Thread: Ban on toxic chemicals to take effect on Dec 1

BANGKOK (์NNT) - A meeting of the National Hazardous Substances Committee, chaired by the acting Permanent Secretary for Industry, Panuwat Triyangkulsri, has supported the Minstry of Agriculture and Cooperatives’ proposal to downgrade the status of paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos from Class 3 substances to Class 4.


The National Hazardous Substances Committee considered the information provided by the Ministry of Agriculture and Cooperatives and resolved that there are alternative chemicals that are effective in killing weeds and pests, if the proposed ban on the three toxic farm chemicals takes effect. A representative of the Ministry of Public Health provided the information about toxic chemical residue found in crops. The meeting also discussed the pros and cons of the proposed ban.


Twenty out of 26 members of the National Hazardous Substances Committee voted for the ban on paraquat to take effect on December 1 this year. One member voted for the banning of paraquat to take effect on December 1, 2021. Five members voted to allow its limited use.


Twenty-two members voted for a ban on chlorpyrifos, while four others voted to allow its limited use. Nineteen members voted for the ban of glyphosate and seven others voted to allow its limited use.


The committee supported the Ministry of Agriculture and Cooperatives’ proposal to downgrade the status of paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos from Class 3 substances to Class 4, which will take effect from December 1 this year. The Department of Agriculture is to draft a bill to regulate the toxic chemicals, hold a public hearing and propose the bill to the National Hazardous Substances Committee for consideration in the next meeting.


National News Bureau Of Thailand

Farmers rally to demand delay of ban on three farm chemicals

A large group of farmers, dressed in black, gathered in front of Government House this morning to demand a delay in the enforcement of the ban on three farm chemicals, due to become effective on December 1st, to allow them more time to make adjustments.


A core leader of the group, who declined to be named, told Thai PBS reporters that their demonstration today was not related to a proposal by the Agriculture Department, to be submitted to the National Hazardous Substances Committee (NHSC), asking for a six month delay to allow time for officials to dispose of the remaining stocks of paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos, estimated at about 38,000 tonnes.


Agriculture Permanent Secretary Anan Suwanrat is reported to have said yesterday that the Agriculture Department will consult the NHSC at its next meeting in December about its proposal for a postponement of the ban, adding that he will leave it to the committee to decide whether to stick to the December 1stdeadline or delay the ban’s enforcement.


The protesters plan to meet with Agriculture Minister Chalermchai Sri-on to air their grievances about the ban and then submit a petition to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha.


Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul reconfirmed today that the ban deadline remains, as he maintained that there is no division of opinion among coalition parties over this matter.


Yesterday, Deputy Agriculture Minister Mananya Thaiseth, one of the two movers behind the ban on the three substances, said she was waiting for an explanation from the Agriculture Department about its about-turn, despite its earlier assurance that there is no problem in offloading the residual chemicals.


She also expressed doubt about Industry Minister Suriya Juangroongruangkit’s position on the matter.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/farmers...arm-chemicals/

A large group of farmers, dressed in black, gathered in front of Government House this morning to demand a delay in the enforcement of the ban on three farm chemicals, due to become effective on December 1st, to allow them more time to make adjustments.

Stupid fucking chimps.

U-turn on ban of three farm chemicals angers Bhumjaithai party


In an abrupt about-turn, which threatens to cause a rift in the Government’s coalition, the new National Hazardous Substances Committee (NHSC), chaired by Industry Minister Suriya Juangroongruangkit of the Palang Pracharat party, overturned its predecessor’s decision to ban paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos effective from December 1st.


The NHSC endorsed a proposal by the Agriculture Department for a postponement of the ban for six months and allow the controlled use of the herbicide glyphosate for indefinite period.


The committee also assigned the Agriculture Department to find alternative substances to replace paraquat and chlorpyrifos. It was also instructed it to work out measures to mitigate health threats to the public and any other impacts caused by the continued use of the three hazardous chemicals. The department is to report back to the NHSC within four months from today.


The NHSC’s decision today represents a slap in the face for Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul and Deputy Agriculture Minister Mananya Thaiseth, both members of the Bhumjaithai party which was the main driving force behind the efforts to ban the chemicals.


The Agriculture Department, which is under the direction of Ms. Mananya, completely bypassed her by submitting its delay proposal directly to the NHSC through the agriculture permanent secretary.


In overturning its predecessor’s decision, the new NHSC pointed out that enforcing the December 1st ban would not be realistic until alternatives are found and appropriate measures are put in place to cushion the impacts on farmers, related industries and international trade.


There are about 23,000 tonnes of the chemicals in the country and destroying them will be costly, which would be necessary because some cannot be re-exported, according to the NHSC.


An informed source said Mr. Anutin and Ms. Mananya are very upset with the Agriculture Department for having bypassing Ms. Mananya.


The proposal was reportedly approved by Agriculture Minister Chalermchai Sri-on of the Democrat party, who is known to not fully agree with the ban.


Anutin has reportedly asked Ms. Mananya for an urgent meeting at parliament to discuss the Bhumjaithai party’s response to the committee’s about-turn.


A Press conference is expected late this evening from the party.

• https://www.thaipbsworld.com/u-turn-...jaithai-party/

Thailand Decides Against Pesticides Ban After U.S. Pressure

Thailand backed down on a plan to prohibit three pesticides from Dec. 1 after coming under pressure from farmers, the U.S. government and lobbyists for chemicals companies.




The ban on paraquat and chlorpyrifos will be delayed until June 1 next year, Industry Minister Suriya Juangroongruangkit said in a briefing. Glyphosate -- commonly sold as weedkiller Roundup -- won’t be banned but its use will be restricted, he said Wednesday in Bangkok.

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Stupid fucking chimps.

Doesn't look as if the good farmers are getting it either.
Time will tell.

As predicted, actually the enforcement of this ban on time would have surprised me.

That's a huge loss of face for those who drove this ban plan, will they retaliate or figure out who feed them?
I don't see an alliance shift coming right now but who knows with face issues...

The new chemical to replace herbicides is not a good news, that's not the spirit of the initial proposal.

I also read that farmers would get compensation if the ban occurs, agricultural machines may be subsidised at 90% ...I wonder what kind of machine could take care of the unwanted herbs but they could invest in machines to shred branches, leaves and crop leftovers to nourish their soil..that would partially take care of the air pollution and save on fertilizer...

Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay

As predicted, actually the enforcement of this ban on time would have surprised me.

That's a huge loss of face for those who drove this ban plan, will they retaliate or figure out who feed them?
I don't see an alliance shift coming right now but who knows with face issues...

The new chemical to replace herbicides is not a good news, that's not the spirit of the initial proposal.

I also read that farmers would get compensation if the ban occurs, agricultural machines may be subsidised at 90% ...I wonder what kind of machine could take care of the unwanted herbs but they could invest in machines to shred branches, leaves and crop leftovers to nourish their soil..that would partially take care of the air pollution and save on fertilizer...

In the end, in one form or another, they still are reliant and dependent upon the nasty and controlling convention.

Any positive direction is being missed.

I live in Lao geff but let me give you my take on Thailand. It was formally the land of "mai pen rai" live and let live but under the prayuth junta it just seems to me the thais arent as easy going anymore? In fact i suspect its become downright racist. Quite sad really that 1 asshole can have such a big impact on the whole countRY. Thailands always had a tonne of rules which Nobody enforced ( unless it suits em? ) but now seems they dream up a new law every day? Wierd. Dont think its gonna end well. Just my opinion though

Well it seems that Thailand has pushed ahead with banning these three ultimate causes of Cancer. Well done Thailand

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Well it seems that Thailand has pushed ahead with banning these three ultimate causes of Cancer. Well done Thailand

Link please.

So have the powers that are gonna ban these 3 chemicals come up with a better way to suppress the weeds etc? I just can't see Somchai standing in a field for days on end using a hand hoe. They get little enough for their crops as it is without causing them more expense.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

So have the powers that are gonna ban these 3 chemicals come up with a better way to suppress the weeds etc? I just can't see Somchai standing in a field for days on end using a hand hoe. They get little enough for their crops as it is without causing them more expense.

Does it matter what they get if they die of fucking cancer?

The ban on three chemical pesticides will be imposed on June 1 as scheduled, Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul said on Tuesday (April 28), adding that he did not agree with Industry Minister Suriya Juangroongruangkit’s proposal to postpone it further.

The agricultural chemicals to be banned are paraquat, glyphosate and chlorpyrifos.

Anutin said that even though the chemicals make farming cheaper, people’s health is more important. He also rejected Thai Chamber of Commerce chairman Kalin Sarasin’s suggestion that the prohibition be delayed until December 31.

Meanwhile, Deputy Agriculture and Cooperatives Minister Mananya Thaiset said the ban was necessary, though there are some concerns that need to be discussed with the National Hazardous Substances Committee.

The committee is set to meet on June 30 to discuss substitutions, which the Department of Agriculture was tasked with coming up since the ban was announced last year. The department has reportedly come up with three substances, and plans to send its updated version directly to the committee.

The department has also drafted a regulation on a new approach to production, import, export and possession of hazardous substances, which will be ready for the committee’s perusal by April 29, she said.

As for Kalin’s proposal, the department does not believe he is representing the Chamber of Commerce because the chamber has supported the ban right from the start.

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30386932

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

people’s health is more important.

Are they fcuking serious? Since when did it bother them?

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Are they fcuking serious? Since when did it bother them?

Since they realised the big countries take the piss out of them.

It's all about face, remember?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Link please.

Teach a boy to fish and all that.

Well done Mid Size. You did well

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Teach a boy to fish and all that.

Well done Mid Size. You did well

I just assumed you have the memory of a goldfish and couldn't remember where you saw it.

Which is probably true.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I just assumed you have the memory of a goldfish and couldn't remember where you saw it.

Which is probably true.