Thread: Jealous husbands the biggest culprits in spousal murders, study finds

HUSBANDS WERE the killers in most of the murders committed by spouses last year, a senior official at the Women and Men Progressive Movement Foundation said yesterday.


Jaree Srisawat said: “In 117 cases, we have found that husbands murdered their wives in 84 such cases and related persons in 17 others.”

She added that in the remaining cases, wives were the murderers.

She was referring to statistics that were based on stories that appeared in 13 major newspapers in Thailand last year.


“Most of the wife killings took place because husbands were jealous or became estranged,” Jaree said.

She presented the findings at a forum held to address the problem of domestic violence.
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A 33-year-old woman told the forum that she had endured assaults for more than seven years in the hope that her abusive husband would one day change.

“But I was wrong,” she said.

She said her jealous husband used both verbal and physical violence when he was drinking or taking drugs.

“Battering was common. And once, he stabbed me in the stomach. The injuries were so serious that I spent more than 20 days at a hospital,” she said.

She said every time she still got back to him, but not the last time when he attempted to stab her in the head with a knife.

She used her hand to protect her head and ended up sustaining serious ligament damage.

To end the painful cycle of violence, she took legal action against her ex-husband, who is now serving a jail term for his crime.

“Yet, I still live in fear out of worry that once he walks out of jail he will re-start the cycle,” she said.

Speaking at the same forum, Thai Health Promotion Foundation’s deputy manager Dr Bandit Sornphaisarn said there was a significant link between alcohol consumption and crimes.

“More than half of those younger than 25 years old said they committed the crimes after drinking,” he said.

He was referring to a survey of 880 prisoners who were convicted of physical assaults and murders.

Bandit said a 2015 survey by the Centre for Alcohol Studies showed 82 per cent of respondents were adversely affected by people who drank alcohol.

“They feel insecure when there are people drinking around them at a public place,” he said.

“Some have said drinking people also cause loud noises disrupting their rest at night.”


Jealous husbands the biggest culprits in spousal murders, study finds

Close to my room... husband and wife have to fight everyday...I dont know if they love each other or not but they dont finish but always fight...its about jealous...but in my case wife jealous husband....

Was it because of alcohol? I say alcohol.

“Most of the wife killings took place because husbands were jealous or became estranged,”

the Centre for Alcohol Studies showed 82 per cent of respondents were adversely affected by people who drank alcohol.

Originally Posted by misskit

Speaking at the same forum, Thai Health Promotion Foundation’s deputy manager Dr Bandit Sornphaisarn said there was a significant link between alcohol consumption and crimes.

He may be right, but in Thailand the statement has to be seen to be in the vein of "It's the fault of alcohol, not Thai people".
It's never the fault of the person, always the fault of something else.

...and then the 'solution' is to further restrict sales of alcohol, which underlines your point.

Couldn't get a beer with my meal in Siam Square last week...twats!

Managed to resist beating up the missus in revenge.

Originally Posted by misskit

she had endured assaults for more than seven years in the hope that her abusive husband would one day change.

her suffering was her own fault: jail the knuckle dragger after the first assault and look for someone new...

Originally Posted by tomcat

her suffering was her own fault

Yeah, simplistic reaction (but understandable). Women all over the world stay with their abusive husbands; there's a deeper psychological reason, or a multitude of pragmatic reasons, not unlike Stockholm Syndrome, that is not their fault.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Women all over the world stay with their abusive husbands

their suffering is their own fault: take action immediately to stop the assaults or cease the moaning about deeper psychological reasons or pragmatism...refuse to accept victim status and life may improve...

Originally Posted by tomcat

their suffering is their own fault: take action immediately to stop the assaults or cease the moaning about deeper psychological reasons or pragmatism...refuse to accept victim status and life may improve...

That's actually like saying to abused children to do the same.
Intellectually there's a difference, of course, but in practice the ignorance and inability to act is the same.
Factors include culture, education (but even then not all battered wives are uneducated), and psychology.

You're suggesting they're all masochists at some level. They're not. They're victims of circumstances beyond their immediate control.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

That's actually like saying to abused children to do the same.

no, it's not. Adults have agency; children usually don't...

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Intellectually there's a difference, of course, but in practice the ignorance and inability to act is the same

no, it isn't...see above...

Originally Posted by Maanaam

You're suggesting they're all masochists at some level.

I am always wary of the word "all"...

^ OK Tom. Take the first two quotes together as the sentences were meant to be taken. Don't be disingenuous or pseudo-clever with me.
Children and adults obviously don't have the same intellectual abilities. The point being that these women are as children without the ability to make a sensible judgement AND act upon it. Obviously, unless they are all or mainly masochists. Why? I don't know, but it's clear that they're not all masochists (cf the third quote), and a sensible person would not suggest that most of them are masochists. Some people would believe few are masochists but helpless victims
There's clearly a social/cultural/psychological thing at play here (or a combination of all three).
Explain Stockholm Syndrome. Why would a kidnap victim end up supporting, even loving their kidnapper?

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Don't be disingenuous or pseudo-clever with me

should I stop breathing, too?

Originally Posted by Maanaam

these women are as children without the ability to make a sensible judgement AND act upon it

horribly condescending...

Originally Posted by Maanaam

There's clearly a social/cultural/psychological thing at play here

undeniably...you've definitely covered the bases...

I once asked an ex GF whom was previously married why she had divorced her husband. She told me he came home drunk one night and bashed her so she left him, returned the following morning and collected her things and never saw him again. She had a job and no children so that made it easier for her than some other woman. But she realised that to put up with it would only invite the same thing again.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

I once asked an ex GF whom was previously married why she had divorced her husband. She told me he came home drunk one night and bashed her so she left him, returned the following morning and collected her things and never saw him again. She had a job and no children so that made it easier for her than some other woman. But she realised that to put up with it would only invite the same thing again.

Yeah, some women can do that. Unfortunately not all can.

Originally Posted by tomcat

should I stop breathing, too?

horribly condescending...

undeniably...you've definitely covered the bases...

Here's where nested quotes are useful.

Don't be a pussy.
Not at all, just observing how it is.
So, covered all the bases...where does that leave the masochist self-sufferers?

Originally Posted by tomcat

horrribly condescending

In fairness, your 'glibly crass' trumped it.

^I'm dense today. Explain.

Originally Posted by tomcat

should I stop breathing, too?

Give it a try - you only live once.

Originally Posted by tomcat

horribly condescending...

You've got yourself a motive - attaboy!

Originally Posted by tomcat

undeniably...you've definitely covered the bases...

...except economic, which is often a bit of show-stopper; and surely denial is at the core of it? two damaged meatsacks getting together to have a self-destructive relationship within a constrained evironment... surely there's a health and safety video or diagram about this... one with swiss cheese in it somewhere?

No doubt Thailand are the first to make this incredible link.

I know a lady here in London, she got married and a few months later, hubby came home pissed and gave her a couple of slaps.
That night, while he was asleep, she stabbed a kitchen knife into his thigh, then held the knife to the guy`s neck and told him if he was ever violent to her again, she would make sure he never woke up. He never hit her again.
After 39 years of marriage and three lovely children, they are both still together.

Originally Posted by ch1ldofthemoon

After 39 years of marriage and three lovely children, they are both still together.

And happily living under the threat of death, no doubt.

Originally Posted by ch1ldofthemoon

I know a lady here in London, she got married and a few months later, hubby came home pissed and gave her a couple of slaps.
That night, while he was asleep, she stabbed a kitchen knife into his thigh, then held the knife to the guy`s neck and told him if he was ever violent to her again, she would make sure he never woke up. He never hit her again.
After 39 years of marriage and three lovely children, they are both still together.

I know this Russian bird that was taking the piss out of her English husband (internet "bride") over a World Cup victory, so he gave her a slap. She grabbed a knife and stabbed him in the chest, fortunately not fatally.

Within a year they'd given up the expat life and returned back to Blighty. Within months she'd fucked off to London to resume making her living whoring.

Originally Posted by GracelessFawn

Having issues with the quote button again.

I think having kids/children will be the deciding factor for a battered women to leave her abusive husband/partner. A mom's natural instinct is to protect her kids from harm. She would not want her kids to see that sort of scenario over and over again. She doesn't want her kids to be traumatize and have all sorts of psychological and/or emotional issues.

Of course the major concern is usually that she has no source of income and, in a country with little or no social safety net, that somewhat diminishes the choices available.

What the cr@p 'news' is this.

Firstly the investigative source is:

"based on stories that appeared in 13 major newspapers in Thailand last year. "

Secondly:

the stories in these major newspapers showed that - husbands murder wives more than wives murder husbands.....


fookin' ell, that is shocking news. Would never guess that is the norm.