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    Lost my sister to it last year. Thankfully, she was well looked after in her final days and felt no pain.

    My heart goes out to this poor woman.

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    There are occasions when letting nature have its way is far better. Years later, I still absorb a lot of pain - don't fight it. Fighting is not necessarily brave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
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    Ms Inthaneth reportedly suffers from such severe pain she travels back and forth to hospital each day for treatment
    Yep. Force a terminal cancer patient to make daily hospital trips for dying pain relief.

    Nice one Thailand.
    It isn't always that way, the hospital my ex worked at had a team of carers who's sole occupation was to drive out to patients who couldn't get to the hospital, always had to have at least one male bodyguard with the nurses because they were getting hit on by drunks, some were even attacked.
    It wasn't me!

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    In summary, there is no box which fits all.
    For me the patient comes first. Carers can have some empathy.
    I speak as a patient who has had copious amounts of morphine in LOS (not easy to come by) and unbearable constipation.
    I have also been a carer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Lennon
    I speak as a patient who has had copious amounts of morphine in LOS (not easy to come by) and unbearable constipation.
    Indeed. Thank gods for Milk of Magnesia.

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    I wonder if there's a way some kind of NGO could step in and both help her, as well as publicise awareness around the country to get women to get checked regularly?

    Everyone is vulnerable to the fear of having a disease like this, and trying to avoid hearing bad news, it can be very hard to even face going for a check.

    The young girl needs support too, it's bound to be a hugely traumatising event for her as well. I don't know what you do about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by John Lennon
    I speak as a patient who has had copious amounts of morphine in LOS (not easy to come by) and unbearable constipation.
    Indeed. Thank gods for Milk of Magnesia.
    A HAMMER & CHISEL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Lennon View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Lennon
    I speak as a patient who has had copious amounts of morphine in LOS (not easy to come by) and unbearable constipation.
    Indeed. Thank gods for Milk of Magnesia.
    A HAMMER & CHISEL!
    Did you hear about the constipated mathematician?
    He worked it out with pencil and paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
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    Hope she get better.
    She isn't ever going to get better.

    Za, she is going to die soon because it's cancer and never got treatment.

    Now it's too late and she is going to die a painful & tragic death.

    It's cancer. That's what it does.
    I know that but I still hope she get better...cancer its a pain as my dad got it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicethaiza View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicethaiza
    Hope she get better.
    She isn't ever going to get better.

    Za, she is going to die soon because it's cancer and never got treatment.

    Now it's too late and she is going to die a painful & tragic death.

    It's cancer. That's what it does.
    I know that but I still hope she get better...cancer its a pain as my dad got it ...


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    I doubt if there's a single member who's life hasn't been affected by cancer, my dad went just before christmas from asbestos related cancer.

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    Can only guess at the pain and fear this poor young woman is going through.
    There is medicine out there that could ease the pain and dull the fear, who could deny it to her?
    No hospice, palliative care in Thailand for those without funds ?

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    My mum passed away aged 33 from cancer when I was 11.

    Awful illness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bower
    No hospice, palliative care in Thailand for those without funds ?
    That's a very good question.
    I know that up here in the North if you get diagnosed with cancer you're basically on your own.
    Are there hospices down south?
    Is insurance available that can cover such care?
    I've no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Lennon View Post
    In summary, there is no box which fits all.
    For me the patient comes first. Carers can have some empathy.
    I speak as a patient who has had copious amounts of morphine in LOS (not easy to come by) and unbearable constipation.
    I have also been a carer.
    Enemas (Union brand) from 7/11 are 9 baht and work a treat, blue wrapper. Small amount of salt water up the arse and you are off. I speak as a sufferer of 40 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bower
    No hospice, palliative care in Thailand for those without funds ?
    That's a very good question.
    I know that up here in the North if you get diagnosed with cancer you're basically on your own.
    Are there hospices down south?
    Is insurance available that can cover such care?
    I've no idea.
    It's the old nonsense about them not wanting you to end up addicted, as if it mattered. That hypochondriac woman on the other channel quite often comments on the lack of paliative care and hospices here. I think you would have to get home unless you want to end up like this poor women. Also, there is the daft karma beliefs they have, you are suffering because that is your fate so you kind of deserve it.

    Could always try something like this, bit of a downer if you are in agony and it's a scam though

    http://silkroad-pharmacy.com/online-pharmacy-faqs/
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    Trips to hospital for pain relief everyday must be the most horrific groundhog day nightmare experience and no use for breakthrough pain that this kind of cancer is likely to cause. She needs Actiq of Abstral (Fentanyl) incident pain relief placed under the tongue and be instantly available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bower View Post
    Trips to hospital for pain relief everyday must be the most horrific groundhog day nightmare experience and no use for breakthrough pain that this kind of cancer is likely to cause. She needs Actiq of Abstral (Fentanyl) incident pain relief placed under the tongue and be instantly available.
    I will ask about that when I see the Doc on tuesday.
    Cheers.

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    As most of you know, i am just at the beginning of my fight against cancer. Its scary enough with excellent health care, i cannot imagine what its like without. My heart goes out to this lady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101
    I will ask about that when I see the Doc on tuesday.
    Cheers.
    No have.

    Morphine is basically all you'll find here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101
    I will ask about that when I see the Doc on tuesday.
    Cheers.
    No have.

    Morphine is basically all you'll find here.
    We'll see. No harm in asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101
    We'll see. No harm in asking.
    Yep. No harm.

    Fent is fucking dangerous shit btw and several times stronger than Heroin. Even in the US you need to be terminal and basically dying or seriously fucked up to get it because dependence is so severe they don't even want to try to ween a person off it.

    Just google the stuff its extreme. Also causes a fuck ton of opioid deaths in the US because the Chinese sell it on the black market and dealers cut heroin with it, and it kills people because its that strong.

    Just a heads up man because opioid dependence is horrible and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101
    We'll see. No harm in asking.
    Yep. No harm.

    Fent is fucking dangerous shit btw and several times stronger than Heroin. Even in the US you need to be terminal and basically dying or seriously fucked up to get it because dependence is so severe they don't even want to try to ween a person off it.

    Just google the stuff its extreme. Also causes a fuck ton of opioid deaths in the US because the Chinese sell it on the black market and dealers cut heroin with it, and it kills people because its that strong.

    Just a heads up man because opioid dependence is horrible and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101
    We'll see. No harm in asking.
    Yep. No harm.

    Fent is fucking dangerous shit btw and several times stronger than Heroin. Even in the US you need to be terminal and basically dying or seriously fucked up to get it because dependence is so severe they don't even want to try to ween a person off it.

    Just google the stuff its extreme. Also causes a fuck ton of opioid deaths in the US because the Chinese sell it on the black market and dealers cut heroin with it, and it kills people because its that strong.

    Just a heads up man because opioid dependence is horrible and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
    My knowledge of Fentanyl l is for all the wrong reasons as a carer , believe me me that when you reach the stage of needing it, addiction is the least of your problems.
    The metastatic tumours on that poor woman's chest means excruciating pain we couldn't imagine. For humanity sake she she needs relief, and it's available if someone makes a simple decision.

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    ^ 100% agree. It's downright inhumane what she has to endure.

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