Thread: China's Mass Detention of Xinjiang's Ethnic Minorities Shows No Sign of Let-up

But no views on the contents of the white paper.

Not that I expected anything else from you but your puerile posts.

Originally Posted by OhOh

But no views on the contents of the white paper.

Not that I expected anything else from you but your puerile posts.

Come back when you have a proper news source and not state-sponsored propaganda.

Originally Posted by OhOh

There ain't many around who do that these days.

...for good reason...

Originally Posted by OhOh

Do you mean the government funded/limited to access unless they toe the government line, MSM, who only print what their masters want.

The Chinese Government produced white paper is direct from the government, no twisting of words by partisan bought and paid for partisan "analysts/experts".

A group, the Chinese government who is and can be held responsible for their actions or here today gone tomorrow scribes of no stature or responsibility except in their, for sale, pen strokes.

Believe who you will, I will continue with my choices of sources whilst ever China delivers on it's promises. There ain't many around who do that these days.

You're using the word "partisan" wrong.

State controlled propaganda could not be more partisan, you muppet.

Originally Posted by tomcat

...for good reason...

Care to illustrate why delivering on beneficial promises is not a good reason?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Care to illustrate why delivering on beneficial promises is not a good reason?

What is beneficial about detention camps and torture?

By the way, any of your chinky sites spoken about the arrested spy yet?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

What is beneficial about detention camps and torture?

Care to share your sources on this rumour?

How about all those detailed satellite photos of the camps ? And the first-hand accounts of people who have been tortured ?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

How about all those detailed satellite photos of the camps ? And the first-hand accounts of people who have been tortured ?

There have been close up photographs showing people sitting in classes, playing sports, eating food.........

There have been "reports" of "friends of friends", there has been an accusation by one of eighteen unofficial UN investigators - however the other 17 reported nothing . Looks a little weak.

MK has a lot of VOA/RFA unproven accusations. But both organisations are proven mouth pieces for ameristan government agencies. Even weaker.

There has also been reports from named government official sources which repudiate the accusations.

I suppose we could grade them by the number of retweets/likes/smily faces...... but then it may be the Russian bot farms we here so much about, or the French/British/amerisstani bots.

Who knows why this topic has gained such interest, YOU?

My words:

Originally Posted by OhOh

no twisting of words by partisan bought and paid for partisan "analysts/experts".

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You're using the word "partisan" wrong.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

State controlled propaganda could not be more partisan, you muppet

You are being selective as to who can have partisan inclinations or who may or may not be a supporter of a partisan's viewpoint.
adjective

Prejudiced in favour of a particular cause.

Originally Posted by OhOh

My words:Prejudiced in favour of a particular cause.

The cause being the Chinky State progaganda machine, you fucking dumbass.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The cause being the ameristani propaganda machine, you fucking dumbass.

FIFYFF.

Originally Posted by OhOh

FIFYFF.

So the chinky government wrote a white paper to promote chinky lies and you call it "ameristani propaganda".

Ooohhhhhh Kkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

OhOh....Google the words "Uyghur camps" and educate yourself by clicking on a few of the very reputable links, and stop being your usual contrarian self.....as Harry has been telling you for so long : you just look idiotic.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Google the words "Uyghur camps"

Ah, I see you use the proven ameristani propaganda search engine to serve up your facts. Very noble of you.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So the chinky government wrote a white paper to promote chinky lies and you call it "ameristani propaganda".

As I pointed out to LD, if you are selective of your sources you will obtain tainted "facts". Look beyond your "approved" sources and form your own opinion as to who is presenting facts as fiction and vice versa.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Ah, I see you use the proven ameristani propaganda search engine to serve up your facts. Very noble of you.



As I pointed out to LD, if you are selective of your sources you will obtain tainted "facts". Look beyond your "approved" sources and form your own opinion as to who is presenting facts as fiction and vice versa.

Translation: BWAAAAAAHHHH! YOU MUST BELIEVE CHINKY PROPAGANDA!".

Nobody pretends the People’s Republic of China is an entirely benign power, least of all its leaders in Beijing. Yet, even by the standards of what continues to be a remarkably repressive state, the stories that are emerging from behind the Great Firewall about the crackdown on Xinjiang’s Uighur Muslim population are deeply disturbing and deserve more of the world’s attention.

The one country on earth which should best understand the danger and futility of such efforts has reportedly set up “reeducation centres” across the length and breadth of its largest province, where political prisoners are instructed to repeat mantras about the greatness of the Chinese state and of President Xi Jinping. They write self-criticisms late into the night. Observant Muslims are forced to drink alcohol.

Persistent dissenters are allegedly subject to torture, including in a terrifying device known as a “tiger chair.” One recent academic study warnsthat anything between several hundred thousand and over a million residents of Xinjiang may have been sent to the camps. The Chinese government has repeatedly denied the existence of any reeducation camps, saying that the people of Xinjiang "live and work in peace and enjoy development and tranquillity.” It has also argued in the past that the “tiger chair” is “padded for comfort.”

Now, you could be outraged by these stories and demand, as some countries have done, that Chinese leaders respect the human rights of all their citizens. But fewer and fewer governments want to take the risk of offending China. And, after all, more than half the people of Xinjiang are Muslims – and who today would really go out on a limb and speak out against the “reeducation” of faithful Muslims? So in Xinjiang, as in Tibet, the world is likely to give China a pass.

But there’s another question that Chinese leaders, and the rest of us, should be asking. And that is: What does this repression mean for China’s ambitions in Central Asia and beyond?

After all, Xinjiang may today be a distant border province. But it occupies a very different position on the map of the world as Xi would remake it. The Silk Roads of the past went through what is now Xinjiang and, if the Belt and Road Initiative ever takes off, it is Xinjiang that will be its hub and heart. The province is intended to connect Central Asia, the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor and Siberia to the densely industrialized Chinese heartland.

China’s crackdown is meant at least in part to pacify the region, which has seen fluctuating waves of resentment and separatist sentiment over the years. But can a province so tightly controlled by the authorities become the crossroads of a continent’s trade?

Uighurs are now largely forbidden to travel abroad – and even those who leave the province for other parts of China are suspect. Visa requirements for visitors from places like Pakistan have been tightened. Fewer will visit; others have found that wives and children across the border have vanishedinto camps.

Trade is more than a few sealed trucks rolling up to a checkpoint set amid walls and barbed wire. Trade cannot happen without people – without the coming and going of traders, without bustling border cities and entrepots where deals are made and demand is weighed.

Perhaps China’s planners imagine that Xinjiang need be nothing but usefully located real estate, a barren land through which trains will thunder, shipping their products west. That is, however, unlikely to happen. For one, Xinjiang does not stand in isolation. Many of its people are part of a larger Central Asian cultural network. The case of an ethnically Kazakh Chinese woman who fled after working in one of the camps, for instance, has become a cause célèbre in Kazakhstan.

The government in Astana is already having to deal with increasing popular anger about the Xinjiang crackdown and is quietly complaining to China. The louder the discontent at home, the less polite its complaints will be. Do Chinese leaders imagine that the Belt and Road can be laid down without the cooperation of Central Asia’s governments or of its people?

Perhaps China imagines instead that continued mass settlement of the province by ethnically Han Chinese migrants from elsewhere in the country will solve the problem. The government has, after all, ensured that the province’s residency rules are the most liberal in China. But that will merely create a social tinderbox that no “smart” police state, such as is being piloted in Xinjiang’s cities, can truly control.

It’s not yet too late for China to realize its errors and to seek reconciliation with Xinjiang’s Uighurs. If the land-based economic corridors of Xi’s imagination are to become a reality, then China will need to build a peaceful and secure Xinjiang that’s integrated effectively with its neighbors. A police state full of brutal reeducation camps will merely provoke a terrifying backlash – and the Belt and Road will be among the casualties.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-and-road-plan

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Translation: BWAAAAAAHHHH! YOU MUST BELIEVE ameristani PROPAGANDA!".

FIFY.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-and-road-plan

Well we all trust your source for a factual opinion.

Originally Posted by OhOh

FIFY.



Well we all trust your source for a factual opinion.

Who is "we"?

You're the only snivelling chinky sychophant I see here.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You're the only snivelling chinky sychophant I see here.

Do I get a red star medal to wear? How about an "Honorable Gentleman" prefix?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Do I get a red star medal to wear? How about an "Honorable Gentleman" prefix?

How about "snivelling chinky sycophant"?

Originally Posted by OhOh

FIFY, "Honorable snivelling chinky sycophantic gentleman". I'll allow you to decide when the addition of "The Right" prefix use is warranted.

OK?

The only word I'd use with 'right' is 'tosspot'.

...^555...