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    Curfew from the 26th.

    7pm - 7am.

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    AID FROM CHINA AND RUSSIA :
    How selfless are Europeans?

    China and Russia react to the emergency in Europe faster than many EU members and help. That will not be without consequences.

    It is a nice sign of cross-border neighborly cooperation in crisis and need, which the state government has now set in Stuttgart: Seriously ill Corona patients from Alsace are treated in hospitals in Baden-Württemberg, because there are (still) life-supporting devices available. These patients therefore do not need to be flown in the French southwest with military aircraft, but only have to undertake the comparatively short but hopefully saving journey over the Rhine.

    This is also a nice sign because there haven't been too many of them so far. The reality is usually less selfless than the European partnership, which is evoked in contracts and speeches on anniversaries. Those who have received cross-border aid will certainly remember it with gratitude after the pandemic.

    Italy could feel more connected to China and Russia in the future

    This also applies to Italy, which has been hit so hard by Covid-19 so far. Deliveries of medical equipment have already arrived from China, now the dispatch of "eight mobile brigades" with virologists and doctors from Russia has been announced. Since many Italians feel that they are being abandoned by their European partners, not least by Germany - whether that is justified or not - the Chinese and Russian aid will not fail to have an effect.

    This aid also conveys a political message: While European aid to an EU core country and NATO member, in whose particularly affected regions hospitals and medical staff have long since reached the limits of resilience, is apparently not the best, the communist response China and the authoritarian government ruled on the Italian emergency. Whether they offered their help themselves or were asked for help, Italy's relationship with these two countries will probably be different in the future than before. Also to his "old" partners?

    China und Russland: Wie selbstlos sind die Europaer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Curfew from the 26th.

    7pm - 7am.
    Link Lulu, Link.

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    I wonder how much of that will get trousered.

    BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand’s cabinet on Tuesday approved additional stimulus measures worth 107 billion baht (2.80 billion pounds) in a bid to mitigate the impact of the coronavirus outbreak.

    The measures include cash handouts, soft loans, emergency loans, tax breaks, Deputy Prime Minister Somkid Jatusripitak told reporters after a cabinet meeting.

    Earlier on Tuesday, Thailand reported 106 new coronavirus cases and 3 more deaths, taking the total to 827 cases and 4 deaths.


    Thailand approves $3.3 billion stimulus to ease coronavirus impact - Reuters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Curfew from the 26th.
    I'm hearing the same thing.

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    ประกาศ 'พ.ร.ก.ฉุกเฉิน' ! มีผล 26 มี.ค. จับตา 'เคอร์ฟิว' คุมเข้มโควิด-19

    ประกาศ 'พ.ร.ก.ฉุกเฉิน' ! มีผล 26 มี.ค. จับตา 'เคอร์ฟิว' คุมเข้มโควิด-19

    Announcement of 'Emergency Decree'! Effective 26 March. Keep an eye on 'curfew' to control Covid-19.

    "Gen. Prayut" the Prime Minister announced "Emergency Decree" effective March 26. Keep an eye on the curfew to control the epidemic, Covid-19.
    On March 24 at 2 pm at the Government House. Gen. Prayut Chan-ocha, Prime Minister and Defense Minister Said after the chair of the Cabinet meeting through the video conference system that an important agenda is the second phase of measures to address the issues affected by the situation.


    ^ Google translate.
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    Breaking News! Thai PM Announces an Emergency Decree to be Enforced on Mar. 26

    The emergency decree will allow the Prime Minister to enforce a curfew, limiting access to certain areas, etc. However, PM Prayut did not mention a curfew in the announcement but said that the enforcement would increase its limitation and intensity depending on the situation of the coronavirus outbreak.

    Breaking News! Thai PM Announces an Emergency Decree to be Enforced on Mar. 26 • ข่าวหุ้นธุรกิจออนไลน์



    Breaking News! Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha declares an emergency decree, effective March 26

    Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha has declared an emergency decree, to be put into effect on March 26 in order to curb the spread of Covid-19 in Thailand.

    Breaking News: Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha declares an emergency decree, effective March 26 - Pattaya Mail

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    ^ Ok...but a curfew doesn't make much sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    ^ Ok...but a curfew doesn't make much sense.
    ...*cough*...imposing an alternative notion of "sense" on locals is a Sisyphean challenge...better to couch all emergency actions in terms of Thainess...

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    Thai PM announces Emergency Decree, comes into effect on March 26



    The Thai PM has today announced an Emergency Decree for Thailand. Under the decree, the Prime Minister will have sole authority in implementing policies to combat the Covid-19 outbreak in the Kingdom. The PM will work with the Centre for Resolution of Emergency Situations. The centre will meet daily at 9.30am each day to monitor the epidemic and take necessary actions.

    The decree comes into effect on March 26, 2020.

    In his televised announcement at Government House, Gen Prayut said new requirements to control the disease would be enforced.

    This is a translation of the Emergency Decree declared this afternoon. The translation has been done to provide a quick guide of the intentions. We will publish the government’s official English translation as soon as it becomes available. In the meantime this is a guide only….


    On March 24, 2020, Gen. Prayut Chan-o-cha, Prime Minister of Thailand and Minister of Defense.

    Announcement of the Cabinet’s resolution issuing the Emergency Decree on Government Administration in Emergency Situations 2005 to control the outbreak of Covid-19 virus infection.

    In accordance with Article 9, in the event that it is necessary to resolve an emergency situation to end immediately or to prevent a more serious incident, the Prime Minister has the power to issue regulations.

    Level 1 – general emergency situations.

    No one may leave the home within the specified period. Unless authorised by a competent official. The current news says that the curfew will be specified at 19.00-07.00 hrs (7pm-7am).
    – Prohibiting assembly or mingling anywhere.
    – prohibiting the use of transportation routes or the use of vehicles Or stipulating conditions for the use of transportation routes or the use of vehicles
    Prohibiting the use of buildings. Or enter or be in any place.

    – To evacuate people from the designated area for the safety of the said people. Or prohibiting anyone from entering the designated area.

    (1) No person may leave the dwelling place within the specified period. Except with permission from a competent official or an exempt person.
    (2) No assembly or mobilisation at any place or any act which instigates unrest
    (3) Prohibiting the publication of news or distribution or distribution of books, publications or any other media which contains messages which may cause people to be afraid, or intentionally distort information and cause misunderstanding in an emergency situation.
    (4) Prohibiting the use of transportation routes or the use of vehicles. Or stipulating conditions for the use of transportation routes or the use of vehicles.
    (5) Prohibiting the use of buildings Or enter or be in any place.
    (6) To evacuate the people from the designated area for the safety of the said people or prohibiting anyone from entering the designated area Level

    Critical emergency situations
    – The authority shall have the power to arrest and control any person suspected to be a co-offender in an emergency situation. As is necessary to suppress the violence without delay.
    – The authority shall have the power to issue an order calling any person to conduct a report or in for questioning.
    – The official shall have the power to issue an order to seize or retain, consumer goods, chemicals or any other objects.
    – The authority shall have the power to issue an order to search, demolish or destroy any building or obsitcal if needed.
    – The authority shall have the power to issue an order prohibiting anyone to leave the Kingdom.
    – Issue orders to use military force for Serious events or an emergency situation to sustain and minimise the level of damage.

    Thai PM announces Emergency Decree, comes into effect on March 26 | The Thaiger
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    Prohibiting the use of buildings. Or enter or be in any place.
    That's helpful.

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    3.3 billion is a pittance for 60 million people

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    ...^^^Presumably, the BTS will not start running before 7am so early starts at CW are out...that also means the supermarkets, pharmacies and convenience stores will have to close well before 7pm to allow staff to return home. I wonder if anyone, anyone at all, has thought this through...

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    3.3 billion is a pittance for 60 million people
    Or what's left of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Breaking News! Thai PM Announces an Emergency Decree to be Enforced on Mar. 26

    The emergency decree will allow the Prime Minister to enforce a curfew, limiting access to certain areas, etc. However, PM Prayut did not mention a curfew in the announcement but said that the enforcement would increase its limitation and intensity depending on the situation of the coronavirus outbreak.

    Breaking News! Thai PM Announces an Emergency Decree to be Enforced on Mar. 26 • ข่าวหุ้นธุรกิจออนไลน์



    Breaking News! Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha declares an emergency decree, effective March 26

    Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha has declared an emergency decree, to be put into effect on March 26 in order to curb the spread of Covid-19 in Thailand.

    Breaking News: Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha declares an emergency decree, effective March 26 - Pattaya Mail
    Anyone, what difference between an emergency decree and a whimsical decree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    will have to close well before 7pm to allow staff to return home.
    Yes, an immediate thought, presumably each business will make managerial decisions on which staff can leave at what time based on their commute home.


    Commuting at 18:30 should be fun.

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    No "mingling" either.

    "to interact with other human beings; "

    There's always the Thai dogs and bitches.

    Nev needs send another note to "management, re:

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    (3) Prohibiting the publication of news or distribution or distribution of books, publications or any other media which contains messages which may cause people to be afraid, or intentionally distort information and cause misunderstanding in an emergency situation.
    No more "porridge" nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    I wonder if anyone, anyone at all, has thought this through...
    New in Thailand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    3.3 billion is a pittance for 60 million people
    Yep, maybe delaying them climbing over the walls for around a day or so..

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    It's official:

    Thailand to declare state of emergency over COVID-19


    Thailand to declare state of emergency over COVID-19 - World - Chinadaily.com.cn

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...^^^Presumably, the BTS will not start running before 7am so early starts at CW are out...that also means the supermarkets, pharmacies and convenience stores will have to close well before 7pm to allow staff to return home. I wonder if anyone, anyone at all, has thought this through...
    It does mention exemptions. Presumably essential staff will be issued with the necessary paperwork.

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    Well, it seems like the projections I've been consistently using, which the usual muppets on here were call ridiculous and calling scare-mongering, were massively on the low side...



    Even if Europe slows down now (which it may or may not), the US is on the increase (and that'll be dramatic over the next couple of weeks), both will likely be dwarfed by India (currently showing 500 cases) and South Africa (currently showing 400 cases)/Africa generally.

    We're gonna be at 500,000+ cases by the end of March and if April is the month that India and Africa take off then that might mean 1,000,000 infected, within 4 months.

    SARS had 80,000 cases in about 9 months then pretty much ended - I hope you idiots who were claiming it was worse than Covid-19 (never mind the inane common-flu idiocy...) will finally shut up, but you won't, you haven't, you keep on trolling...

    When the likes of India and Africa take off, with the nature of this virus and the need for ICU units (which simply are not available in suitable numbers in Europe nevermind India and Africa), the deaths will be massive, and most will probably not be noted as Covid-19 as test kits won't be available and overwhelmed health services simply won't be able to detail them.
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    Anyone who has been to India will know that's true.

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    Darwin Strikes...

    'Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure': Woman whose husband died after ingesting chloroquine warns the public not to 'believe anything that the president says'
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    Business InsiderMarch 24, 2020, 8:39 AM GMT+7




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    • The wife of an Arizona man who died after ingesting chloroquine phosphate to protect himself from the coronavirus warned the public on Monday not to "believe anything that the president says" and rely on doctors instead.
    • "We saw Trump on TV — every channel — and all of his buddies and that this was safe," the woman, who is in critical care after taking the drug with her husband, told NBC News' Vaughn Hillyard. "Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure."
    • The president has repeatedly touted chloroquine as a "very powerful" treatment against coronavirus and falsely claimed it was approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
    • Asked what her message is to the public after what she and her husband went through, the woman told NBC News, "Oh my God, don't take anything. Don't believe anything that the president says and his people ... call your doctor."
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    The wife of an Arizona man who died after ingesting chloroquine phosphate to protect himself from the coronavirus spoke out on Monday to warn the public not to "take anything" or "believe anything" without speaking to a healthcare professional.

    "We saw Trump on TV — every channel — and all of his buddies and that this was safe," the woman told NBC News' Vaughn Hillyard, referring to President Donald Trump. "Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure."

    NBC News reported that the man, 68, and his wife, 61, both took chloroquine to guard against the novel coronavirus, which causes a potentially fatal disease known as COVID-19. It's not clear how much chloroquine the man ingested, and Banner Health said he and his wife ingested a version of the chemical that's used to clean aquariums.

    Both individuals needed to seek medical care within half an hour; the woman is currently in critical condition and the man eventually died.
    Chloroquine is used to treat malaria, but there is no conclusive evidence that it is effective against the coronavirus, which the World Health Organization declared a pandemic earlier this month.

    However, the president repeatedly touted the drug as a "very powerful" treatment for the disease and falsely claimed it had been approved by the Food and Drug Administration.

    "It's shown very encouraging — very, very encouraging early results," Trump said last week. "And we're going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately. And that's where the FDA has been so great. They — they've gone through the approval process; it's been approved. And they did it, they took it down from many, many months to immediate. So we're going to be able to make that drug available by prescription or states."

    The FDA came out with a statement after Trump's comments saying it had not approved chloroquine for the coronavirus and that much more research had to be done.

    "Did you at any point hear that the FDA had not approved of it for coronavirus purposes?" Hillyard asked the woman.
    "Yeah," she said. "But, you know, they kept saying that it was approved for other things."

    Asked what her message to the American public is after what she and her husband went through, the woman told NBC News, "Oh my God, don't take anything. Don't believe anything that the president says and his people ... call your doctor."

    "Please educate the people," she added, according to audio of the conversation that Hillyard posted to Twitter. "It feels like, like my heart is broken and it'll never mend. It's just broke, dead. Like my husband. My husband is 68. We're healthy. No underlying — no diabetes or lung issues. Nothing."
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