The COVID-2019 Thread

[Seekingasylum]

Who gives a fuk where in Thailand she was - the important information is: where was she staying in Korea for 6 days before getting sick?

&, after 6 days of treatment in a decent Korea medical centre her condition did not improve... Not good. Thailand and Korea might soon be fighting out second place on the death toll chart.

Bollocks, who cares about the Koreans, none of us retires there you silly fuck.

The important and missing fact is just where did she contract it. At Swampy/DM airport next to a bunch of kitchens checking in for a flight or was she in some skanky kitchen shithole hotel eating next to them? Or was it in a shopping mall next to a tour group in Bkk, Hua Hin or Patters?

Also, there ain't no cure or treatment, there is only a therapy to provide support while the body fights the virus eg ventilator for breathing and monitoring of the heart.

[Bettyboo]

Bollocks, who cares about the Koreans, none of us retire there you silly fuck.

The important and missing fact is just where did she contract it. At Swampy/DM airport next to a bunch of kitchens checking in for a flight or was she in some skanky kitchen shithole hotel eating next to them? Or was it in a shopping mall next to a tour group in Bkk, Hua Hin or Patters?

Also, there ain't no cure or treatment, there is only a therapy to provide support while the body fights the virus eg ventilator for breathing and monitoring of the heart.

You're finally starting to get the picture, old fella... Mortality rate for over 50s likely to be high, for the over 60s gonna be very high, and it'll be spread all over Thailand (i.e. where you live!) - are you worried yet or still finding the dead Chinese amusing?

[Seekingasylum]

I'm well aware of this virus's pathology but so far I and my wingman are not in the high risk factor demographic. We avoid the kitchens and the places they frequent here in Pattaya and enjoy good health.

The people who should be really worried are those who are in close and habitual contact within confined spaces for prolonged periods of time with a group known to be a high risk category e.g. teachers in an academic institution patronised by a significant group of Chinese who most likely travelled to and from China within the past six weeks.

People like you, Battyboob.



Chinks have never amused me, I detest the mainland dross that travel here.

[misskit]

Coronavirus: South Korean woman travelling home from Thailand tests positive for virus

I just knew this would happen!

[Wally Dorian Raffles]

[panama hat]

I detest the mainland dross that travel here.

Thank you for, at least, differentiating between Mainlanders and others - a world of difference

[Seekingasylum]

I grew up during a significant portion of my early life in Singapore and HK - the Chinese I encountered there were nothing like the peasants of mainland China that travel here. Fifty years ago I never once encountered anyone who could regale an anecdote that a Chinese person urinated or defecated anywhere in either place except in a toilet. In 1966/67 Lee Kuan Yew in a bid to eradicate TB from Singapore forbade the practice of public spitting, anywhere and even the old codgers squatting by the bus stop stopped doing it.

I have HK Chinese ( they refer to themselves as British Chinese ) acquaintances who are in near tears when they describe the antics of the mainlanders and their disgusting habits in the mass transit and elsewhere.

The bastards are dirty, bullying, heathen, brutish bastards without any fucking manners or sense of public decorum. And they eat vermin like animals and carrion.

[Bettyboo]

People like you, Battyboob.

Two points:

1) You may well be right; they're talking about delaying the new semester here as we apparently have over 2,500 Chinese students in total (that number seems high to me, but that's what I was told today)...

2) It's coming to your neighbourhood soon too, so beware!

[misskit]

80% of coronavirus victims are over 60, official says

The death rate from the Wuhan coronavirus across mainland China stands at 2.1%, China’s National Health Commission said in a press update on Tuesday.


In Hubei province, the epicenter of the outbreak, the rate is 3.1%, said Jiao Yahui, deputy director of the National Health Commissions State Health Administration.


Hubei province accounts for 97% of all deaths.


Of the 425 confirmed deaths across mainland China, 80% of the victims were over the age of 60, and 75% of victims had some form of underlying disease, Jiao added. Two-thirds of the confirmed deaths are male.


Jiao attributed the higher number of deaths in Hubei province to the large number of severe cases as well as the initial lack of hospital beds to treat patients.


Despite the youngest confirmed case being just one month old, the majority of cases -- especially severe cases -- involve elderly patients, Jiao said.


The national average time needed for a patient to fully recover is nine days, according to Jiao. She added that in Hubei province the recovery time is higher at 20 days because there are more severe cases.


There are currently 20,438 confirmed cases of the Wuhan coronavirus across mainland China.





Coronavirus: Second death outside of mainland China confirmed - live updates - CNN

[OhOh]

At Swampy/DM airport next to a bunch of kitchens

Swampy immigration queue.

A Scotsman off the overnight, BA London flight suggested they share a Scotch Pie. He had a bagful and thinking they would be confiscated, handed them out to all those around him. She thought he was a film star for some reason.

[OhOh]

British Chinese now

I'm sure there's a gunboat or two steaming to rescue them and take them back to England as we type on our keyboards.

I wonder if Boris will open the doors wide to allow them in.

Which way do the howitzers point in HK, seawards or towards the mainland?

[helge]

OK
Some perspectiv:
In Denmark(some 5,5mill) between 1000-2000 dies every year of the Flu(indirectly),and we have a pretty well running healthcare system.
Up to 20% gets it.

During the Mexican swineflu 32 died

Vira can take weeks to get rid off, as far as I know

[qwerty]

So, I am going to predict that there will be about 22,000 cases by the morning of the 4th and about 500 deaths.

On the 7th, 44,000 cases and 1000 deaths.
the 10th, 85-90,000 cases and 2000 deaths

Well, it's the morning of the 5th and the numbers are 23,906 cases and 492 deaths. My prediction is holding up so far. We will see if the morning of the 11th shows 1000 deaths!

[jabir]

Many believe it already has already broken a thousand, though that's a psychological barrier that the authorities will want to avoid even with manipulation; unless of course this thing really takes off and fatalities can no longer be minimised through 'official' figures.

[misskit]

Suspected infection rates show decline in new coronavirus numbers

The number of suspected infections of the novel coronavirus grew at a slower rate nationwide on Tuesday, with daily suspected cases up by less than 4,000 for the first time since Jan 29, according to the National Health Commission.


A total of 3,971 suspected cases were reported on Tuesday, bringing the total number of suspected cases on the Chinese mainland to 23,260 as of Tuesday at midnight, the commission said on Wednesday.


The number of confirmed novel coronavirus cases rose to 24,324 as of Tuesday at midnight, including 490 deaths, it said.


A total of 3,887 new confirmed cases were reported on Tuesday — including 65 new fatalities, all in Hubei province, the commission said.


The number of confirmed cases rose to 18 in Hong Kong, including one death, 10 in Macao and 11 in Taiwan, the commission said.


Health authorities on the mainland have traced 252,154 people with close contact with patients, with 185,555 of them still under medical observation, according to the commission.


Hubei province reported 65 new fatalities on Tuesday, and 49 in Wuhan, epicenter of the epidemic, bringing the total number of deaths in the province to 479 as of Tuesday at midnight, the provincial health commission said on Wednesday.


The number of confirmed cases increased by 3,156 on Tuesday, resulting in a total number of 16,678 cases reported in the province including 711 in critical condition. Of all the confirmed cases, 8,351 were reported in Wuhan.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/20200...217274f17.html

[Chittychangchang]

That's from the China daily, no doubt controlled by th CCP.
This is just getting started...

[panama hat]

with daily suspected cases up by less than 4,000 for the first time since Jan 29, according to the National Health Commission.

A total of 3,971 suspected cases were reported on Tuesday

Well, that's a relief . . . because:

That's from the China daily

[OhOh]

My prediction

Care to show us a link to "your", peer group approved, published dissertation, to substantiate your claim?

[OhOh]

double

[HermantheGerman]

Suspected infection rates show decline in new coronavirus numbers

Did OhOh write this article for the chinese or did something get lost in translation ?

[Bettyboo]

^ yesterday

Today:



Total confirmed = 20% increase.

Total deaths = 15% increase.

Total recovered = 15% increase.


Project that forward 10 days at the same rate would be:

Total Confirmed = 152,000

Total Deaths = 2,300

Total Recovered = 3,670

Thus, you'd want the rate to slow soon and dramatically because if anything like this growth rate continues then you can do the maths: 30 days, 60 days, 90 days...

[HermantheGerman]

Hospital staff in Wuhan to Corona: "I think there are significantly more infections"

In China, tens of thousands of people have contracted the new corona virus and more than 420 people have died. In a DW interview, a hospital employee in Wuhan explains why he expects more people to be infected.
Patients with symptoms often have to wait for hours before they can be examined. Doctors prescribe medication and send people back home, instructing them to stay away from other people. The waiting rooms are full of people who cough. Even with a healthy person who stays in such an environment for a long time, the risk of getting infected increases.The way to the next hospital is often a long one. If you don't have a private car, you can only take a taxi and a maximum of two taxis are assigned to each settlement. Only a few volunteers still drive sick people. The emergency call 120 has collapsed due to the onslaught. If you are unlucky, you have to walk. Some are said not to have made it to the hospital.How is the supply of products to protect against infection?Mouthguards and disinfectants are sold out. They are also very scarce in hospitals. In the meantime, many donations have arrived in Wuhan. But the requirement for doctors in the hospital to change the face mask every four hours and protective clothing every six hours cannot be met.Do you have any doubts about the numbers of infections and deaths?I think that there are significantly more infections and deaths than is becoming public. Even if the usual computed tomography detects a lung disease, the procedure necessary to get certainty about the pathogen does not always follow. Why? Because the queue is too long. However, those who have not taken the test and die will not be included in the statistics of deaths from the corona virus. Two new hospitals are about to open. That is good news. But 2000 beds in two newly built hospitals are not enough. There is a shortage of medical professionals. The doctors and nurses are overworked, shift schedules no longer work. Long inpatient treatment is necessary to cure lung diseases. The authorities are currently mobilizing admission capacities in smaller clinics. Jiesi Luo (name changed) is a medical technician in a hospital in Wuhan.


google translated from:
Krankenhausmitarbeiter in Wuhan zu Corona: ″Ich denke, es sind deutlich mehr Ansteckungen″ | Asien | DW | 04.02.2020

[misskit]

Hong Kong testing over 1,800 passengers on cruise ship for coronavirus

HONG KONG (Reuters) - Hong Kong was testing over 1,800 passengers and crew on a cruise ship for a coronavirus that originated in Wuhan, after some crew members reported having fever and other symptoms. Authorities were not letting anyone leave the ship without permission.


The Chinese-ruled city’s health department said on Wednesday 90 percent of the passengers were Hong Kongers and no mainland Chinese were on board. Previously, three mainland Chinese that had been on the ship between Jan. 19 and 24 were found to have contracted the virus.


The World Dream ship, operated by Dream Cruises, was denied entry in the southern Taiwan port of Kaohsiung on Tuesday. On Monday, the ship visited Taiwan’s northern Keelung port.


It was not clear how long passengers and crew would be kept on the ship.

Hong Kong testing over 1,800 passengers on cruise ship for coronavirus - Reuters

[harrybarracuda]

BP says virus could slice 40% off oil demand growthAnjli Raval, Senior Energy Correspondent, writes:UK energy major BP said the deadly coronavirus outbreak could slice global oil demand growth by roughly 40 per cent this year, putting pressure on producers to enact further supply curbs to keep prices in check.“Around 1m-1.2m barrels a day is what is actually out right now,” said Brian Gilvary, BP’s chief financial officer.He said an average of 300,000-500,000 b/d were at risk this year. This is a hefty chunk of the 1.2m b/d of growth expected by the company and global energy agencies. “We’ll see how that plays out,” Mr Gilvary said.China is a major oil consumer and energy sector analysts fear the closure of cities and the cancellation of flights in and out of the country will hit consumption dramatically.Brent crude, the international benchmark, has fallen more than 20 per cent in recent weeks to 54.80 a barrel.Mr Gilvary said one question was “whether Opec balances or not”. The remarks come as Opec and its allies including Russia are discussing emergency cuts in oil production after the crude price entered a bear market.



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[Klondyke]

What a relief at last...

World currently 'not in a pandemic' of China virus: WHO
PUBLISHED : 4 FEB 2020 AT 20:45

GENEVA - The World Health Organization said Tuesday that the outbreak of the deadly novel coronavirus, which has spread from China to two dozen countries, does not yet constitute a "pandemic".

"Currently we are not in a pandemic," Sylvie Briand, head of WHO's Global Infectious Hazard Preparedness division, told reporters in Geneva.

Instead, she said, "we are at the phase where it is an epidemic with multiple foci."

he disease has killed more than 425 people and infected a further 20,000 in China, nearly all of them in central Hubei province -- the epicentre of the outbreak -- and spread to two-dozen countries since it emerged in December.

Briand said that while there is rapid spread of transmission in Hubei, outside the province there are mainly "spillover cases" with sporadic clusters of transmission.

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China virus deaths rise to 490

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"In these other places in China, the strategy currently is to stop transmission," she said, adding that the same was true for affected countries outside of China.

"We would like to make sure that we don't have a second Hubei type of scenario," she said.

Authorities in China have taken dramatic measures to halt transmission, while other affected countries have put in place steps to rein in the spread.

- Wearing mask 'not enough' -

"Countries are implementing early case detection, early isolation and treatment of patients, contact tracing to make sure they identify very early contacts that become symptomatic," Briand pointed out.

"We hope that based on ... measures in Hubei but also in other places where we have had spillover, we can stop transmission and get rid of this virus," she said.

She acknowledged that halting the spread of the new pneumonia-like virus would be "challenging".

"I am not saying it is easy, but ... we believe that it can be done," she said.

The respiratory disease spreads through droplets, for instance when people sneeze or cough, or likely through direct contact with infected people or with objects they have touched.

But Briand said it remained unclear how long the virus could linger on an object, stressing the need for frequent hand-washing to protect against transmission.

"To stop transmission of this virus, it is very important that sick people wear masks" to avoid infecting others, she said, adding though the benefits of healthy people wearing masks as a precautionary measure were less clear.

People wearing masks but not taking other precautions like frequently washing their hands could have a "false sense of security", she said.

"Masks alone are not enough. It is a package of measures that you have to put in place," she said.

"If people use the entire package, it is fine. If they just use masks, I think it is not enough."

World currently 'not in a pandemic' of China virus: WHO