with serious infections, he’s urging people to take coronavirus seriously.
    “I don’t want to see anybody go through what I went through,” Brian Lee Hitchens, a ride-share driver in Jupiter, Florida, told WPTV-TV in West Palm Beach in an interview from his hospital bed. “This wasn’t some scare tactic that anybody was using. It wasn’t some made-up thing. This is a real virus that you’ve got to take serious.”

    Just last month, Hitchens said he was skeptical about coronavirus and didn’t think the crisis was real.
    “I thought it was maybe the government trying something, and it was kind of like they threw it out there to kinda distract us,” he told the TV station.
    “I’d get up in the morning and pray and trust in God for his protection, and I’d just leave it at that. There were all these masks and gloves. I thought it looks like a hysteria,” he added.

    In posts on his Facebook page in early April, he had claimed, “I do not fear this virus because I know that my God is bigger than this Virus will ever be.”
    However, in a lengthy post to the platform Tuesday, Hitchens dramatically shifted his outlook and urged others to do the same.

    “Many people still think that the Coronavirus is a fake crisis which at one time I did too,” he wrote. “And not that I thought it wasn’t a real virus going around but at one time I felt that it was blown out of proportion and it wasn’t that serious.”

    Just over a month before making that post, Hitchens wrote, he had started to feel unwell, and his wife fell ill soon after. He said that following a stint in home isolation, they began to feel so fatigued and sick that they checked into the Palm Beach Gardens Medical Center. They tested positive for the virus and were admitted to the intensive care unit.

    Hitchens said Tuesday that he’s feeling much better, although still has “some pneumonia in my lungs” and is still COVID-19 positive. He’s holding on to hope for his wife, who is still on a ventilator and has been for several weeks. The two aren’t able to see one another and don’t know when they might be discharged.
    “Please listen to the authorities and heed the advice of the experts,” he implored people in his Facebook post. “Looking back I should have wore a mask in the beginning but I didn’t and perhaps I’m paying the price for it now.”
    He concluded: “If you have to go out please use wisdom and don’t be foolish like I was so the same thing won’t happen to you like it happened to me and my wife.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Trump didn't cause COVID-19, and this what's wrong with the average idiot, they keep being distracted with stupid shit, and blame Paul for Jack mistakes

    China is responsible, not Trump, nothing he could have done would have change a thing
    Then explain why the U.S. has the highest death rate?

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    In the end, real self-sufficiency will be one's best resort.

    Good luck with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Then explain why the U.S. has the highest death rate?
    Why? Everything was clearly explained in the thread:

    https://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner...ml#post4102494 (President Donald Trump)

    Wasn't it from you?

    The one who pointed it out is somebody - as an ex-labour minister - who surely knows a thing or two about the problems why the American people - and their economy - are suffering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    In the end, real self-sufficiency will be one's best resort.

    Good luck with that.
    Why?
    Self sufficiency cannot support the world's population.

    Covid-19 would have to do a much bigger job...

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    Sailors on sidelined carrier get coronavirus for the second time

    The COVID-2019 Thread-6409570-3x2-xlarge-jpg


    Key points:
    • The five sailors had gone through at least two weeks of isolation
    • The US Navy said the sailors had adhered to strict social distancing protocols
    • Officials suggested the occurrence could be related to questions around testing accuracy


    Sailors on sidelined carrier get coronavirus for the second time - ABC News
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    No need for ‘show trials’ of Western journalists, but responsible reporting is key – Lavrov on unproven Covid-19 allegations
    15 May, 2020

    Journalists should be held responsible for the articles they publish, but public “show trials” are not necessary, according to Russian FM Sergey Lavrov’s comments on the conduct of several Western media outlets.

    Earlier three major Western news outlets – Bloomberg, the New York Times and the Financial Times – published headlines that asked why the coronavirus hasn’t killed more Russians, and made unproven allegations that the Russian authorities have been under-reporting the true Covid-19 death toll by as much as 70 percent.

    “I am generally opposed to holding a show trial of journalists, but journalists should be held responsible for what they publish,” the foreign minister told RBK on Friday.

    He added that issues with the accuracy of reported information deserve “special attention” from the regulating authorities and expressed his disdain for those who are using the extreme and devastating situation of a global pandemic to “smear their political opponents.”

    He also mentioned the £200,000 fine levied by the UK media regulator Ofcom on RT London in 2019 for its allegedly biased reporting of the Syrian conflict, and noted that RT has yet to see any concrete evidence that justified the penalty.

    The Russian embassy in the United States has asked the New York Times for a retraction, while the Russian Embassy to the UK has asked the same from the Financial Times. Roskomnadzor, Russia’s media regulator, has launched a formal investigation into the conduct of these publications.

    No need for ‘show trials’ of Western journalists, but responsible reporting is key – Lavrov on unproven Covid-19 allegations — RT World News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Why?
    Good god man, you should know better than to contemplate the 'wisdom' of a post by jeff.

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    that the Russian authorities have been under-reporting the true Covid-19 death toll by as much as 70 percent.


    That's outrageous; the Russian under-reporting seems more likely to be 90%+

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    Covid-19 is massacring US elderly in nursing homes, neglected for years by a power-hungry industry
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    The elderly in US care institutions are dying disproportionately from Covid-19. The pandemic has revealed the extent to which their wellbeing and safety have been sacrificed by an industry that prioritizes profit and influence.

    The US response to the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic has been one of the most chaotic and ineffective in the developed world, leading to a situation where this nation of 327 million people, with the globe’s costliest and arguably most advanced healthcare, accounts for almost a third of the total 4.4 million coronavirus cases and 28 percent of all deaths.

    But the US situation is even more appalling when one looks at who is dying. It turns out that one third of all COVID-19 deaths have been patients or caregivers working in the nation’s 7,700 nursing homes for the care of the elderly and disabled. Of the total of 85,000 COVID-19 deaths in the US as of noon on May 14, more than 28,000 were elderly Americans.

    A bi-partisan failure
    There has been widespread criticism, even from many fellow Republicans especially at the state government level, of the Trump administration’s slow acknowledgement of the seriousness of the coronavirus threat, and its delayed and bungled efforts to provide states, hospitals and nursing homes with adequate ventilators, protective masks and testing kits to deal with the pandemic crisis. But the ongoing and worsening pandemic in the US is really a bi-partisan failure – especially when it comes to the elderly.

    A look at where the most nursing-home deaths have been occurring shows that both Democratic and Republican-run states are doing a terrible job of protecting those in elder-care and convalescent institutions.

    Minnesota, for example, with a Democratic governor and a legislature controlled by Republicans, and West Virginia, a state controlled entirely by Republicans, share the dubious honor of having the highest percentage of Covid-19 deaths to date, at 80 percent each, occurring in their state’s nursing homes. Second place on this grim list goes to Rhode Island, a solidly Democratic state, where 72 percent of coronavirus deaths have occurred in such institutions. In third place is my home state, Pennsylvania, with a Democratic governor and a Republican legislature, where 66 percent of Covid-19 deaths have been in elder-care facilities, followed by solidly Democratic Delaware, with 61 percent of its deaths occurring in nursing homes. Clearly, neither political party can be held solely responsible for this outrageous ongoing massacre of the nation’s elderly and their caregivers.

    I’m personally all too familiar with the problem. My own mother-in-law, a former superintendent of schools for Passaic, one of New Jersey’s largest urban school districts, died on April 26 at age 93 of a Covid-19 infection. She was one of 21 seniors who died of coronavirus at the home, where more than 116 of the 150 patients and close to half of the staff tested have tested positive for the virus. The contagion at the not-for-profit Jewish home in Rockleigh was first identified when the institution, although it had few test kits for the disease, began taking staff members’ temperatures when they arrived for each new shift. We learnt that two caregivers were found to have elevated temperatures one morning in early April and had been administered Covid-19 tests and sent home.

    A day later, when those tests came back positive, there was a scramble to track down which patients and workers they had been in contact with over the prior week. Needless to say, with carriers known to be able to pass on the virus for five days prior to showing symptoms, it was a case of looking for the horse long after it had left the barn. Not surprisingly, within a week of those two workers testing positive, the nursing home had more than 20 patients and a dozen staff members testing positive. The contagion spread like wildfire after that, including to my mother-in-law, who died a few weeks later.

    While the deaths and contagion at that nursing home, amounting to about one in seven patients, are shocking, it is scarcely the worst example of this crisis among the elderly, either in New Jersey or in the US. In one case, thanks to a whistleblower who called police, a nursing home was found to have hidden 17 bodies of elderly Covid-19 patients in a refrigerator truck parked behind the building. And the New Jersey Nursing Home for Veterans in Paramus has seen 74 deaths so far of elderly veterans, out of a total patient population of 314. That number is likely to grow significantly, since 112 of the facility’s remaining patients have reportedly tested positive for the virus.

    Profits & politics before people
    The problem at the federal level has been that, for over a month and a half, as breakouts of the deadly virus were cropping up all over the US, the growing pandemic was downplayed by President Trump and his administration. While the president was calling the disease a “hoax”, or claiming to have prevented it with a ban on Chinese travel to the US, no effort was made by the government to obtain and distribute test kits for the disease, or protective masks for caregivers. To make matters worse, at both the federal and state levels, nursing homes were second priority for a long time when it came to providing limited supplies of badly needed test kits and protective gear, such as N95 masks.

    Even after the virus was detected among caregivers working at my mother-in-law’s facility, for example, nearly three months after the first appearance of the virus in the US, we learnt there were still too few protective masks on hand there to provide to all caregivers, much less to the patients they were treating. This shortage inevitably led to the disease’s rapid spread in the facility. This has been a common story at nursing homes and even hospitals across the US and, unfortunately, continues to be a problem.

    A second factor that goes a long way towards explaining why nursing homes and their elderly patients have loomed so large in the US pandemic’s death count is the influence of money on regulation – or the lack of it – on these institutions. For years, nursing homes, once run largely by churches and religious foundations, began being sold off to aggressive for-profit corporations. These investor-owned firms saw such facilities as cash cows that could be milked for the lucrative patient-care revenues provided by wealthy families, government programs such as Medicare (for the elderly, disabled and especially people just released from hospitals and in need of rehabilitation services), Medicaid (for the poor), and private insurance. Over the decades, these corporations, many traded publicly on the stock market, came to own 70 percent of the nation’s nursing homes. Anxious to maximize profits by paring back the numbers of nurses and other staff, these companies have been among the biggest donors to politicians at both the state and federal level of any sector in the healthcare field.

    According to the campaign-funding monitoring group Follow the Money, nursing homes and long-term-care companies donated a total of almost US$105 million to state-level candidates and party committees between 2001 and 2016 as part of a long-term strategy to gut state regulation. That’s $7 million a year, but the annual amount contributed nearly doubled over that 15-year period. More than half the money came from 38 big contributors, nearly all of them large, for-profit nursing-home chains. At the federal level, the healthcare sector spent $1.7 billion on lobbying between 2006 and 2009, and in 2013–2014, the American Health Care Association (AHCA) representing nursing homes was one of the 16 largest contributors among healthcare campaign funders.

    All that spending, it should be clear, is aimed at reducing the monitoring of the industry by state and federal health, safety and licensing agencies. As one academic report makes clear, there is a direct inverse correlation between the staff-to-patient ratio at nursing homes and their profits. The study reports in its findings: “The profit incentive has been shown to be directly related to low staffing. For-profit nursing homes and for-profit chains operate with lower staffing and more quality deficiencies (violations) compared with nonprofit facilities. Facilities with the highest profit margins have been found to have the poorest quality.”

    Nor is the current pandemic crisis making things better. Just yesterday, it was disclosed that New York State governor, Andrew Cuomo, lately the Democratic voters’ darling for his take-charge display of leadership during New York City’s coronavirus eruption, which has so far infected 192,000 residents and killed nearly 20,000, had slipped into the coming fiscal year’s state budget bill a measure barring patient-care lawsuits against the state’s nursing homes. The special protective measure had been sought by the nursing-home industry, which has made heavy campaign donations to New York lawmakers, including to Gov. Cuomo.

    Some 15 states have already reduced the regulation of nursing homes at the urging of the Trump administration, which claimed the facilities, under pressure from the pandemic, should be freed from having to face periodic safety inspections, staff qualification rules, and so on, while the Covid-19 crisis continues.

    Covid-19 is massacring US elderly in nursing homes, neglected for years by a power-hungry industry — RT Op-ed

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    ^ that issue, the care homes, in US/UK is one which I hope gets attention because it's a terrible industry. Care homes are often extremely expensive, poorly staffed (the staff get low wages for long hours), have poor conditions and treat the elderly patients nowhere near as well as they deserve.

    These places, or the owners (most seem to be privately owned), just take profits out of the businesses while not spending enough money/time/care to look after the elderly who are paying $$$ for services/support that they just aren't getting.

    It's a social problem in the west, of course, but the greed culture is rampant in the "care home" industry, and it be nice to see authorities clamping down on this abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Why?
    Self sufficiency cannot support the world's population.

    Covid-19 would have to do a much bigger job...

    Missing the bigger picture.....or any picture, for that matter.
    Why shouldn't that surprise.

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    The House of Representatives has narrowly approved a $3 trillion bill crafted by Democrats but opposed by Donald Trump that would provide more aid for fighting the coronavirus and stimulating a faltering economy.

    By a vote of 208-199, Democrats won passage of a bill that Republican leaders, who control the Senate, and the president, have vowed to block, despite some Republican support for provisions aimed at helping state and local governments.

    But the measure could trigger a new round of negotiations with congressional Republicans and Mr Trump, who have been talking about the need for new business liability protections in the age of coronavirus or additional tax cuts. Democrats oppose both of those ideas.


    Following the vote, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer announced that May 27-28 would be set aside for voting on some sort of coronavirus-related bill if one is ready by then. He provided no details on the contents of such a bill.


    The 1,800-page relief bill passed on Friday, called the Heroes Act, would extend to all corners of the United States economy. It includes $500 billion in aid to struggling state governments, another round of direct payments to people and families to help stimulate the economy, and hazard pay for healthcare workers and others on the front line of the pandemic.

    House passes $3 trillion coronavirus aid bill opposed by Donald Trump

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    Sweden had the highest daily death toll in the world per capita

    Sverige hade hogst dagligt dodstal i varlden per capita - Omni

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    TOKYO (Kyodo) -- Japan will call for an investigation into the World Health Organization's initial response to the coronavirus pandemic, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Friday.

    "With the European Union, (Japan) will propose that a fair, independent and comprehensive verification be conducted," Abe said on an internet program.

    He said the proposal will be made at WHO's general assembly to begin Monday.


    Foreign Minister Toshimitsu Motegi also said Friday that Japan is joining a chorus of calls for such an investigation and the probe should be conducted by an independent body.


    "This disease has had a devastating impact on the entire world, and information must be shared between countries in a free, transparent and timely manner, lest we risk it spreading even more quickly," Motegi said in a parliamentary session, in reference to COVID-19, the respiratory disease caused by the novel coronavirus.


    "There's a lot of discussion in the international community about precisely where the virus came from and the initial response," he said. "There needs to be a thorough investigation, and it's crucial that this be carried out by an independent body."


    A senior official at the Foreign Ministry, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Japan plans to voice the view at an annual meeting of the WHO's decision-making body to be held next week in a virtual setting.


    The WHO has been accused by the United States and some of its allies of turning a blind eye while China withheld information that could have helped limit the spread of the virus after it was first reported in the city of Wuhan.


    U.S. President Donald Trump has been one of the strongest critics of the WHO, saying it is "a puppet for China," and has suspended funding to the Geneva-based U.N. agency.


    WHO Director General Tedros Ghebreyesus has rejected such accusations, urging countries not to politicize the virus that has now killed some 300,000 people worldwide.


    Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has also called for an investigation into the origin of the new coronavirus, standing his ground even as China announced plans to impose tariffs on Australian barley imports in a move many saw as retaliation.


    While Japan is falling in line with such calls, Motegi also stressed during the meeting of the House of Representatives' Foreign Affairs Committee that any inquiry should take place after the global pandemic subsides.


    He did not specify which independent body would handle the task, saying at a press conference on Friday that was something "for the relevant countries to discuss."

    Japan joins calls for investigation into WHO's virus response - The Mainichi



    New Zealand has joined calls for an independent review into the origin of the coronavirus in China.

    The move comes amid escalating tensions between the two nations after China expressed “strong dissatisfaction” with
    New Zealand backing a role for Taiwan at the World Health Organisation (WHO) last week.


    Coronavirus: New Zealand joins calls for investigation into origin of Covid-19 in China | Stuff.co.nz

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    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is now estimating that over 100,000 people could die from coronavirus in the U.S. by June 1.

    CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield said Friday that a dozen forecasting models of possible COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. predict an “increase in deaths in the coming weeks and a cumulative total exceeding 100,000 by June 1.”

    CDC tracks 12 different forecasting models of possible #COVID19 deaths in the US. As of May 11, all forecast an increase in deaths in the coming weeks and a cumulative total exceeding 100,000 by June 1. See national & state forecasts: https://bit.ly/3cKQIl4 pic.twitter.com/iylBnom5U0
    — Dr. Robert R. Redfield (@CDCDirector) May 15, 2020

    In recent days, several states have reopened nonessential businesses and activities that had previously been shut to prevent the spread of the coronavirus — a move President Donald Trump has been pushing.


    Most of those states are flouting public health experts’ advice by opening before they see coronavirus cases steadily decline.


    Trump has repeatedly revised the expected U.S. death toll upward in his public statements, saying in mid-April that the U.S. could see 50,000 to 60,000 dead, then saying later that month that the country could reach 70,000 dead. Earlier in May, he said total U.S. deaths from the pandemic could reach up to 100,000. All of those figures are lower than the current CDC projections of 100,000 dead by June 1 alone.


    As Trump urged states to reopen earlier this month, an internal Trump administration document obtained by The New York Times predicted a steady increase in coronavirus cases in the coming weeks, with the death toll mounting from about 1,750 deaths a day at that time to 3,000 a day by June.


    The White House did not immediately return a request for comment.

    CDC Now Projects More Than 100,000 Deaths From The Coronavirus By June – 365 NEWS

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    The Brazilian baldy orange cunto doing a good job of emulating his hero's fuck up.

    BRASILIA (Reuters) - Brazil lost its second health minister in a month on Friday after President Jair Bolsonaro demanded wider use of unproven anti-malarial drugs to fight the coronavirus outbreak, adding to turmoil in one of the pandemic’s worst global hotspots.

    Brazilians banged pots from windows and health experts reacted with outrage at the resignation of Nelson Teich, the second doctor to leave the top Health Ministry job as the outbreak explodes. Brazil’s confirmed cases climbed past Germany and France this week, growing at a daily pace second only to the United States.

    Bolsonaro had demanded on Thursday that Teich issue federal guidelines for the early use of hydroxychloroquine to treat coronavirus patients, despite studies that cast doubt on the effectiveness of the malaria drug for COVID-19 and raised concerns it may cause heart problems.


    “I was elected to make decisions. And the decision about chloroquine goes through me,” Bolsonaro told business leaders in a video conference on Thursday, adding that his call to end state orders on social distancing should also be the last word.

    “Just like a commander in battle: He has to decide. Are people going to die? Unfortunately, people are going to die,” he said.
    Brazil loses new health minister as Bolsonaro grabs reins in coronavirus crisis - Reuters

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    Treating COVID-19 patients with the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) had no positive effect and caused other health complications, two new studies showed Friday.

    The anti-inflammatory has been touted by US President Donald Trump among others as a potential "game changer", after initial studies in lab settings showed it may be able to prevent the virus replicating.

    But several subsequent studies -- including one funded by the US government -- appear to have doused hopes that HCQ can help patients hospitalised with COVID-19.


    In the first study released Friday, researchers in France monitored 181 patients hospitalised with pneumonia due to COVID-19 and who needed oxygen.


    Eighty-four were treated with HCQ and 97 were not.


    They found no meaningful difference between the groups for either transfer to intensive care, death within seven days or developing acute respiratory distress syndrome within 10 days.


    "Hydroxychloroquine has received worldwide attention as a potential treatment for COVID-19 because of positive results from small studies," said the authors of the research, published in the BMJ journal.


    "However, the results of this study do not support its use in patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 who require oxygen."


    A second study saw researchers in China split 150 COVID-19 patients in to two groups, one of which received HCQ.


    After four weeks tests revealed similar rates of sustained infection among both groups, though adverse reactions to treatment were more common in the HCQ group.


    Nor did the severity or duration of symptoms differ between each group.


    Hydroxychloroquine and a related compound chloroquine have been used for decades to treat malaria, as well as the autoimmune disorders lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.


    Last month the European Medicines Agency warned that there was no indication HCQ could treat COVID-19 and said some studies had seen serious and sometimes fatal heart problems in patients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Sweden had the highest daily death toll in the world per capita


    Sverige hade hogst dagligt dodstal i varlden per capita - Omni

    Their approach was always poor.

    Denmark, Norway and Finland have half the population and a third or less of the cases - they are now all recovering well as they come out of their limited period lockdowns. Sweden is on the up and will continue to grow in cases for sometime; this'll put a strain on their healthcare system, economy and social "well-being" that the other Scandos have avoided with sensible and early lockdowns...

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