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    Elon Musk say`s single white guy visiting Thailand for 30 years is pedo.....

    Elon Musk has escalated his baseless attacks against a British diver, claiming without evidence that the man who helped rescue children from a cave in Thailand was a “child rapist” in an email to a reporter.
    Musk called Unsworth a “single white guy from England who’s been traveling to or living in Thailand for 30 to 40 years”, alleging that he had moved to Chiang Rai “for a child bride who was about 12 years old at the time”. He asserted that the city was “renowned for child sex-trafficking”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/sep/04/elon-musk-claims-diver-in-thai-cave-rescue-is-child-rapist-without-evidence

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    Musk calling the guy a "child rapist" now. The guy appears to be unraveling..?

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gen...rai-cave-diver

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Musk calling the guy a "child rapist" now. The guy appears to be unraveling..?

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gen...rai-cave-diver
    Unravelling or was he told something when he was here? Just putting the question out there. I note, too, that the media is still up-reputationing Unsworth as a rescue diver. Nobody disputes he turned up with maps and got the Brit rescue divers called in, kudos to him for that, but he never dived during the rescue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Unravelling or was he told something when he was here? Just putting the question out there. I note, too, that the media is still up-reputationing Unsworth as a rescue diver. Nobody disputes he turned up with maps and got the Brit rescue divers called in, kudos to him for that, but he never dived during the rescue.
    He made the claims without a shred of physical evidence to back them up. I now notice he is accusing Unsworth of having a child bride. His girlfriend is 40 years old and has been with him for 7 years. He is so rich that losing a few grand in court means nothing to him. That is why he is lashing out and accusing Vern of every stereotype he can think off. Musk is very thin skinned and seems to have a meltdown at any criticism or flak directed towards him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    He made the claims without a shred of physical evidence to back them up.
    Where does he think he is?

    TD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    He made the claims without a shred of physical evidence to back them up. I now notice he is accusing Unsworth of having a child bride. His girlfriend is 40 years old and has been with him for 7 years. He is so rich that losing a few grand in court means nothing to him. That is why he is lashing out and accusing Vern of every stereotype he can think off. Musk is very thin skinned and seems to have a meltdown at any criticism or flak directed towards him.
    I accept all of that. And I am certainly not making allegations against Vern (except the allegation he was not a rescue diver).
    Nonetheless, the media bias and Musk's intelligence make me not jump on the "Musk is an idiot who spouts rubbish" bandwagon.
    Keeping an open mind.
    If there is a defamation suit outside of Thailand, Vern had better be sure there is not a shred of truth in Musk's claims, because in any court (other than Thailand's) a defamation suit will depend on the truth of the defamatory claim.
    Vern's current 7 year relationship may not refute what he was up to 20 years ago or even 8 years ago. It's reasonable to say that.

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    Very much get the sense that Musk is moving slowly and inexorably toward becoming a cautionary tale.

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    ^Maybe Asperger's or slightly autistic.? Genius, but with the social skills of a Chimp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    I accept all of that. And I am certainly not making allegations against Vern (except the allegation he was not a rescue diver).
    Nonetheless, the media bias and Musk's intelligence make me not jump on the "Musk is an idiot who spouts rubbish" bandwagon.
    Keeping an open mind.
    If there is a defamation suit outside of Thailand, Vern had better be sure there is not a shred of truth in Musk's claims, because in any court (other than Thailand's) a defamation suit will depend on the truth of the defamatory claim.
    Vern's current 7 year relationship may not refute what he was up to 20 years ago or even 8 years ago. It's reasonable to say that.
    Musk only made the claims after Vern had ridiculed his mini-submarine. If Vern had praised Musk instead would he have kept quiet and accepted gratitudes of a man he believed to be a child rapist?
    Also if you look at the wording of his first accusation he questioned why a middle-aged white guy would live in thailand and then said he must be a ''pedo'' He was pandering to stereotypes as opposed to making a claim backed with solid evidence.
    Musk is not an idiot but I don't believe Vern is either. I doubt Unsworth would drag Musk to court knowing he would be up against formidable top-class lawyers if he wasn't totally convinced of his innocence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart
    Maybe Asperger's or slightly autistic.? Genius, but with the social skills of a Chimp.
    There's definitely something up there.

    I suppose you have to be a little bit 'different' to begin with in order to do what he has done but he seems to becoming more and more erratic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Maybe Asperger's or slightly autistic.? Genius, but with the social skills of a Chimp.
    Very possible.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    Also if you look at the wording of his first accusation he questioned why a middle-aged white guy would live in thailand and then said he must be a ''pedo'' He was pandering to stereotypes as opposed to making a claim backed with solid evidence.
    Certainly one of the more convincing pieces of speculation.

    As I have said, I think Vern is being hailed as the poor underdog and Musk the villain, which may be the case, but until a defamation case, we will not know. I'm simply not jumping on any bandwagon.
    Like the latest Koh Tao rape case: Most people said "Koh Tao, she must have been raped", here, "Rich arrogant guy vs hero...underdog must be innocent".

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    Fair enough.

    It does very much look like musk was just mouthing off though.

    'Underdog' innocent until proven guilty.

    Hope the CR bloke takes him to the cleaners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Very much get the sense that Musk is moving slowly and inexorably toward becoming a cautionary tale.
    A John McAfee in the making

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    Musk only made the claims after Vern had ridiculed his mini-submarine.
    Shame Vern's first name isn't "Jules", really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Shame Vern's first name isn't "Jules", really.
    Jules Unsworth. Hmmmm. Maybe if his surname was Vern...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    As I have said, I think Vern is being hailed as the poor underdog and Musk the villain, which may be the case, but until a defamation case, we will not know. I'm simply not jumping on any bandwagon.
    Like the latest Koh Tao rape case: Most people said "Koh Tao, she must have been raped", here, "Rich arrogant guy vs hero...underdog must be innocent".
    You're really taking the Musk fanboyisn to another level.

    You've been riding the Musk bandwagon since he made these baseless accusations off the back of his worthless sub being called worthless.

    Regardless of any defamation case, no one is guilty until valid evidence is provided by the accuser, the fact you have a homoerotic enfactuation with Musk is neither here nor there outside the possibilty it's clouding your judgement, as for your utterly ridiculous attempt to bring Ko Tao into the equation...ho ho ho!

    But, going on the facts we do know: how probable is it that a man with a predilection for 12 year old girls would find happiness with a middle aged Thai women with a broader shoulders than he has? ....Im assuming you've seen pics of them together. Or is far more likley Musk is just a butthurt gobshite?

    Also, can you explain why Musk apologised for the initial baseless accusation instead of regaining his much tarnished superhero status and the 5% value he wiped of Tesla by providing actual evidence?

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