Thread: Minimum wage to be raised

The National Wage Committee announced on Friday (December 6) that it will raise the minimum wage by Bt6 for nine provinces and Bt5 for the rest of Thailand, Suthi Sukosol, Permanent Secretary of Labour, said.

Workers in Chon Buri, Phuket, Bangkok, Pathum Thani, Nonthaburi, Samut Prakan, Samut Sakhon and Prachin Buri will receive the additional Bt6 a day.


This will give Phuket and Chonburi the highest minimum wages of Bt336 a day while those with the lowest minimum wages, Bt313/day, are Narathiwat and Pattani.

The Permanent Secretary believes that the adjustment is appropriate for the economic situation. It’s expected to give some balance while also benefiting Thailand’s economy.


The Committee will present the resolution to the Cabinet as soon as possible so that the measure can take effect by January 1, 2020.

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/...ernal_referral

Looks good on paper.
Yet, keen observers will note that the base "minimum wage" and it's cycling extensions aren't practiced nor lawfully enforced.

What can you buy for 5 or 6 baht these days?

Wonder if that applies for the Burmese and Cambodians who do all the hard labor now?

Originally Posted by Neverna

What can you buy for 5 or 6 baht these days?

Half a bottle of M150.
So you save up for two days to get the full one bottle of M150.
Innit.

160-180b p/m, 3 large bottles of beer on payday. Or some nappies.

I presume lower-end companies can legally get around paying minimum wage by offering accommodation onsite, lunches etc, or illegally by telling them to accept it or fuk off and never work in the town again.

Originally Posted by HuangLao

"minimum wage" and it's cycling extensions aren't practiced

Originally Posted by Klondyke

It's not quit true

It's definitely not 'quit' making sense.

You'll have to do more than that to convince that you two understand each other.

Originally Posted by cyrille

It's definitely not 'quit' making sense.

Perhaps the termites are on their beanfeast...

Well..thats fucking interesting. About time we had a poster who doesnt talk bollocks. Green sent

Your usual nonsence.wtf are you on about?

Its not hard to see why the vast majority of Thais are bent and twisted fukers and would steal the arsehole from their long dead and rancid grandmother.

I mean fukos, those wages are fookin shite innit.

Originally Posted by Luigi

160-180b p/m, 3 large bottles of beer on payday. Or some nappies.

I presume lower-end companies can legally get around paying minimum wage by offering accommodation onsite, lunches etc, or illegally by telling them to accept it or fuk off and never work in the town again.

Where these things usually apply would be the ever influential farming/agricultural sectors and the slightly lesser construction trade where everyday common labour is most available and clearly the dominate percentile of working classes [outside of government] - most instance can be exploited without challenge or criticism. There are the number of exceptions, of course.

'Tis wonder why we see so many average folks finding their own way - or attempting to - by going into business for themselves.....in one fashion or another.

Been the age old problem the world over. Prices/costs of most everyday things see a steady increase year after year; decade after decade, yet wages never reflect any such ratio growth.
Employers, of any disposition, are blind/heartless to these factors of life.

Dunno,

I'll give me besty mate The Donald a call and run it by him.

^^^ agree price for a workday in the fields up North reached 300b only recently (for guys, 250b for ladies), it was 250/200 3 years ago. Theses are "normal" wages, subject to bargain for over-performer/sub-performer.
If the worker has his/her on field, there's generally no money involved as it's a workforce exchange (I work on your field and you work on mine)

Here in CM city, workers in shops and companies seem to earn at least 300b, 400b is not exceptional ...

Construction workers seem to earn around 500b as an individual (with at least some skills, able to do concrete or set times...), but most I saw here were working as a team (like a cooperative), the team leader negotiate prices with the builder, the team leader bring as many workers as he see fit ...the sharing method is unknown as it occurs behind the curtain.

Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay

^^^ agree price for a workday in the fields up North reached 300b only recently (for guys, 250b for ladies), it was 250/200 3 years ago. Theses are "normal" wages, subject to bargain for over-performer/sub-performer.
If the worker has his/her on field, there's generally no money involved as it's a workforce exchange (I work on your field and you work on mine)

Here in CM city, workers in shops and companies seem to earn at least 300b, 400b is not exceptional ...

Construction workers seem to earn around 500b as an individual (with at least some skills, able to do concrete or set times...), but most I saw here were working as a team (like a cooperative), the team leader negotiate prices with the builder, the team leader bring as many workers as he see fit ...the sharing method is unknown as it occurs behind the curtain.

Seems to be the current norm in the countryside settings as well, where moderately skilled/unskilled labourers of the construction trades demand above minimum wage standards [B350/B400].....and the foreman/supervisor will take a slight larger cut [B500]. Urban and Rural situations might differ greatly, as lifestyle and cost of living vary.


Adding: collectives and bartering schemes are still very much workable, and viably seen, in today's cash first world.

Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay

^^^ agree price for a workday in the fields up North reached 300b only recently (for guys, 250b for ladies), it was 250/200 3 years ago.

Not really true (this time not quite quite)...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Not really true (this time not quite quite)...

Might come down to varying degrees from region to region.
What will ring true in particular locales might be quite different somewhere else.


Side note: I've always championed getting away from this traditional "day wage" and morphing into a fair hourly wage would be beneficial for employees.
Any such progressive move in this direction will be long to come.

^^ That's the wages applied in wife's village up north (MHS area, on the main road), prices may indeed vary depending on the location...

^ exactly, my wife much appreciated that days working hours were clearly specified when she worked in Farangland in Farang-owned companies, all extra hours were compensated. In Thailand and also in Thai-owned companies in Farangland there always was some extra work to do for free.

Minimum wage increase not to affect product prices: Commerce Ministry

BANGKOK (NNT) - The Ministry of Commerce has elaborated on an increase in commodity prices, saying it is related to many factors in addition to wages. The ministry is meanwhile, set to deploy officials to prevent unreasonable price increases.


On the 6th December, the national wage committee approved a minimum wage increase of 5-6 baht, raising daily minimum wages across the country to 313-336 baht effective from 1st January 2020, pending Cabinet’s approval.


On this matter, the Department of Internal Trade’s Deputy Director General Prayoth Benyasut, said today the Ministry of Commerce is confident the wage adjustment won’t cause an increase in commodity prices, as any such increase must take into consideration other costs such as energy, logistics, raw materials, and currency exchange rates and duties in the case of imported products.


He said no manufacturers have requested an increase in pricing following the new wages announcement, while local commercial affairs offices have not yet come across any increase in commodity prices. The ministry is deploying officials to monitor commodity pricing closely.


The director of Rangsit University’s Economic and Business Research Centre for Reform, Anusorn Tamajai said today this minimal increase in minimum wages won’t have any significant effect on overall purchasing power, but will increase the financial burden on smaller businesses.


He suggested the government implement hourly minimum wages, which should be higher than the daily amount divided into hours, such as 50 baht per hour, while at the same time workers must improve their skills and adjust to technological changes.


National News Bureau Of Thailand

Minimum wage increase not to affect product prices: Commerce Ministry

BANGKOK (NNT) - The Ministry of Commerce has elaborated on an increase in commodity prices, saying it is related to many factors in addition to wages. The ministry is meanwhile, set to deploy officials to prevent unreasonable price increases.


On the 6th December, the national wage committee approved a minimum wage increase of 5-6 baht, raising daily minimum wages across the country to 313-336 baht effective from 1st January 2020, pending Cabinet’s approval.


On this matter, the Department of Internal Trade’s Deputy Director General Prayoth Benyasut, said today the Ministry of Commerce is confident the wage adjustment won’t cause an increase in commodity prices, as any such increase must take into consideration other costs such as energy, logistics, raw materials, and currency exchange rates and duties in the case of imported products.


He said no manufacturers have requested an increase in pricing following the new wages announcement, while local commercial affairs offices have not yet come across any increase in commodity prices. The ministry is deploying officials to monitor commodity pricing closely.


The director of Rangsit University’s Economic and Business Research Centre for Reform, Anusorn Tamajai said today this minimal increase in minimum wages won’t have any significant effect on overall purchasing power, but will increase the financial burden on smaller businesses.


He suggested the government implement hourly minimum wages, which should be higher than the daily amount divided into hours, such as 50 baht per hour, while at the same time workers must improve their skills and adjust to technological changes.


National News Bureau Of Thailand