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    Fucking commie scum never change, eh.

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    "7:53 am Feb 3

    2,829 new cases of coronavirus were reported nationwide in China on Feb 2,

    making total infection number to 17,205.

    The death toll hit 361.



    7:55 am Feb 4

    3,235 confirmed cases were newly reported on Feb 3,

    total infection number increased to 20,438 in Chinese mainland;

    death toll rose to 425"


    Real-time update on coronavirus outbreak - Global Times
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    One hopes the exponential increase hits 500 million by which time these bloody savages might well understand that wet markets selling and butchering wildlife kept alive in cages close by captive chickens, dogs, rats and snakes is not a particularly good idea.
    It is only after they have to burn hundreds of thousands corpses will these medieval fuckers learn.

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    I'd still like to see the Total Recovered number much much higher than the Total Deaths number.






    Talk of a 2% mortality rate makes no sense until the Recovered numbers dramatically increase as a ratio of total infected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Talk of a 2% mortality rate makes no sense until the Recovered numbers dramatically increase as a ratio of total infected.
    That bothers me also. And, sounds as if 19,500 people are so are still ill. Just can’t be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^


    That bothers me also. And, sounds as if 19,500 people are so are still ill. Just can’t be right.
    Indeed, a 2%-3% recovery rate isn't good. (This is just exactly the same approach as saying a 2% mortality rate given the known figures...).

    We will have to wait a while for the cycle to either recovery or death has run it's course in a large sample of infected patients.

    It also makes you wonder just how long it lasts: 3-4 days; a week; two weeks; a month?

    Further, from about a week ago, the statistic was: 6000 cases and 132 dead, the newest number of 20,604 cases and 402 dead is parallel. So, 2% mortality rate is there, but where are the released patients that got better? Do infected patients remain infected/carriers even after they have recovered? That would make some sense, and I did have one nurse here in Korea say that to me. Still, the gap in. numbers is worrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    One hopes the exponential increase hits 500 million by which time these bloody savages might well understand that wet markets selling and butchering wildlife kept alive in cages close by captive chickens, dogs, rats and snakes is not a particularly good idea.
    It is only after they have to burn hundreds of thousands corpses will these medieval fuckers learn.
    Can't argue with that sausage Arse.

    The filthy chinkies are really causing and reaping everything they deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    "7:53 am Feb 3

    2,829 new cases of coronavirus were reported nationwide in China on Feb 2,

    making total infection number to 17,205.

    The death toll hit 361.



    7:55 am Feb 4

    3,235 confirmed cases were newly reported on Feb 3,

    total infection number increased to 20,438 in Chinese mainland;

    death toll rose to 425"


    Real-time update on coronavirus outbreak - Global Times
    WHO gives the SARS overall fatality rate at 14-15%, higher than previous estimates with 774 confirmed deaths in its 7 month run (11/02-07/03), but >50% for those older than 64. Case detection, isolation, quarantine and contact tracing all helped to break the transmission chain. Not quite gone yet, since SARS specimens still exist in research facilities, so anything can happen if some of those facilities are under traditionally irresponsible govs.

    Estimates of SARS death rates revised upward | CIDRAP

    Remains to be seen how this one goes, though the Chinese authorities didn't help much toward detection and contact tracing by failing to issue notice early on, before it ran loose. And WHO praised them for finally informing the world of a new threat.

    Meh, what next!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I'd still like to see the Total Recovered number much much higher than the Total Deaths number.






    Talk of a 2% mortality rate makes no sense until the Recovered numbers dramatically increase as a ratio of total infected.
    Mainstream numbers do not reveal important details such as demographics, point of detection, quarantine and treatment quality, which would give a clearer picture of fatality/survival chances.

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    It's spreading like wildfire. The fact that a person showing no symptoms can be contagious doesn't help.<br>
    A Tokyo tour bus coach has fallen ill after transporting a tour group from Wuhan.<br>
    Businesses are being severely hit. A friend has 5 dance studios she can't run meanwhile she still has to pay rent, salaries etc.<br>
    Another has an upmarket seafood restaurant, stocked up on all the expensive seafood for a busy spring festival season then this. He's stuck with the stock and customers who'd paid deposits are demanding their money back.<br>
    Hotels, restaurants, tourist and transport companies, even local shops and supermarkets are suffering. Every segment of the economy is feeling the pinch.<br>
    I read where Honda are closing 3 factories in Wuhan.<br>
    This is going to have serious long term economic consequences for China.<br>you could say they bought it on themselves with bad public hygeine and you'd be right but still, many will suffer and I don't wish that on anyone really.<br>
    Although next time i curse one of the dirty cunts for gobbing a loogie I won't feel bad about it.
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    If we stop testing right now wed have very few cases, if any. Donald J Trump.

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    Lots of confusion over the oft quoted numbers dying from Flu, its likely combined or confused with Pneumonia which can have many causal factors outside of immediate viral infection.

    Many old folk die of Pneumonia - the lung infection can be caused by numerous factors inc things as simple as degraded swallow reflex in the aged so that food / reflux leads to upper respiratory tract infection - its moot what number are Flu related. Even so the numbers annually as mentioned do dwarf Cornavirus...at the moment.

    https://www.lung.org/assets/documents/research/pi-trend-report.pdf

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    The new coronavirus appears to be able to spread to another person even before an infected person shows symptoms, according to a new report of a case in Germany.

    The report, published Jan. 30 in The New England Journal of Medicine, describes a 33-year-old, previously healthy man who developed a sore throat, chills and muscle aches on Jan. 24 and soon developed a fever.


    The man had not traveled out of the country recently, but four days before he started showing symptoms, he had a business meeting with a colleague from China. Both the man and the colleague are employees of the German auto parts supplier Webasto, according to Reuters. At the time of the meeting, the colleague, a Shanghai resident, appeared well and had no signs of an infection. But during a flight back to China, the colleague became ill, and she tested positive for the new coronavirus, called 2019-nCov, on Jan. 26.


    This prompted officials to track down all of the people the Shanghai resident had contact with during her business trip, including the 33-year-old German man. Tests conducted on Jan. 27 showed that the man was positive for 2019-nCov as well.


    This report shows that "the infection appears to have been transmitted during the incubation period of the index patient [the Shanghai resident]," the authors wrote. (The incubation period is the time between when a person is infected with a pathogen and when they show symptoms.)


    What's more, an investigation showed that three people in Germany who worked at the Webasto also tested positive for 2019-nCov. Of these three employees, only one had contact with the Shanghai resident during a meeting. This suggests that the German man infected at least two of his co-workers, also before he had notable symptoms.
    New coronavirus can spread before symptoms start, German case suggests | Live Science

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    The new coronavirus appears to be able to spread to another person even before an infected person shows symptoms, according to a new report of a case in Germany.

    The report, published Jan. 30 in The New England Journal of Medicine, describes a 33-year-old, previously healthy man who developed a sore throat, chills and muscle aches on Jan. 24 and soon developed a fever.


    The man had not traveled out of the country recently, but four days before he started showing symptoms, he had a business meeting with a colleague from China. Both the man and the colleague are employees of the German auto parts supplier Webasto, according to Reuters. At the time of the meeting, the colleague, a Shanghai resident, appeared well and had no signs of an infection. But during a flight back to China, the colleague became ill, and she tested positive for the new coronavirus, called 2019-nCov, on Jan. 26.


    This prompted officials to track down all of the people the Shanghai resident had contact with during her business trip, including the 33-year-old German man. Tests conducted on Jan. 27 showed that the man was positive for 2019-nCov as well.


    This report shows that "the infection appears to have been transmitted during the incubation period of the index patient [the Shanghai resident]," the authors wrote. (The incubation period is the time between when a person is infected with a pathogen and when they show symptoms.)


    What's more, an investigation showed that three people in Germany who worked at the Webasto also tested positive for 2019-nCov. Of these three employees, only one had contact with the Shanghai resident during a meeting. This suggests that the German man infected at least two of his co-workers, also before he had notable symptoms.
    New coronavirus can spread before symptoms start, German case suggests | Live Science

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    So, what do you do while this is going on around you? (not sure where in China you are, but I hope you're safe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Indeed, a 2%-3% recovery rate isn't good.
    Those German doctors must have no clue what they are doing. None of them have claimed yet that anyone has recovered from their infection. The only thing they say is: "They are doing well".

    Does the word recovery have a different meaning in China then in Germany?
    Does the word recovery in China mean: "Get the hell out of the hospital we need room for the next batch?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Mainstream numbers do not reveal important details such as demographics, point of detection, quarantine and treatment quality, which would give a clearer picture of fatality/survival chances.
    None of which we know yet thus it's hard to know what'll happen from here. The fact that it has already killed more than SARS isn't a good sign.

    SARS estimates (from your article) were said ti be 4%, but are now thought to have been nearly 4 times higher. The pessimist/skeptic in me says this will be the same because the WHO have clearly learnt sweet FA in the mean time... From your article, SARS ended up having a higher than 50% mortality rate for people over 64 - with the spread of this disease, imagine how the death toll could add up if the same pattern develops.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    It's spreading like wildfire. The fact that a person showing no symptoms can be contagious doesn't help.
    Yeah, it's a smart little bastard, hides itself well and thus travels far and wide.

    Economies will be hurt far and wide. We have 2,500+ Chinese students at my Uni - that's a lot of teacher salaries! Thailand will suffer plenty as the Chinese tourist money dries up too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Thai doctor says new drug combination treated coronavirus patient
    Dr.Kriangsak Atipornwanich, a doctor at Rajavithi Hospital in Bangkok, said he treated a 71-year-old female patient from China with a combination of drugs used in HIV and flu treatments. He said the patient had previously been treated with only anti-HIV drugs.
    Any update ?

    Anyway, this reminds me of going to the doctor in Thailand and getting a combination of drugs/pills with many different colors.

    The COVID-2019 Thread-agilus-milly-lilly-039-s-mix

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Any update ?

    Anyway, this reminds me of going to the doctor in Thailand and getting a combination of drugs/pills with many different colors.
    Yes, we're all gonna die. Mr Sausage first, me last...

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    ^

    I also suggest of adding a dosis of Viagra to keep the males patient smiling.

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    Pattaya today is like stepping back to pre 2012 days, when all the tourists spoke English and were Westerners.

    Fucking wonderful.

    And I am just so much relishing the schadenfreude in observing the whines from the Thai yelping and bemoaning their losses. Serves the fuckers right, they treated we farang like anathema the past five years with their racist policies exploiting us, so eat shit, Somchai, sum num fucking na.

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    Hmmm.

    Coronavirus: South Korean woman travelling home from Thailand tests positive for virus


    SEOUL - A South Korean woman returning home after a trip to Thailand has been infected with a strain of coronavirus that has killed over 400 people in central China's Wuhan city.

    The patient is a 42-year-old woman who arrived in South Korea on Jan 19 and started feeling chills on Jan 25, the Korea Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) revealed on Tuesday (Feb 4), the Yonhap news agency reported.


    Coronavirus: South Korean woman travelling home from Thailand tests positive for virus, East Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times

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    Fails to mention which parts of Thailand she was in.


    At least 6 days in Korea before feeling unwell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Fails to mention which parts of Thailand she was in.


    At least 6 days in Korea before feeling unwell.
    Who gives a fuk where in Thailand she was - the important information is: where was she staying in Korea for 6 days before getting sick?

    &, after 6 days of treatment in a decent Korea medical centre her condition did not improve... Not good. Thailand and Korea might soon be fighting out second place on the death toll chart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Who gives a fuk where in Thailand she was
    Mr. Selfish Me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Mr. Selfish Me.
    ...

    I'm getting older, my immune system isn't what it once was, so let's hope she was in Seoul or Busan (far away from me)(and with good medical facilities).

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