Thread: Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

They say the sperm didn't match.

I think the police should not assume just because someone's DNA is not found on or in a victim, that they cannot be the murderer. I have read media reports that state two different semen samples. however.... reports by media are not reliable. Here's the autopsy report as released by CSI LA 90210 , but in Thai. Anyone?

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^ Must have come from a small lab eh?

^ Took me a while to even figure out how to post pics, is
in gallery, can you zoom it up, please?

^ Delete the word "thumb" from the image address.

/thumb_Autopsy.jpg ... becomes ... /Autopsy.jpg

Originally Posted by Sumocakewalk

Now all we need is someone to translate and we're there.
sep

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Earth to toddaniels...come in please...

Originally Posted by septimus

Now all we need is someone to translate and we're there.

Allow me.

"The burmese boys did it. You not understands Thai Culture."

There you go.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

You not understands Thai Culture."

You obviously got the Yasojack free translation.

Translated it says they are dead.

Happy the case is finally solved.

I don't know why the AC bar owners end all this speculation by simply handing over the cctv from the night in question.

The more games they play the more their integrity is brought into question.

All this circus about the dna after the crime scene was polluted is useless now.

What do you think the British police report will say?

That the crime scene was contaminated, the investigation was marred, the suspects were coerced with threat of death, witnesses were beaten others were offered bribes for false testimony, then beaten when they refused the offer. And the Police Chief spent an enormous sum on shares in a company that his daughter is CEO of.

Just another day in the life of the RTP .

Originally Posted by YOrlov

I have just seen a new picture of Witheridge, and it really does appear she was shot in the jaw and forehead.

Another Koh Tao gangster posing shamelessly with his weapons.
I'm sure the rest of the penguin penis mob have them also..

Under this theory, the entire rape scenario was made up which explains the initial conflicting reports, she was raped, but no she wasn't.

And Nom Sod was just used as bait, by CSI to get Dad to peek his head out and be exposed as the fixer, pure personal politics there.

thought it was two cops?

my first thoughts where Koh tao but couldn't find anything on the net.

Originally Posted by YOrlov

I have just seen a new picture of Witheridge, and it really does appear she was shot in the jaw and forehead. Also having an interesting chat with the person who has these pictures. Seems a theory is this a a cop's gun being covered up. Police did not count on the massive exposure- and the three top cops transferred yesterday are tired of playing along.

Telegraph UK
November 13, 2014
By Natalie Paris

In the week that the ruling military has banned a British book about Thailand’s struggle for democracy, another is about to claim that the tourist industry has gone seriously awry.

“Thailand: Deadly Destination” is soon to be published and attempts to explain why a million fewer tourists are predicted to visit the beach-rich nation this year, following a military coup and the unsolved murder of two British backpackers in September.

The book’s publicity material claims that, in terms of tourist safety, Thailand scores very badly. “In 2014, just as in the years preceding it, there were train, bus, ferry, speedboat, motorbike and car accidents, murders, knifings, unexplained deaths, numerous suicides, diving accidents, robberies gone wrong, anonymous bodies washing up on the shores and a string of alcohol- and drug-related incidents.”

It pulls no punches and paints a bleak image of the future, going on to state: “Thailand has weak democratic institutions, an economy slipping into recession, faces issues of corruption across many of its key services and is host to international crime syndicates, awash with despised foreigners and drifting perilously towards civil war.”

John Stapleton, the author, claims that those who know the country well were less surprised by news of the murder of two British tourists. He said: “The international coverage of the recent brutal killing of two British backpackers on the island of Koh Tao has highlighted what many long-time observers of Thailand already knew, that its tourist industry is poorly managed and the Land of Smiles has come to justifiably be regarded as one of the most dangerous tourist destinations on Earth.”

British author Andrew MacGregor Marshall, whose book “A Kingdom in Crisis: Thailand’s Struggle for Democracy in the Twenty-First Century”, was banned by the Thai government on Tuesday, agreed that tourists should be wary. Now fearful of returning to Thailand, even though he has a Thai wife, he was nonetheless prepared for the furious reaction that his book exploring Thailand’s politics might provoke.

He said the murders in Koh Tao exposed the dark side of a country loved by many Western tourists. “Thailand is still relatively safe to visit,” he said, “as petty crime is widespread but murders and assaults targeting foreigners are relatively rare. But tourists should be aware that this is a country where things can very suddenly go very wrong, and where there is no credible functioning justice system.

“Many potential visitors are now being deterred due to the military regime and regular revelations of corruption and crime. That’s a tragedy, but it’s sensible for tourists to exercise extreme caution while Thailand remains ruled by an unaccountable and criminal elite.”

Full article: Thailand 'most dangerous tourist destination' claims book - Telegraph

Originally Posted by Sumocakewalk

“Thailand: Deadly Destination

So this is what he calls his book....


and then goes on to say this....

Originally Posted by Sumocakewalk

he said, “as petty crime is widespread but murders and assaults targeting foreigners are relatively rare

Nobody can dispute the fact that Thailand has it's problems, including violent crime....but the number of tourists harmed has to be viewed in relation to the huge numbers that visit the place; in order to put things into a bit more perspective.

Originally Posted by Sumocakewalk

awash with despised foreigners

Ya reckon that's US he's talking about?.....do you feel "despised"???....

Originally Posted by koman

Originally Posted by Sumocakewalk

“Thailand: Deadly Destination"

So this is what he calls his book....

and then goes on to say this....

Originally Posted by Sumocakewalk

he said, “as petty crime is widespread but murders and assaults targeting foreigners are relatively rare"

The quote about petty crime being widespread actually came from a different author, Andrew MacGregor Marshall, who wrote the recently banned book "A Kingdom in Crisis: Thailand’s Struggle for Democracy in the Twenty-First Century".

John Stapleton is the author of the book "Thailand: Deadly Destination".

^^ ^

Jesus, What a lot of hysterical propaganda.

Turds that write these pathetic books are only taking advantage of the weak minded who actually believe this stuff or have an agenda against Thailand and its people.

Try go living in America where gun crime is rampant or Australia where a trip into the cities at night time is risky business.

Really grade one stuff these books.

Originally Posted by terry57

Try go living in America where gun crime is rampant or Australia where a trip into the cities at night time is risky business.

I would feel safer in America....as long as you stay away from the cops I guess.

I would have thought that this would need to be investigated , but it seems to have been forgotten about .
The murdered felangs mans room mate , who worked in the bar where the two murdered felangs were drinking on the night and had an argument with some Thais , and who was threatened with death and was also accused of being the murder , even before the bodies were found .
This guy quite probably has case solving evidence , but he seems to be gone and forgotten about .

Originally Posted by snakeeyes

https://www.facebook.com/seanhmcanna...03551833930658

We have been given advice to stop the social media on this now. It may get him killed. The embassy are involved & we have to wait it out but the situation is better than earlier x"




Scottish man goes into hiding on Thai island after claiming he knows who killed backpackers David Miller and Hannah Witheridge

A SCOT has gone into hiding on a tiny island in Thailand after claiming he knows who killed tragic David Miller and Hannah Witheridge.

Ex-pat Sean McAnna, 25, who lives in Koh Tao, posted messages on his Facebook page last night claiming his life was in danger because he knew the killers.

The backpackers were bludgeoned to death on Monday. It’s understood they just met hours before they were killed.

Sean, who is from Glasgow, works in the AC nightclub, where Hannah, 23, from Hemsby, Norfolk, and David, 24, from Jersey, are believed to have spent their last hours.

He posted: “Thai mafia are trying to kill me. Please help me.” A few minutes later he accused a local bar owner of being responsible.

Worried friends and relatives immediately launched a campaign to get him to safety.

It is understood Sean has been taken to a safe place and is waiting to get off the island.

Today a friend of his, who asked not to be named, said: “Sean said he knew David Miller as the island is very small.

“He said the island is run by the Thai mafia and he knew the identities of the killer.

“He was frightened for his life and felt he needed help from anyone he could and social media was his best option.

“His mum and sister contacted Scottish and Thai police and he is now safe.

Thai detectives have confirmed they are investigating claims the pair were murdered after a row with a local gangster.

Students Hannah and David had attended a beach party before slipping away together at around 1am on Monday.

Their semi-naked bodies were discovered on the beach near rocks only 100 yards from the scene of the party.

Police said that DNA semen samples taken from Hannah’s body were from two men, both Asian. However, it did not match any of their DNA records.

A spokeswoman for the British Embassy said: “We are currently assisting a British national in Thailand.



Scot goes into hiding on Thai island after claiming he knows who killed David Miller and Hannah Witheridge - Daily Record

Mr McAnna claimed that two Thai men, who he believes may have crucial information about the murders, threatened to kill him in the early hours of Monday morning while he was drinking at a bar on Sairee beach near to where their disfigured bodies were discovered.
He fled, took refuge in a nearby supermarket and was only able to leave when police were called and arrived on the scene at around 5am. They questioned the two Thai men but no arrests were made.
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With those two men still at large, Mr McAnna spent the day in hiding before fleeing Koh Tao fearing he could be killed if he stayed.
"I need to get off this island," a tearful and visibly nervous Mr McAnna told The Telegraph during an interview conducted inside the back of a taxi before he departed.
"I genuinely thought that was the day I was going to die," Mr McAnna said. "I genuinely thought that this was me dead. That I was gone."
"I phoned my mum, I phoned my sister. I told her I loved her and that I would try and make it home. I said that if this was going to be the last conversation that we had then it was a really sad one to have but she's been great and I love her."
Mr McAnna met Mr Miller last year while both men were living in Leeds. He was the singer and guitarist in a Leeds band called These Fading Polaroids and Mr Miller was an engineering student. Both lived in the Hyde Park area.

Mr McAnna said he recently returned to Koh Tao - where he had previously spent 18 months living and working as a barman - and had planned but failed to meet Mr Miller on the night he and Ms Witheridge were murdered.
Police have yet to make any arrests for the horrific murders and now say they plan to force every man on the 2,000 population island to provide DNA for testing. Locals appear reluctant to discuss the case, apparently fearing reprisals from mafia-style families who are said to control Koh Tao.
Mr McAnna said he believed it was people linked to one such group who threatened to kill him. At around 2.30am he was accosted by two Thai men at Koh Tao's AC Bar, a beachfront nightclub where Mr Miller and Ms Witheridge had been just before they were murdered.
"They just said to me: 'It was you who killed them. You've got two people's deaths on your hands. We know it was you. You're going to hang yourself tonight and we are going to watch you hang. You will die tonight.'"
"So I just ran. I just left and ran," he said.
A terrified Mr McAnna took refuge in a small supermarket into which the men chased him. They tried to convince him to leave but he refused, fearing he would be murdered.
"They wouldn't have shot me. They would have taken me up into the hills and hung me to make it look like I'd hung myself," he said.
Mr McAnna said he did not know if the men who threatened him were directly involved in his friend's murder. However, he did believe they had key information about the murders and were attempting to make him a "scapegoat" for the killings.
"I think they needed a scapegoat. I think they might know who it was. They need a scapegoat and they don't want it to be locals. They want it to be a westerner. So if I kill myself here, if I hang myself here, then it is easy to say: 'See, it was him.'"
Mr McAnna posted information about the alleged threats on his Facebook page at around 4am on Monday and issued a desperate plea for help. "Thai mafia are trying to kill me. Please help me," he wrote.
He said he also spoke to Foreign Office officials in London over the telephone. After being taken from the supermarket by Thai police, Mr McAnna said he spent the rest of the night hiding from the men he feared were going to kill him in the jungle.
"I was scared s*******. I was really scared. So I kept moving every thirty minutes in case anybody had seen me. I would move from one part, to the next part in case there was anyone close that had seen me and could send someone."
Mr McAnna rejected the men's claims that had been involved killing his friend and Ms Witheridge. "Of course I had nothing to do with it." Prachum Ruangthong, the police chief responsible for Koh Tao, confirmed that Mr McAnna had been asked to provide DNA samples as part of investigations into the murders but was not considered a suspect.
The police chief denied recieving reports of death threats against Mr McAnna even though he met him on Monday morning and told the British traveller: "I am sensitive about your feelings. You don't worry, ok?"
Two Thai men were questioned about the incident but they were not arrested. The police chief said he would guarantee the Briton's security while he remained on Koh Tao.
After spending much of Monday in hiding, Mr McAnna travelled to the island's port with a group of British reporters at around 2.30pm. He left Koh Tao on a passenger ferry at 3.10pm.
Mr McAnna's friends took to social media to express their concern. "Sean get off that island now," wrote Jordan O'Hara, a friend. "Can't believe what Tao is turning in to. Madness!" wrote Rachel Howard.
On Monday afternoon, Mr McAnna sat near Koh Tao's main pier in blazing sunshine preparing to board a ferry off the island. "I'm getting nervous," he said, as holidaymakers lined up to board the vessel that would take him to safety.
The 25-year-old Scot vowed never to return to an island that markets itself as a paradise for divers and partiers. "I'm done here," he said, adding that he would only feel truly safe once he had flown out of Thailand. "Something could still happen to me in the next 24 hours."