The COVID-2019 Thread

**Chico** · 19-02-2020, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

We just don't know but an important bit of info. Could be a very small number. Hardly worth a breaking news item.

My point in above post is the media's constant reporting of every wee detail is getting ridiculous as compared to much more significant unmentioned disease deaths.

Fear mongering headlines but reckon it sells to the masses.

Posted this last week,but the scaremongering continues,even considering world health organisation has commended the Chinese on there response.

what do people expect China population 1.4 billion and the most traveled tourists these days,the virus is declining in numbers the Chinese are working there balls off to contain it.

Though the world looks on and the media tries to crush them

**harrybarracuda** · 19-02-2020, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Chico

Posted this last week,but the scaremongering continues,even considering world health organisation has commended the Chinese on there response.

what do people expect China population 1.4 billion and the most traveled tourists these days,the virus is declining in numbers the Chinese are working there balls off to contain it.

Though the world looks on and the media tries to crush them

The WHO are doing their best to butter up the chinkies to try and get them to be honest.

Meanwhile, as I posted above, the chinkies are hiding the true extent of the epidemic from the WHO and everyone else.

Which means tons of useful data as to the ability of this disease to spread; the amount of time people can be infected and contagious without showing symptoms; and the demographics of the fatalities are all being kept from the people that can analyse them.

And you wonder why the media are speculating?

**harrybarracuda** · 19-02-2020, 11:35 PM

Meanwhile, another pretty shit oligarchy, Iran, announced its first two cases today.

Then a few hours later announced that they were dead.

Coronavirus live updates: Iran confirms two deaths, IMF chief issues warning

**harrybarracuda** · 19-02-2020, 11:45 PM

By the way, none of the above means that arseholes like Fox News don't need a fucking slap.

Fox News is pushing a debunked theory on the origins of the coronavirus | Media Matters for America

**Chico** · 20-02-2020, 12:30 AM

Harry, WHO is must likely to blow this up,but they ain't,there reputation is on the line if it became serious and they are holding the line. Which means to me, they believe the Chinese are doing the best they can presently, which if true the cases are declining.

**helge** · 20-02-2020, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Latindancer

I wonder how they're feeding everyone on the cruise ship ?i

Put it under the door and yell ?

PANCAKES

**Airportwo** · 20-02-2020, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by Mendip

What I've never really seen here though to my satisfaction is the demographics of coronavirus fatalities. That's what worries me the most. Is it just the elderly and frail, people who are at the end of their lives, or is it more widespread?

I got this from what i consider to be a very reliable source, writer is a surgeon at Gleneagles in Singapore, makes a lot of sense as to why the virus isn't mutating in other countries as prolifically. is it correct no idea!
After trying to read the pathetic link that Harry posted (he must get well paid!) anything has to be more believable! There's sheep, there's pretty sheep, then there's Harry! Question nothing!

"My classmate's uncle and nephew, graduated with a master's degree and work in Shenzhen Hospital. He is being transferred to study Wuhan pneumonia virus. He just called me and told me to tell my friends: If you have a runny nose and sputum when you have a cold, you cannot be a new type of coronavirus pneumonia, because coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough without runny nose. This is the simplest way to identify. Please tell your friends that if you know more about medical knowledge, you will have more awareness of identification and prevention.

Director Zhenxing informed that the Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed in a temperature of 26-27 degrees. So drink plenty of hot water.
Can tell relatives and friends to drink hot water for prevention.

To prevent Wuhan virus, as long as the human body maintains heat energy, eat more ginger and exercise more, you will not be infected with the virus. If you have high fever symptoms, cover the quilt. Drink ginger soup to increase the body's heat energy. Can prevent infection. No vaccination required. Eat more ginger, garlic, pepper, and pepper.
Eat less sweet and sour and bitter. Don't drink too much water. Don't go to cold weather areas.
As long as the sun is in the virus area, the virus will completely disappear.

**harrybarracuda** · 20-02-2020, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Chico

Harry, WHO is must likely to blow this up,but they ain't,there reputation is on the line if it became serious and they are holding the line. Which means to me, they believe the Chinese are doing the best they can presently, which if true the cases are declining.

The WHO unfortunately have to tug the forelock to people like Chinastan.

Why else do you think they aren't screaming from the rooftops at being banned from going into Hubei?

There is a quite eerie video here shot by a film crew stranded in Wuhan. To think it's a city of five million.

http://video1.sixthtone.com/video/5/0/388.mp4

**HermantheGerman** · 20-02-2020, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by Norton

2,010 deaths. Nothing is it?

Wanna be afraid but without help from media consider this.

"Seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year, according to a new estimate that's higher than the previous one of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths a year."

-You could also consider this:
World population 7,8 billion people and only 646,000 die from the flu.

or

-Russia has stepped up measures to tackle the health risk, including closing most entry points along its 4,200-kilometer border with China and temporarily banning Chinese citizens from entering the country. (never happened because of a flu)

-The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell for a third-consecutive day as investors weighed a stark warning from tech giant Apple. Apple cautioned it does not expect to meet its quarterly revenue forecast, citing slowed production and weakened demand in China as a result of the coronavirus outbreak. (never happened because of a flu)

-Airlines are suspending flights to China in the wake of the Covid-19 outbreak. Below are details (in alphabetical order):
Airlines that have cancelled all China flights

* American Airlines – extends suspension of China and Hong Kong flights through April 24 from March 27 earlier
* Air France – Said on Feb 6 it would suspend flights to and from mainland China for much of March
* Air Seoul – The South Korean budget carrier suspended China flights from Jan 28 until further notice.
* Air Tanzania – Tanzania's state-owned carrier, which had planned to begin charter flights to China in February, postponed its maiden flights.

* Air Mauritius – Suspended all flights to China and Hong Kong
* Austrian Airlines – until end-February.
* British Airways – Jan 29-March 31
* Delta Airlines – Feb 2-April 30
* Egyptair – Feb 1 until further notice.
* El Al Israel Airlines – Said on Feb 12 it would suspend its Hong Kong flights until March 20 and reduce its daily flights to Bangkok. It suspended flights to Beijing from Jan 30 to March 25 following a health ministry directive.
* Iberia Airlines – The Spanish carrier extended its suspension of flights from Madrid to Shanghai, its only route, from Feb 29 until the end of April.
* JejuAir Co Ltd – Korean airline to suspend all China routes starting March 1
* Kenya Airways – Jan 31 until further notice.
* KLM – Will extend its ban up to March 15
* Lion Air – All of February.
* LOT – Extends flight suspension until March 28
* Oman and Saudia, Saudi Arabia's state airline, both suspended flights on Feb 2 until further notice.
* Qatar Airways – Feb 1 until further notice.
* Rwandair – Jan 31 until further notice.
* Scoot, Singapore Airlines' low-cost carrier – Feb 8 until further notice.
* United Airlines – Feb 5-April 23. Service to Hong Kong suspended Feb 8-April 23.
* Vietjet and Vietnam Airlines – Suspended flights to the mainland as well as Hong Kong and Macau Feb 1-April 30, in line with its aviation authority's directive.
Airlines that have cancelled some China flights/routes
* Air Canada – Extended the suspension of its flights to Beijing and Shanghai until March 27. It also suspended its Toronto to Hong Kong flights from March 1 to March 27, but its Vancouver to Hong Kong route remains active.
* Air China – Said on Feb 12 it will cancel flights to Athens, Greece, from Feb 17 to March 18
* Air China – State carrier said on Feb 9 it will "adjust" flights between China and the United States.
* Air New Zealand – Suspended Auckland-Shanghai service Feb 9-March 29. Reduced capacity on Shanghai route throughout April and Hong Kong route throughout April and May.

* ANA Holdings – Suspended routes including Shanghai and Hong Kong from Feb 10 until further notice.
* Cathay Pacific Airways – Plans to cut a third of its capacity over the next two months, including 90% of flights to mainland China. It has encouraged its 27,000 employees to take three weeks of unpaid leave in a bid to preserve cash.

* Emirates and Etihad – The United Arab Emirates, a major international transit hub, suspended flights to and from China, except for Beijing.
* Finnair – Cancelled all flights to mainland China and decreased the number of flights to Hong Kong until March 28.
* Hainan Airlines – Suspended flights between Budapest, Hungary, and Chongqing Feb 7-March 27.
* Korean Air Lines Co. – The national flag carrier suspended eight routes to China and reduced services on nine Chinese routes between Feb 7 and 22.
* Philippine Airlines – Cut the number of flights between Manila and China by over half.
* Qantas Airways – Suspended direct flights to China from Feb 1. The Australian national carrier halted flights from Sydney to Beijing and Sydney to Shanghai between Feb 9-March 29.
* Royal Air Maroc – The Moroccan airline suspended direct flights to China Jan 31-Feb 29. On Jan 16, it had launched a direct air route with three flights weekly between its Casablanca hub and Beijing.

* Russia – All Russian airlines, with the exception of national airline Aeroflot, stopped flying to China from Jan 31. Small airline Ikar will also continue flights between Moscow and China. All planes arriving from China will be sent to a separate terminal in the Moscow Sheremetyevo airport. Aeroflot reduced the frequency of flights to Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou until Feb 29.

* Nordic airline SAS – Extended its suspension of flights to Shanghai and Beijing until March 29.

* Singapore Airlines – Suspended or cut capacity on flights to Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Chengdu, Xiamen and Chongqing, some of which are flown by regional arm SilkAir.
* UPS – Cancelled 22 flights to China because of the virus and normal manufacturing closures due to the Chinese New Year holiday.
* Virgin Atlantic – Extended its suspension of daily operations to Shanghai until March 28.
* Virgin Australia – Said it will withdraw from the Sydney-Hong Kong route from March 2 because it was "no longer a viable commercial route" due to growing concerns over the virus and civil unrest in Hong Kong. (never happened because of a flu)

-The Wuhan coronavirus has thrown a wrench into this well-oiled machine, and the Chinese economy could grind to a halt, dragging down global growth with it. (never happened because of a flu)

-Never heard of any cruise ships that got turned away because of a few flusy's

-Japan recession fears grow as GDP shrinks at 6.3% rate with COVID-19 hit to come (hatschiiee, must be flu season again)

-Coronavirus outbreak: safety measures at major international airports. Following preventive safety measures by some of the major and busiest international airports to prevent the spread of coronavirus (Covid-19) after its outbreak in Wuhan, China, many others initiated similar steps. The coronavirus has spread to 26 more countries in a month, inviting border closures and health emergencies declared by a number of countries. (Imagine doing that when the seasonal flu coes arround.)

etc.

etc.

etc.

Fu*king media !

**Bettyboo** · 20-02-2020, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by Airportwo

I got this from what i consider to be a very reliable source, writer is a surgeon at Gleneagles in Singapore, makes a lot of sense as to why the virus isn't mutating in other countries as prolifically. is it correct no idea!
After trying to read the pathetic link that Harry posted (he must get well paid!) anything has to be more believable! There's sheep, there's pretty sheep, then there's Harry! Question nothing!

"My classmate's uncle and nephew, graduated with a master's degree and work in Shenzhen Hospital. He is being transferred to study Wuhan pneumonia virus. He just called me and told me to tell my friends: If you have a runny nose and sputum when you have a cold, you cannot be a new type of coronavirus pneumonia, because coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough without runny nose. This is the simplest way to identify. Please tell your friends that if you know more about medical knowledge, you will have more awareness of identification and prevention.

Director Zhenxing informed that the Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed in a temperature of 26-27 degrees. So drink plenty of hot water.
Can tell relatives and friends to drink hot water for prevention.

To prevent Wuhan virus, as long as the human body maintains heat energy, eat more ginger and exercise more, you will not be infected with the virus. If you have high fever symptoms, cover the quilt. Drink ginger soup to increase the body's heat energy. Can prevent infection. No vaccination required. Eat more ginger, garlic, pepper, and pepper.
Eat less sweet and sour and bitter. Don't drink too much water. Don't go to cold weather areas.
As long as the sun is in the virus area, the virus will completely disappear.

I mentioned this quite a while ago (was told by Korean nurses). The heat element has been explained to me in the same way as above. Basically, that's why children are less at risk from this virus (they tend to be hot little critters), as wellas women who tend to have a higher body temperature than men). Again, I don't know if it's true, but have been told that this virus does not survive heat well, so just a slightly above average body temperature could stop the virus from affecting you.

**Luigi** · 20-02-2020, 07:53 AM

the Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed in a temperature of 26-27 degrees. So drink plenty of hot water.
Can tell relatives and friends to drink hot water for prevention.

To prevent Wuhan virus, as long as the human body maintains heat energy, eat more ginger and exercise more, you will not be infected with the virus. If you have high fever symptoms, cover the quilt. Drink ginger soup to increase the body's heat energy. Can prevent infection. No vaccination required. Eat more ginger, garlic, pepper, and pepper.

If that was the case, surely 50 million people wouldn't be locked up in their homes and not allowed out, and the numbers of infected and dead wouldn't be as high.

Simply drink hot drinks and eat ginger. Done.

**bowie** · 20-02-2020, 09:02 AM

Come on folks, the correct answer is - "Apple Cider Vinegar" - at any temp.

**Klondyke** · 20-02-2020, 11:07 AM

^added with honey...

**nidhogg** · 20-02-2020, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Airportwo

"My classmate's uncle and nephew, graduated with a master's degree and work in Shenzhen Hospital. He is being transferred to study Wuhan pneumonia virus. He just called me and told me to tell my friends: If you have a runny nose and sputum when you have a cold, you cannot be a new type of coronavirus pneumonia, because coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough without runny nose. This is the simplest way to identify. Please tell your friends that if you know more about medical knowledge, you will have more awareness of identification and prevention.

Director Zhenxing informed that the Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed in a temperature of 26-27 degrees. So drink plenty of hot water.
Can tell relatives and friends to drink hot water for prevention.

To prevent Wuhan virus, as long as the human body maintains heat energy, eat more ginger and exercise more, you will not be infected with the virus. If you have high fever symptoms, cover the quilt. Drink ginger soup to increase the body's heat energy. Can prevent infection. No vaccination required. Eat more ginger, garlic, pepper, and pepper.
Eat less sweet and sour and bitter. Don't drink too much water. Don't go to cold weather areas.
As long as the sun is in the virus area, the virus will completely disappear.

What an utter pile of steaming bullshit. I particularly like the fact that Director Zhenxing apparent forgot that normal human body temperature is around 37 degrees.

**panama hat** · 20-02-2020, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Director Zhenxing informed that the Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed in a temperature of 26-27 degrees.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

normal human body temperature is around 37 degrees.

Fahrenheit perhaps? Hmmm . . . no, that doesn't work either

**Luigi** · 20-02-2020, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Meanwhile, another pretty shit oligarchy, Iran, announced its first two cases today.

Then a few hours later announced that they were dead.

They probably cut down the chances of it spreading by immediately hanging them from a crane.

**NamPikToot** · 20-02-2020, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by nidhogg

What an utter pile of steaming bullshit. I particularly like the fact that Director Zhenxing apparent forgot that normal human body temperature is around 37 degrees.

I was worried that i would become a target when going out to get my sweet and sour this weekend, thanks Nid.

**kmart** · 20-02-2020, 01:17 PM

Dunno if it's been posted already, the Bangkok Post reported that the virus linked to Pangolins.

Chinese researchers said Friday that a pangolin -- an endangered mammal whose scales are used in traditional medicine and meat sold in black markets -- may have been a carrier of the disease that jumped to humans.

China virus toll hits 717, researchers blame pangolin | Bangkok Post: learning

Pretty fecking ironic if so. Pangolins are the world's most trafficked animals, local populations decimated by you know who.

**panama hat** · 20-02-2020, 01:38 PM

^ Yup, whenever a shipment of Pangolin scales is intercepted in Singapore, HK or Malaysia it is mainly in transit to China or Vietnam and then to China.

9 Tons of Pangolin Scales Are Seized in Hong Kong - The New York Times

Singapore makes second huge seizure of pangolin scales in days - Reuters

Singapore seizes record $48.6 million shipment of elephant ivory and pangolin scales - ABC News

Vietnam seizes two tonnes of ivory and pangolin scales | The Star Online

Tonnes and tonnes of the scales - how many of these animals can be left?

**Bettyboo** · 20-02-2020, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

Fahrenheit perhaps? Hmmm . . . no, that doesn't work either

Hey! That wasn't my quote, you cheeky French, German, Dutch, Australian b@£$$£@!

**panama hat** · 20-02-2020, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Hey! That wasn't my quote, you cheeky French, German, Dutch, Australian b@£$$£@!

OI!!!! I am NOT Dutch!!!

(sorry for the mis-attribution)

**Chico** · 20-02-2020, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Hey! That wasn't my quote, you cheeky French, German, Dutch, Australian b@£$$£@!

You forgot Aussie and Kiwi.

**kmart** · 20-02-2020, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

^ Yup, whenever a shipment of Pangolin scales is intercepted in Singapore, HK or Malaysia it is mainly in transit to China or Vietnam and then to China.

9 Tons of Pangolin Scales Are Seized in Hong Kong - The New York Times

Singapore makes second huge seizure of pangolin scales in days - Reuters

Singapore seizes record $48.6 million shipment of elephant ivory and pangolin scales - ABC News

Vietnam seizes two tonnes of ivory and pangolin scales | The Star Online

Tonnes and tonnes of the scales - how many of these animals can be left?

The sad thing is, that the scales of these animals contains keratin which is what they're hunted for; but has no medical value whatsoever.

**Luigi** · 20-02-2020, 01:55 PM

2 dead on the cruise ship now.

Can't be much fun on that.

**panama hat** · 20-02-2020, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Hey! That wasn't my quote, you cheeky French, German, Dutch, Australian b@£$$£@!

Originally Posted by Chico

You forgot Aussie and Kiwi.

Good Lord, you're dense (and I told you, Kiwi at the end of the year. Illiterate as well as dense)

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