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    30 km/h Limit for Bangkok Roads with Bike Lanes


    Vehicles using roads with bike lane can speed at the maximum of 30km/h. (Bangkok Post file photo)

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    June 2, 2015

    Vehicles using roads with bike lanes will face a speed limit at 30 kilometres per hour to ensure the safety of all people, according to the Metropolitan Police Bureau (MPB).

    Pol Maj Gen Adul Narongsak, deputy chief of the MPB, said all 88 police stations in Bangkok would survey roads in their responsible areas to determine which ones have the potential to add a bicycle lane. The criteria are minor roads with smooth surfaces and relatively low traffic.

    Once the bike lanes are added, the MPB will require vehicles using the roads to go at the maximum speed of 30 km/h.

    Pol Maj Gen Adul is confident the new rule would not impact road users and the overall traffic flow as the bike lanes would be only on minor roads or some sections.

    Once the bike lanes are in place, the MPB will work with city inspectors to enforce the rule. Violators of the speed limit will face the maximum fine of 1,000 baht.

    The speed limits in Thailand are 60km/h in towns and cities, 90 km/h on open roads and 120 km/h on motorways.

    http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/gene...ith-bike-lanes

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    "Once the bike lanes are in place, the MPB will work with city inspectors to enforce the rule. Violators of the speed limit will face the maximum fine of 1,000 baht."



    They really never do learn, do they?

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    All the bike lanes I've come across are a waste of time and effort. Thai's are too selfish to consider others. Just try using a pedestrian crossing.

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    It'll take generations of conditioning to get Thais drivers to be considerate or even act responsibly on the roads, but this is a good start so expect real change in 100 to 150 years, maybe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinky View Post
    It'll take generations of conditioning to get Thais drivers to be considerate or even act responsibly on the roads, but this is a good start so expect real change in 100 to 150 years, maybe!
    They cannot even learn how to park shopping carts anywhere but the exact middle of the aisles at Tesco or Big C, aren't you being a little too optimistic?

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    for some reason i am reminded of that little joke the BMA play on the tourists, you know the zebra crossing with lights, i think they come with similar fines of a 1000B. never seen anyone stop at those.

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    The guy who killed the Chilean rider got 500bht fine and suspended jail sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Stinky View Post
    It'll take generations of conditioning to get Thais drivers to be considerate or even act responsibly on the roads, but this is a good start so expect real change in 100 to 150 years, maybe!
    They cannot even learn how to park shopping carts anywhere but the exact middle of the aisles at Tesco or Big C, aren't you being a little too optimistic?
    What can I say, I'm a born optimist

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff View Post
    The guy who killed the Chilean rider got 500bht fine and suspended jail sentence.

    That'll teach him !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    All the bike lanes I've come across are a waste of time and effort. Thai's are too selfish to consider others. Just try using a pedestrian crossing.
    This selfish or self-important/involved driving character could easily apply to most of the worldwide driving population.....because it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumocakewalk
    Vehicles using roads with bike lanes will face a speed limit at 30 kilometres per hour
    On most roads in central Bangers reaching a speed of 5km per hour is rare.

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    cycle road rage in london. excellent clip.



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    ^ I'd have pissed in his tank

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    cyclists should accept the inevitable, and that range rovers are kings of the road.

    in thailand, the driver would just have pulled out a gun and put one between the cyclists eyes. a wonderful shouting match though.

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    They really are quite insane.

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    cycle road rage in london
    ... the supreme irony being that there was actually a bicycle lane available for use ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    This selfish or self-important/involved driving character could easily apply to most of the worldwide driving population.....because it does.
    You're wrong mate. We are taught to give way to keep traffic moving. Thais just tail-gate to prevent this. I've lost count of the times I've tried to give way only to be looked at by the other driver as an idiot. Their reaction level is on par with a snail. How many times have you been behind traffic at a red light only to be still sat there after a minute or so while they figure out what to do next. It just seems to be here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    This selfish or self-important/involved driving character could easily apply to most of the worldwide driving population.....because it does.
    You're wrong mate. We are taught to give way to keep traffic moving. Thais just tail-gate to prevent this. I've lost count of the times I've tried to give way only to be looked at by the other driver as an idiot. Their reaction level is on par with a snail. How many times have you been behind traffic at a red light only to be still sat there after a minute or so while they figure out what to do next. It just seems to be here.
    You don't get out much it seems, Prag...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    All the bike lanes I've come across are a waste of time and effort. Thai's are too selfish to consider others. Just try using a pedestrian crossing.
    same retardation out west is washing up on the shores of Thailand

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff View Post
    You don't really expect mommies "special" little boy to wait behind everyone else, do you?
    That selfish childish habit is one of the greatest contributors to the traffic problem here.

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    Agree with the above, I fecking hate the way they drive here, absolutely no respect for any other road user.

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    Bike lane project in Bangkok in trouble after OAG says it is unworthy



    The Office of the Auditor General of Thailand has formally requested the City Council to closely monitor the construction of bike lanes by the City Administration or Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) after finding that the 40 million baht budget it spent to improve six bike lanes covering a total distance of 55 kilometres in Fiscal 2014-2015 was unworthy as daily use of the lanes was less than 10 bikers.
    The OAG urged the City Council to stop giving approval of budget to the BMW for the bike lane improvement on two routes, one around the Rattanakosin Island Route covering 12 roads, and another the Wong Wien Yai Route covering four roads.

    The OAG said it has inspected the two routes where bike lanes were built and improved proved to be useless.

    The request came about after complaints were received claiming that the two routes did not work and was a waste of funds and had low utility.

    It asked that BMA to make a report on its cost effectiveness.

    Complaints include vehicles parking directly on these bike lanes on both the left hand and right hand lanes all along the Wong Wien Yai Route, particularly on Lad Ya road.

    As such bicyclists cannot cycle conveniently or in relative safety.

    Beside bike lanes here are not all connected with many breaks particularly at secondary and main road junctions.

    This makes cycling along the bike lanes here a rather haphazard if not dangerous.

    Meanwhile at the Rattanakosin Island Route, although it is very well designed with bollards separating automobile lanes from bike lanes, but there was no strict enforcement of law in case of irresponsible parking.

    Many motorists irresponsibly park their vehicles on these lanes which forces bicyclists to seek out other locations that are both safer and free of interruption from other vehicles.

    Meanwhile City Council president Pol Sub Lt Kriengsak Lohachala said as the council was asked to report on developments regarding the bike lane project, it therefore has to have answers to the OAG to show clearly where all the funding go so that the project is allowed to proceed.

    He said the questions raised by the OAG reasonable especially with regards to the design of the lanes which are supposed to be exclusively for bicyclists.

    But due to poor design – or lack of forethought; this has proven to be otherwise, he said.

    He said the City Council will assign a team to personally inspect these bike lanes for themselves next month.

    Their main focus will be to see if these lanes have created any inconveniences to residents located along its route as well as determining if they are of any use to bicyclists.

    Upon completion of the inspection, a decision will made to either scrap the entire project and divert the funds to other more practical projects or make modifications to improve its utility.

    As of the present, the BMA has constructed altogether 54 bike routes throughout the capital. They encompass a total distance of more than 364 kilometres.

    During the past 2 years, the BMA have spent more than 54 million for their upkeep.

    But only the two routes, Rattanakosin and WongbWien Yai accounted for almost 30 million baht in renovation costs raising questions over the cost effectiveness and practicality of the project.

    The bike lane was a major policy of the Bangkok governor MR Sukhumbhand Paribatra when he campaigned for election.

    During the campaign, he pledged to make Bangkok a happy city with convenient travel for all its residents, particularly bike lanes.

    But now, his dream might run into a stumbling block after the OAG’s survey and finding with recommendation to the City Council to review the bike lane project of the BMW in the 2017 budget scrutiny.

    Bike lane project in Bangkok in trouble after OAG says it is unworthy - Thai PBS English News

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    This selfish or self-important/involved driving character could easily apply to most of the worldwide driving population.....because it does.
    You're wrong mate. We are taught to give way to keep traffic moving. Thais just tail-gate to prevent this. I've lost count of the times I've tried to give way only to be looked at by the other driver as an idiot. Their reaction level is on par with a snail. How many times have you been behind traffic at a red light only to be still sat there after a minute or so while they figure out what to do next. It just seems to be here.
    You don't get out much it seems, Prag...
    Fcuk off Jeff. This is a cycle lane in Chantaburi Province. They don't give a fcuk for others. You need to get out more Jeff.

    Complaints include vehicles parking directly on these bike lanes on both the left hand and right hand lanes all along the Wong Wien Yai Route, particularly on Lad Ya road.

    As such bicyclists cannot cycle conveniently or in relative safety.





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    Having lived and driven in Thailand for over 10 years - now been back in NZ fully 'deconditioned' for nearly 4 years - I can compare the two styles.

    To my horror, NZ is starting to exhibit the same selfish 'style' of driving as Thailand.
    Of course, not to the same degree, but certainly not the easy going, after you bro, sabai sabai driving habits I experienced in my teens learning to drive.

    I don't think it's anything evil, or deliberate *for most of the selfish acts*
    it's more just casual acceptance of the road manners (or lack of) that annoys us.

    For example, the keep left mantra that was drilled into me as a teenager learning to drive - has since vanished... coonts will gleefully 'police' the right lane at 90 km - and refuse to keep left, because.. well.... they can...

    If the keep left driving rule was enforced and signposted - people will generally abide by that rule... the problem stems with the mass of the public seeing others
    park in invalid zones, or run red lights, or any number of things...

    Thai nature is to follow the herd (probably applicable to Kiwis to a certain extent too) if somchai parks his fortuner in the road to pick up his noodles, you can be sure before long - others will do the same, as the precedent has already been set.

    That's the main reason why it's utter chaos on Thailand's roads... with total disregard for other road users.. lots of small bad habits have become accepted as the norm.

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