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    Quote Originally Posted by reinvented View Post
    Those rankings are always meh. i mean Cal tech is a great school but has a very specific focus unlike Oxford, or Harvard etc.
    5 different annual polls usually give 5 different answers
    Ya good point, Re. There are different types of universities as well that they rank them on. Research universities, technical, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    ^Haha, not even sure, Cy attended Uni, ph.
    Ah well . . . university isn't everything, I guess

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    ^Very good point. Travel is the real teacher imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    Travel is the real teacher imo.
    Still living with your mum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    ^Very good point. Travel is the real teacher imo.
    Well Marylin, you need surgery. Your surgeon has never been to medical school, but he has done an extended trip around Africa. Just as good, eh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    Good to see Canada has 7 universities in the top 200.
    The one I attended is at 134 in the world.
    Yes MarilynMonroe, but having lunch in the Canteen isn't really 'attending'












    ........ and before you get on your high horse, I could have put Dillinger or Luigi or Neverna's name in there.

    It's not directed at you, it's not sexist ... it's just a bit of BANTER.










    ... actually, if it was Dillinger, it would be the plumbing Uni and ...



    it's a known fact that Luigi went to the Hello Kitty Cafe Hongik Uni
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by reinvented View Post
    Those rankings are always meh. i mean Cal tech is a great school but has a very specific focus unlike Oxford, or Harvard etc.
    5 different annual polls usually give 5 different answers
    Bit of a conditioned hoax, ain't it - as most rankings and surveys might be.

    On top of the obsessive yearn for comparative competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    Good to see Canada has 7 universities in the top 200.
    The one I attended is at 134 in the world.

    7th in Canada.
    To be fair I attended two universities in Canada, both in the same city.
    Hereby proving that having a University degree does not impart wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
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    Did your missus attend same uni as moi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Did your missus attend same uni as moi?
    You're a cockroach, innit . . . yes, postgrad . . . she decided on south of the border . . . pffffft

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    You're a cockroach, innit . . . yes, postgrad . . . she decided on south of the border . . . pffffft
    Well, she can be forgiven, tis the the best Uni in Awestrayla.

    I'd say she has good taste, but that doesn't explain you.


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    You and the Ant-man . . . despicable duo . . . and you both had to suffer growing up in Vic and NZ while I had THE city

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    while I had THE city
    The city huh?

    Been there, apart from the harbour it's pretty rubbish. Did you live on the harbour or out west somewhere in the burbs?

    Melbourne is the cultural, food and entertainment capital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    The city huh?
    No, not the city. THE city

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Been there, apart from the harbour it's pretty rubbish. Did you live on the harbour or out west somewhere in the burbs?
    X marks the spot . . . loved growing up there

    Thai universities in World University Rankings 2020-04-jpg

    Still have my parent's house here. Sucked at times as I had to work every Boxing Day, which is also my birthday, for the Sydney Hobart as they alays had a party to see the sailboats go past

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Melbourne is the cultural, food and entertainment capital.
    Hahahaha . . . yea, keep telling yourself that.


    Sydney has everyting . . . including a magnificent harbor and eveything associated with it . . . oh, and beaches - glorious
    (My father lived in Brighton for four years, so please don't try to tell me that Melbourne has a 'beach' pfffft)

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    No, not the city. THE city



    X marks the spot . . . loved growing up there

    Thai universities in World University Rankings 2020-04-jpg

    Still have my parent's house here. Sucked at times as I had to work every Boxing Day, which is also my birthday, for the Sydney Hobart as they alays had a party to see the sailboats go past


    Hahahaha . . . yea, keep telling yourself that.


    Sydney has everyting . . . including a magnificent harbor and eveything associated with it . . . oh, and beaches - glorious
    (My father lived in Brighton for four years, so please don't try to tell me that Melbourne has a 'beach' pfffft)
    Probably just jealous of the folk that have a box. That's my neck of the woods

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Well Marylin, you need surgery. Your surgeon has never been to medical school, but he has done an extended trip around Africa. Just as good, eh!
    Okay, I get your point, but my point being that there is such a thing as being book smart (important for doctors), but being street smart is quite important as well. Travelling opens the mind up to different worlds and cultures that no book can teach you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Yes MarilynMonroe, but having lunch in the Canteen isn't really 'attending'












    ........ and before you get on your high horse, I could have put Dillinger or Luigi or Neverna's name in there.

    It's not directed at you, it's not sexist ... it's just a bit of BANTER.










    ... actually, if it was Dillinger, it would be the plumbing Uni and ...



    it's a known fact that Luigi went to the Hello Kitty Cafe Hongik Uni
    ^Hehehe, I wish I went to that school. Funkadelic. It matches the inside of my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    Okay, I get your point, but my point being that there is such a thing as being book smart (important for doctors), but being street smart is quite important as well. Travelling opens the mind up to different worlds and cultures that no book can teach you.
    Not just doctors. Would you drive a car engineered by a gap year studeny or fly in a plane maintained by a troupe of travelling acrobats?

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    If anyone is interested, my Uni made the top 100, top 70 actually ... bit proud of that.

    Obviously the grades went up after I left

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    If anyone is interested, my Uni made the top 100, top 70 actually ... bit proud of that.

    Obviously the grades went up after I left

    Mine is ranked 13th.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Mine is ranked 13th.
    Show off

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    ^Haha, not even sure, Cy attended Uni, ph.
    Cyrilles degree was bought for a 1000baht on the Ko San Road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Is it really anything to be proud of?

    Mahidol - 601st to 800th in the world; 104th in Asia.
    Mae Fah Luang - 601st to 800th in the world; not mentioned in the Asia rankings.
    It's funny how they act like you should be reverential towards Chulalongkorn uni...

    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Bit of a conditioned hoax, ain't it - as most rankings and surveys might be.

    On top of the obsessive yearn for comparative competition.





    I reckon your experience of places varies a lot from department to department and whether you are an UG or a PG. The rankings always seem to be more about research aspects, yet they're used by undergrads to rate their courses, which they don't seem to do so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Not just doctors. Would you drive a car engineered by a gap year studeny or fly in a plane maintained by a troupe of travelling acrobats?
    To be honest, I would rather drive a vehicle engineered by time-served apprentices and experienced technicians than a fresh graduate engineer. Some of the engineers I've encountered (including ones with PhDs), even in august institutions really make much of their paper reputation, but present an actual problem to them, and watch them flap, snap, and panic. I wouldn't rule out the acrobats either.

    For a lot of people, after they get through a degree, they have start from scratch anyway to learn how to do a job that their piece of paper says they're really clever at, but that they can't really do. Though some of them are like necessities for access to certain jobs.

    I wish I hadn't bothered really, there are plenty of good jobs you don't need a degree for. I originally intended to do something completely different, but timing and circumstances made going to uni and doing the courses I did a better short-term option.




    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    If anyone is interested, my Uni made the top 100, top 70 actually ... bit proud of that.

    Obviously the grades went up after I left
    I can't say that attending a particular uni or working for a particular organisation is anything I could be arsed to be proud of.
    To me, they just a logo, some buildings, and some twats, sometimes useless twats; sometimes malicious twats; but still twats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo View Post
    It's funny how they act like you should be reverential towards Chulalongkorn uni...








    I reckon your experience of places varies a lot from department to department and whether you are an UG or a PG. The rankings always seem to be more about research aspects, yet they're used by undergrads to rate their courses, which they don't seem to do so much.



    To be honest, I would rather drive a vehicle engineered by time-served apprentices and experienced technicians than a fresh graduate engineer. Some of the engineers I've encountered (including ones with PhDs), even in august institutions really make much of their paper reputation, but present an actual problem to them, and watch them flap, snap, and panic. I wouldn't rule out the acrobats either.

    For a lot of people, after they get through a degree, they have start from scratch anyway to learn how to do a job that their piece of paper says they're really clever at, but that they can't really do. Though some of them are like necessities for access to certain jobs.

    I wish I hadn't bothered really, there are plenty of good jobs you don't need a degree for. I originally intended to do something completely different, but timing and circumstances made going to uni and doing the courses I did a better short-term option.






    I can't say that attending a particular uni or working for a particular organisation is anything I could be arsed to be proud of.
    To me, they just a logo, some buildings, and some twats, sometimes useless twats; sometimes malicious twats; but still twats.

    Healthy for the digestion, Nemo.

    Yet, most won't be accustomed to reasoned critiques, questioning, and challenging of the deeply standard conditioned convention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo View Post



    To be honest, I would rather drive a vehicle engineered by time-served apprentices and experienced technicians than a fresh graduate engineer. Some of the engineers I've encountered (including ones with PhDs), even in august institutions really make much of their paper reputation, but present an actual problem to them, and watch them flap, snap, and panic. I wouldn't rule out the acrobats either.

    For a lot of people, after they get through a degree, they have start from scratch anyway to learn how to do a job that their piece of paper says they're really clever at, but that they can't really do. Though some of them are like necessities for access to certain jobs.

    I wish I hadn't bothered really, there are plenty of good jobs you don't need a degree for. I originally intended to do something completely different, but timing and circumstances made going to uni and doing the courses I did a better short-term option.





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    I agree on this. I find experience is the best teacher even for doctors. The reason I say that is when I went to a high end clinic in Beiiing for an ailment, the doctor was asking my symptoms and looking at a book online. I swear I got the wrong diagnosis and/or meds for what I may have had. They were robotic and I could tell many of them were new grads. I'd take an old doctor with experience anyday over a new graduate. Doctors aren't taught much about nutrition either, so it is pointless to talk to them about anything related.

    Also, there are many people that I know that went to college and have a good job in the trades or worked their way up in the business world by hard work. In Canada, you have community college programs that are 1-3 years (and much cheaper), and then university where many students are now coming out with humongous debt that they have a hard time paying off or never pay off and default on.

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