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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    If it's anything like the "Weapons of Mass Destruction" fiasco they should shut the fuck up before even taking legal action.
    And before the inquiry why the Fort Detrick laboratory was closed only one year later after it was known that the de-contamination of the waste water hasn't been functioning...

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    And the three millionth reported case passes with nary a murmur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And the three millionth reported case passes with nary a murmur.
    ......and a third of this number [cases and deaths] coming from the U.S.

    Quite obvious they're not handling well - as a society.
    And not sinking in.

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    nearly 60,000 dead in the U.S. alone.

    kind of shut up those idiots like boonaloon who a few weeks ago were spamming memes like '12,500 dead of Obama's H1n1 and not a peep, a couple thousand dead of coronavirus and the MSM loses its mind".
    What have you got to say now fellas?
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    ^^^ still 0.000375‬% fukwit

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    Wow....that's twenty 9/11s.

    Where's ENT when we need him ?

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    WHO chief says 'world should have listened' to early coronavirus warnings


    The World Health Organization's director-general said Monday that the agency had sounded the highest level of alarm over the novel coronavirus early on, but lamented that not all countries had heeded its advice.

    Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus pointed out that the WHO warned the COVID-19 outbreak constituted a "Public Health Emergency of International Concern" on January 30, when there were no deaths and only 82 cases registered outside China.

    "The world should have listened to WHO then, carefully," he told a virtual press briefing.


    The organisation has faced scathing criticism from US President Donald Trump, who earlier this month suspended Washington's funding after accusing WHO of downplaying the seriousness of the outbreak and kowtowing to China, where the novel coronavirus first surfaced late last year.
    Mr Trump has provided no evidence to support his claims.
    Mr Tedros insisted that the UN health agency had provided sound advice from the beginning "based on the best science and evidence".
    But he stressed though that "we do not have any mandate to force countries... to take our advice."

    ..... "We advised the whole world to implement a comprehensive public health approach, and we said find, test, isolate, and do contact tracing," he said.

    "You can check for yourselves: countries who followed that are in a better position than others. This is fact."
    WHO chief says 'world should have listened' to early coronavirus warnings | SBS News

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    WHO chief says 'world should have listened' to early coronavirus warnings


    The World Health Organization's director-general said Monday that the agency had sounded the highest level of alarm over the novel coronavirus early on, but lamented that not all countries had heeded its advice.

    Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus pointed out that the WHO warned the COVID-19 outbreak constituted a "Public Health Emergency of International Concern" on January 30, when there were no deaths and only 82 cases registered outside China.

    "The world should have listened to WHO then, carefully," he told a virtual press briefing.


    The organisation has faced scathing criticism from US President Donald Trump, who earlier this month suspended Washington's funding after accusing WHO of downplaying the seriousness of the outbreak and kowtowing to China, where the novel coronavirus first surfaced late last year.

    Mr Trump has provided no evidence to support his claims.

    Mr Tedros insisted that the UN health agency had provided sound advice from the beginning "based on the best science and evidence".

    But he stressed though that "we do not have any mandate to force countries... to take our advice."

    ..... "We advised the whole world to implement a comprehensive public health approach, and we said find, test, isolate, and do contact tracing," he said.

    "You can check for yourselves: countries who followed that are in a better position than others. This is fact."

    WHO chief says 'world should have listened' to early coronavirus warnings | SBS News

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    ......and a third of this number [cases and deaths] coming from the U.S.
    Damned orange cunto...

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    In the experiment, droplets from a cough could sometimes reach 12 feet. They used laser to track the droplets - cool!

    My 55 inch screen is about 12 feet away from my recliner. Based on having to clean the screen every few months, I know for a fact that my sneezes and coughs carry that far! A good hawker can carry a long distance!

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    A couple of facts that we should all know:

    The virus is not alive. It is a packet of DNA and RNA wrapped in a thin wrapper of fat.

    You can not kill the virus, but you can get it to deteriorate over time or with detergent, oxidizer, or UV light that breaks down the protective fat layer.

    UV light from the sun will break down the virus in a matter of minutes, so being outside alone is good.

    The virus is a basic building block of life and it will replicate, mutate, and propagate if it finds the right medium like mucous.

    It is considered a "slippery" virus in that it replicates and mutates in unpredictable ways. Hence all the different symptoms people have.

    There is no way of stopping the virus except for denying it media to propagate, developing herd immunity, or finding a vaccine that is effective.

    The packet of RNA and DNA will use human cells to propagate itself into millions of new packets.

    As for size, all of us with time in Thailand can relate to this comparison with PM 2.5 and PM10 particles!

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    ^ Sigh. Almost nothing in that post is correct.

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    Scientists have identified a novel group of immune cells in the lungs that are associated with the control of inflammation during viral infections, like influenza or possibly coronavirus. This discovery may help to advance the development of therapeutics to treat inflammation-related lung conditions such as bronchitis, influenza and potentially even COVID-19.

    Macrophages are an important subset of phagocytic immune cells found throughout the body that form part of our body’s first line of defense against invading foreign material, including bacteria and viruses. Alveolar macrophages (AMs) are a well-known inhabitant of the lungs and are responsible for direct clearance of viruses. This new group of immune cells, identified in the lungs of mice, are a distinct group of macrophages, dubbed NAMs (nerve and airway associated macrophages), that appear instead to moderate inflammation in the lungs during viral infection. Inflammation is an important part of the innate immune response to potentially harmful foreign material and includes the production of regulatory molecules, such as cytokines, and recruitment of immune cells to the affected locations. If inflammation goes unchecked, however, it can be damaging to the body and therefore requires tight regulation.

    The study was published today in Science Immunology.

    The team, including scientists Columbia University Medical Center, New York University Langone Health, Uconn Health and the University of Bordeaux, studied the location and role of these novel immune cells. Professor Kamal M. Khanna, corresponding author of the paper, commented “Emerging evidence suggests that tissue-resident macrophages play critical roles in maintaining immune and tissue homeostasis in mucosal organs under inflammatory conditions, such as during infections. Although studies primarily using bone marrow-derived macrophages have been very informative about the function of macrophages in response to specific stimuli in vitro, these roles remain to be elucidated among tissue-resident macrophage subsets in the context of infection in the local tissue environment in vivo. This was one of the main goals of our study.”

    Using live cell imaging in live mice, they found that NAMs cluster primarily around the sympathetic pulmonary nerves and airways. With the use of mouse models unable to produce either AMs or NAMs, they were able to demonstrate that NAMs were embryonically derived, self-renewing, and altogether developmentally distinct from AMs. Unlike AMs, the development of NAMs requires colony-stimulating factor 1 (CSF1) but not granulocyte-macrophage CSF (GM-CSF) on which AM development and maturation is highly dependent.

    Population and single cell transcriptome analysis revealed that NAMs were distinct from other macrophage groups resident in the lungs at the transcriptional level too. The analysis also indicated that NAMs highly transcribed immunoregulatory genes under steady-state and inflammatory conditions. “I think what excites me most about our findings is the fact that we have identified a unique subset of the macrophage population (a critical cell type of the innate immune system) that we know very little about. Our results provide essential insights into the development and maintenance, and functions of a poorly understood subset of resident macrophages in the lung” said Professor Khanna.

    Mice were experimentally infected with influenza virus to examine the role of NAMs during infection. This revealed that NAMs proliferated robustly following infection in the wild-type mice. However, in those unable to produce NAMs, infection induced an overzealous immune response with excessive production of inflammatory cytokines and immune cell infiltration into tissues. “We find that, at least with influenza, AMs help clear the infection, while NAMs help regulate and suppress infection-induced inflammation”. This transcriptionally and developmentally distinct subset of airway-associated macrophages are therefore important in maintaining immune and tissue homeostasis, information that provides insights for future therapeutic developments, including those against COVID-19.

    “As we come to understand more about how NAMs regulate infection-induced inflammation we can target these macrophages to help resolve damaging inflammation caused by respiratory viral infections such as COVID-19.” He concluded “Future studies will examine how to augment their function or induce their proliferation to increase their numbers at the right time during viral infections”.

    New Immune Cell on the Block During Viral Lung Infections | Technology Networks

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And the three millionth reported case passes with nary a murmur.
    After a while fatigue takes over, people accept reality and focus on new priorities like life, livelihood and activities.

    Anyway in numerical terms 2-300k deaths will be piffling compared to the population surge in Dec/Feb; no excuses, plenty of time, let's see if authorities are equipped to receive the quarantineans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And the three millionth reported case passes with nary a murmur.
    I'm not surprised, does anyone believe these stats any longer? Other reports suggest there could be 2m infected in NY alone. UK models suggest the virus was around at least 1 month before the first reported death. The lockdown is taking longer than expected to bring the virus under control.

    There needs to be a sustainable set of restrictions imposed. Ones that allow schools to open, allow stores to open and allow people to work and travel. Freely available masks and sanitiser, shopping on certain days or time of day depending on (say) address or location staggered working times could all help.

    Testing 80% of the population appears to be a difficult task...what will it be like trying to vaccinate that percentage?

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    Thailand: 7 new COVID-19 patients and 2 deaths

    BANGKOK (NNT) - The government’s Center for the COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has confirmed seven new COVID-19 cases with two new deaths.


    Dr. Taweesin Visanuyothin, spokesperson for the CCSA and Ministry of Public Health, reported today that Thailand has so far recorded a total of 2,938 coronavirus cases, with 54 fatalities.


    According to the information from the center, 232 patients are currently hospitalized while 2,652 have made full recoveries.


    He said most of the patients are people aged between 20 and 29 years old, with Bangkok and Nonthaburi still the two locations that have the biggest number of cases.


    The spokesperson reiterated the importance of maintaining social distancing guidelines, as he pointed out that most of the new patients have attended events in crowded venues.


    The government has urged people to continue wearing face masks and washing their hands regularly, as well as practice social distancing and observe other government measures to help minimize new infections and contain the coronavirus outbreak.

    National News Bureau Of Thailand

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    More than 2,200 Indonesians have died with coronavirus symptoms, data shows

    (Reuters) – More than 2,200 Indonesians have died with acute symptoms of COVID-19 but were not recorded as victims of the disease, a Reuters review of data from 16 of the country’s 34 provinces showed.


    Three medical experts said the figures indicated the national death toll was likely to be much higher than the official figure of 765.


    Indonesia has one of the lowest testing rates in the world and some epidemiologists say that has made it harder to get an accurate picture of the extent of infections in the world’s fourth most populous country.


    The most current data from the 16 provinces shows there were 2,212 deaths of patients under supervision because they have acute coronavirus symptoms. Indonesia’s health ministry uses the acronym PDP to classify these patients when there is no other clinical explanation for their symptoms.


    The data is collated by provincial agencies daily or weekly from figures supplied by hospitals, clinics and officials overseeing burials. It was obtained by Reuters by checking websites, talking to provincial officials and reviewing World Health Organization (WHO) reports.


    The 2,212 deaths were in addition to the deaths of 693 people who had tested positive for COVID-19 in those provinces and were officially recorded as victims of the disease.


    The 16 provinces account for more than three quarters of the country’s 260 million population.


    A senior member of the government’s COVID-19 taskforce, Wiku Adisasmito, did not dispute the Reuters findings but declined to comment on the number of coronavirus victims he believed were to be found among the patients classified as PDP.


    He said many of the 19,897 suspected coronavirus sufferers in Indonesia had not been tested because of long queues of specimens awaiting processing at under-staffed laboratories. Some people had died before their sample was analysed, he said.


    “If they have thousands or hundreds of samples they need to test, which one will they give the priority? They will give the priority to the people that are still alive,” he told Reuters.


    Adisasmito is the most senior public health expert on Indonesia’s COVID-19 taskforce and the press office of President Joko Widodo typically refers queries to the taskforce.


    According to the Ministry of Health’s most recent COVID-19 guidelines, patients classified as PDP are those with acute respiratory illnesses for which there is no clinical explanation other than the new coronavirus.


    To be classified as PDP, patients must also have travelled to a country, or an area in Indonesia, where the coronavirus has taken hold within 14 days of becoming sick.


    “I believe the vast majority of PDP deaths were caused by COVID-19,” said Pandu Riono, an epidemiologist at the University of Indonesia, citing their COVID-19 symptoms and that there was no other identified cause of death.


    Some senior government members played down the risk of an outbreak in January and February with some suggesting that prayer, herbal remedies and hot weather would help ward off the virus. The death toll is now the highest in Asia after China, according to a Reuters tally.


    BURIALS
    The provincial data follows a report by Reuters this month that burials in the capital Jakarta in March were up by 40% on any month since at least January 2018. The city’s governor told Reuters that coronavirus was the only likely explanation.


    Indonesia had officially recorded 9,096 coronavirus infections as of April 27. It has conducted 210 tests per million people. Neighbouring Australia has tested 100 times more per capita, while Vietnam’s testing is about 10 times higher.


    “The true infection and death rate are higher than the officially reported data because our tests are still a very low number compared to the population,” said Dr Iwan Ariawan, an epidemiologist from the University of Indonesia.


    President Joko Widodo’s government has been accused by activists and his political opponents of a lack of transparency in handling the epidemic.


    The government says it has taken appropriate measures, but Widodo said last month that some information had been withheld from the public to prevent panic.


    Widodo said last week he had told his ministers to report COVID-19 data truthfully. His government announced a new transparency initiative two weeks ago but a promised new website with all the data has yet to be launched.


    Daeng Faqih, chairman of the Indonesian Doctors Association, the country’s pre-eminent grouping of doctors, has urged the government to reveal the national number of suspected COVID-19 patients who had died but were not tested.


    The WHO representative office in Indonesia also said at the weekend that deaths of suspected coronavirus sufferers should be disclosed.


    Adisasmito said the government was not hiding data and that he was unaware the WHO had called for suspected COVID-19 death statistics to be made public.


    On Tuesday, the WHO declined to offer any comment beyond its weekend advice, made in its latest situation report on Indonesia.


    Exclusive: More than 2,200 Indonesians have died with coronavirus symptoms, data shows – Thai PBS World

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    RUSSIA: April 28


    Russia confirmed 6,411 new coronavirus infections Tuesday, bringing the country’s official number of cases to 93,558 and marking a new one-day record increase. Russia is now the eighth most-affected country in terms of infections, having surpassed China and Iran this week.


    President Vladimir Putin will give his fifth public address regarding the coronavirus during a meeting with regional leaders and coronavirus response officials at around 3 p.m. Tuesday. He is expected to make an announcement on the extension of Russia's coronavirus lockdown.


    Russian doctors mistrustful of official coronavirus data have launched an unofficial list of their colleagues who have died from the virus.

    Coronavirus in Russia: The Latest News - The Moscow Times

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    Coronavirus: Top NYC doctor takes her own life



    A top public health expert says US coronavirus pandemic is 'near the end of the beginning' as states are set to reopen
    A top public health expert says US coronavirus pandemic is '''near the end of the beginning''' as states are set to reopen

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    ^ How has this suicide got anything to do with Covid 19 Missy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    ^ How has this suicide got anything to do with Covid 19 Missy?
    the first line of the article explains.

    A top New York City doctor who was on the front line of the US fight against coronavirus has taken her own life.

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    ^^ Did you read the story? Had plenty to do with COVID19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    ^ How has this suicide got anything to do with Covid 19 Missy?
    because the virus triggered the poor nurse to take her own life,

    gee, you are a bit slow

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    ^ She was a doctor not a nurse. Pretty stressful job and she had just recovered from Covid.

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