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    What happens if I catch the virus?

    So far, most of the people outside China who have contracted coronavirus have had a mild form of the disease.
    "It doesn't look like it is going to cause severe disease in large numbers, but it will in small numbers," Professor Mackay says.
    While this coronavirus, formally known as COVID-19, is in the same family as SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome), it is proving less deadly.


    The new virus has a death rate below 2 per cent, while the SARS fatality rate was around 10 per cent.
    That means even though many people might be diagnosed with coronavirus, in many people it will be a moderate illness.
    But, unlike influenza, there is no effective treatment or vaccine for coronavirus.

    The elderly and people with existing health problems are at the highest risk.

    "We may see death amongst the elderly, so we need to be thinking about their care," Professor Mackay says.
    "We need to make sure they have their medications up to date, have food as well, and talk to the care facilities about what its plans are for something like this pandemic."

    As well as following good personal hygiene such as hand washing, experts say we should pay close attention to the advice of local and national public health authorities.

    "They are doing a lot of work behind the scenes to make sure we will be as protected as possible."


    Coronavirus: What happens when a COVID-19 pandemic is declared? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    This puts a good perspective on it:

    Coronavirus Age, Sex, Demographics (COVID-19) - Worldometer

    AGE
    DEATH RATE*
    80+ years old
    14.8%
    70-79 years old
    8.0%
    60-69 years old
    3.6%
    50-59 years old
    1.3%
    40-49 years old
    0.4%
    30-39 years old
    0.2%
    20-29 years old
    0.2%
    10-19 years old
    0.2%
    0-9 years old
    no fatalities

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    Was worth scrolling a bit further:



    PRE-EXISTING CONDITION
    DEATH RATE*
    Cardiovascular disease
    10.5%
    Diabetes
    7.3%
    Chronic respiratory disease
    6.3%
    Hypertension
    6.0%
    Cancer
    5.6%
    no pre-existing conditions
    0.9%

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    The elderly and people with existing health problems are at the highest risk.
    Can I order some and give it to my father-in-law a a gift? ('gift' also being the German word for poison - ironic in this case, really)

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    An anecdote from one of my colleagues. Apparently the Arabic twatterati are chortling over some Kuwaiti who pitched up claiming he had all the symptoms of Covid-2019. They couldn't find any, tested him and he's negative. So they asked him why he would make a thing like that up.

    His reply? "I wanted to get away from my wife for two weeks".


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    An anecdote from one of my colleagues. Apparently the Arabic twatterati are chortling over some Kuwaiti who pitched up claiming he had all the symptoms of Covid-2019. They couldn't find any, tested him and he's negative. So they asked him why he would make a thing like that up.

    His reply? "I wanted to get away from my wife for two weeks".

    Which one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Was worth scrolling a bit further:



    PRE-EXISTING CONDITION
    DEATH RATE*
    Cardiovascular disease
    10.5%
    Diabetes
    7.3%
    Chronic respiratory disease
    6.3%
    Hypertension
    6.0%
    Cancer
    5.6%
    no pre-existing conditions
    0.9%
    I'm not sure we have anough info yet, there is some contradiction to those charts in other studies, and I do not trust the Chinese figures/numbers.

    Nonetheless, interesting tables and they offer some reassurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Nonetheless, interesting tables and they offer some reassurance.
    Yes, thanks for that

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    This puts a good perspective on it:
    These reports about the death rates are nice and comforting but.....

    Has anyone ever thought about the collateral damages ?
    If an outbreak comes "to a theater near you", what will your chances be for example, getting proper care for an appendix operation?

    How many patients will be neglected because everyone is running around treating covid-19 patients?
    Taking care of a covid patient is a very costly, time consuming thing.

    Next patient please.......

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    Lots of "nobody panic but we're updating our work from home policies" type emails going around.

    Which generally means it's time to panic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Which one?
    Bit of a silly question. If you'd really worked in the Middle East you'd realise that polygamy is the exception, not the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    what will your chances be for example, getting proper care for an appendix operation?




    We're not all pussies Herman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Bit of a silly question. If you'd really worked in the Middle East you'd realise that polygamy is the exception, not the rule.
    'Arry, relax it was a joke, but don't go all Cyrille... I worked in the Middle East for two years, did many theads on Muscat trips, Nizwa market, other, you f'in Gooner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    We're not all pussies Herman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    What happens if I catch the virus?

    So far, most of the people outside China who have contracted coronavirus have had a mild form of the disease.
    "It doesn't look like it is going to cause severe disease in large numbers, but it will in small numbers," Professor Mackay says.
    While this coronavirus, formally known as COVID-19, is in the same family as SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome), it is proving less deadly.


    The new virus has a death rate below 2 per cent, while the SARS fatality rate was around 10 per cent.
    That means even though many people might be diagnosed with coronavirus, in many people it will be a moderate illness.
    But, unlike influenza, there is no effective treatment or vaccine for coronavirus.

    The elderly and people with existing health problems are at the highest risk.

    "We may see death amongst the elderly, so we need to be thinking about their care," Professor Mackay says.
    "We need to make sure they have their medications up to date, have food as well, and talk to the care facilities about what its plans are for something like this pandemic."

    As well as following good personal hygiene such as hand washing, experts say we should pay close attention to the advice of local and national public health authorities.

    "They are doing a lot of work behind the scenes to make sure we will be as protected as possible."


    Coronavirus: What happens when a COVID-19 pandemic is declared? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    I wouldn't trust those figures, David, I really don't think anyone knows what's going on in China, but for sure they are trying as before to massage the numbers.

    Would be good if what you say is true, in which case the daily infection/death rates should be on their way down, which doesn't appear to be the case. Would still like some demographics outside of China.

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    So simple maths tells me that infected chinky tourists have been running around Thailand spreading the infection since at least 11th February, so expect more.


    BANGKOK, Feb 25 — Thailand has recorded two new cases of Covid-19, bringing the tally in the country to 37, a senior health official said today.
    Permanent Secretary to the Public Health Ministry, Dr Sukhum Kanchanapimai said the two new cases involved locals—a 31-year-old woman who had close contact with family members who returned from Guangzhou, China and a 29-year-old man, a driver for Chinese tourists.

    Thailand confirms two new covid-19 cases, bringing tally to 37 | World | Malay Mail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    'Arry, relax it was a joke, but don't go all Cyrille... I worked in the Middle East for two years, did many theads on Muscat trips, Nizwa market, other, you f'in Gooner...
    Then you should have no excuse for such a shit joke.

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    Spreading in Italy...

    Italian authorities have confirmed on Tuesday morning that a first case of coronavirus has struck southern Italy and Tuscany.
    A person in Florence and another in Palermo tested positive for the deadly virus. An Italian woman was on holiday in Palermo and is from Bergamo in the Lombardy region, northern Italy which is currently under lockdown.
    The group had arrived in Sicily last week, before the authorities placed 50,000 people under forced quarantine.

    https://londonlovesbusiness.com/southern-italy-confirms-first-coronavirus-cases-as-pandemic-fears-grow/
    Stoopid fucking Iranians. And even more stoopid fucking Turks. What are they doing letting a plane load of Iranian escapees head their way?

    A Turkish Airlines jet carrying 132 passengers made an emergency landing at Ankara airport due to fears that a traveller was carrying the coronavirus, industry website Airporthaber reported.
    The Airbus A330-300 plane, travelling to Istanbul from Tehran, landed at the Esenboğa Airport near the Turkish capital at 10:45 a.m. local time, according to Airporthaber.
    One of the passengers showed signs of having contracted the virus, the news portal said. The person, thought to be a Turkish citizen, is now in quarantine, it said.
    Turkey has closed its land border with Iran and is allowing only remaining Turkish citizens to travel back to the country to prevent the spread of the virus. Twenty-seven people have tested positive for the infection in six Arab countries after returning from Iran, Al Arabiya reported on Tuesday.
    The Islamic Republic has reported 15 deaths from the illness, a figure disputed by a parliamentarian from Qom, who has said 50 people died in the holy city.

    https://ahvalnews.com/coronavirus/turkish-airlines-plane-emergency-landing-coronavirus-fears-report

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    "Experts say a vaccine is approximately 18 months away."
    "“We don’t wish to induce panic food or petrol stockpiling, when for 95% of the population, this will be a mild cold,” he said."
    What does it mean if coronavirus is declared a pandemic? | World news | The Guardian

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    Thailand to implement measures to discourage COVID-19 “Super Spreader”

    BANGKOK (NNT) - The National Communicable Disease Committee’s decision to declare COVID-19 the nation’s 14th dangerous communicable disease will empower officials to impose stricter preventative measures against COVID-19 and will discourage those infected from becoming “Super Spreaders.”


    Deputy Prime Minister and Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul made the comment after the committee made the decision. He stressed that the COVID-19 situation in Thailand is under control, while adding that once the declaration is published in the royal gazette, officials will be authorized to implement public health policies that will prevent or slow down the spread of the coronavirus. These measures may include fines and jail terms.


    The term “Super Spreader” was used by South Korean medical officers to describe a patient who refused to be tested for COVID-19, despite having shown symptoms. The patient was allegedly responsible for a recent surge in the number of COVID-19 infections.

    National News Bureau Of Thailand

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    59 returnees from S.Korea isolated as two new COVID-19 confirmed

    Fifty-nine students and staff of Khon Kaen University have been quarantined at their lodgings for observation for 14 days after two of them were found to have a high fever after their return from South Korea.


    The university administration said the two students were tested for COVID-19 infection at the Srinakharin Hospital in the campus, but their results were negative.


    The administration added that, for safety’s sake, all 59 of them were told to take leave at their lodgings and to remain there for the 14-day mandatory period.


    The administration has also banned its staff and students from visiting China, Taiwan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Macau, Japan, Vietnam, Singapore, Germany Italy and Iran.


    Meanwhile, Thailand’s public health permanent secretary Dr. Sukhum Kanchanapimai disclosed today two new COVID-19 cases, bringing to 37 the number of confirmed cases in Thailand, with 22 of them having already returned home, leaving 15 still in hospitals.


    The new cases are a 31-year housewife, who is currently being treated at Rajavithi Hospital, and a 29-year old man, a driver working for a foreigner, who is being treated at Bamrasnaradura Institute of Infectious Diseases in Nonthaburi province.


    Dr. Sukhum said that the Public Health Ministry will begin trials of the Fah Talai Jone herb (Andrographis paniculata) in the treatment of COVID-19 infection, after laboratory tests in China showed encouraging results that an extract from the herb, Andrographolide, is effective in curbing virus intrusion into human cells.


    The trial will involve ten strong and healthy volunteers, with their blood being tested every 5-7 days to assess the extract’s efficacy in curbing viral activity.

    59 returnees from S.Korea isolated as two new COVID-19 confirmed – Thai PBS World

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    An anecdote from one of my colleagues. Apparently the Arabic twatterati are chortling over some Kuwaiti who pitched up claiming he had all the symptoms of Covid-2019. They couldn't find any, tested him and he's negative. So they asked him why he would make a thing like that up.

    His reply? "I wanted to get away from my wife for two weeks".

    Good joke !
    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Which one?
    Even a better joke !

    Polygamy
    is legal in Kuwait. In Kuwait, nearly 2% of all marriages are polygamous.

    Are we allowed to laugh now Harry ?

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    Well, if you want a virus to spread then Air Crews are ideal; Korean Air in this case.

    977 cases in Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    We're not all pussies Herman.

    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post

    Contenance !!!!

    No laughing or coughing allowed !

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