Thread: Coup 2014 : Abhisit apologises for failing to protect democracy

^ Thank you.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Snipers on roofs were ordered and agreed in advance; they were up there for several weeks, at least one assassination was ordered and agreed in advance. Live fire zones were ordered in advance. This is murder, hence why charges have been brought... If I say "shoot anybody that walks across this live fire zone", if I say "walk down this street in formation firing volleys of bullets down the street" then you could say I'm not signing an order to murder anybody, but it's a pretty weak defense and cases are pending; no doubt they will get lost with this junta. The point being that an army dispersing protesters is still accountable; it's not a case of anything goes...

Originally Posted by Waid

^ Thank you.

Pair of you couldn't be more distanced from the reality of the matter if you tried

Originally Posted by thegent

Abhisit is a god man ......

In which case ............. pity he didn't feed the thousands with a few loaves and fishes instead of sicking the soldiers on them.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Snipers on roofs were ordered and agreed in advance; .

I am sure Colonel Romklao would agree with you. Except for him being dead of course.

^ whoever it was saved a real redshirt bloodbath

Nobel prize contender

Originally Posted by thegent

Abhisit is a god man and perhaps the best Prime Minister this country has had. He understands how good government works and given time would oversee reforms ensuring some separation of powers.

I know most here only understand slogans and think in contrived compartments suiting their prejudices but if one was to cast around for competent parliamentarians capable of organizing good governance then the short list is indeed short .

Abhisit is the man.

I have long been a critic of Abhisit, but I too recognize that he owed his position to making a deal with the devil. The Democrats relied on Suthep to create a political machine in the south and it came back to bite them on the buttocks. Abhisit made too many deals with unsavoury people so as to become PM. He was never his own man. Every part of his political career was owed to the favours of others starting with the first time he became an MP. The military had him by the balls since Day 1. He was the house slave who had it good thinking he was better than the other slaves, but at the end of the day, he too was just a slave.

^ Yes abisit must realise by now he was well and truly reamed out to

Originally Posted by zygote1

Originally Posted by thegent

Abhisit is a god man and perhaps the best Prime Minister this country has had. He understands how good government works and given time would oversee reforms ensuring some separation of powers.

I know most here only understand slogans and think in contrived compartments suiting their prejudices but if one was to cast around for competent parliamentarians capable of organizing good governance then the short list is indeed short .

Abhisit is the man.

I have long been a critic of Abhisit, but I too recognize that he owed his position to making a deal with the devil. The Democrats relied on Suthep to create a political machine in the south and it came back to bite them on the buttocks. Abhisit made too many deals with unsavoury people so as to become PM. He was never his own man. Every part of his political career was owed to the favours of others starting with the first time he became an MP. The military had him by the balls since Day 1. He was the house slave who had it good thinking he was better than the other slaves, but at the end of the day, he too was just a slave.

Well perhaps at least he isn't a slave to money like his adversary. Only 50+ million baht fortune amassed over a parliamentary period of 22 years, dwarfed by some of his friends in England no doubt.




Upon his appointment as Prime Minister in 2008, Abhisit officially declared personal assets worth 51.8 million baht (nearly $2 million). This increased to 54.4 million upon leaving office. Given that Abhisit has never worked in the private sector, the vast majority of his wealth was either inherited or given to him.


Abhisit Vejjajiva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

the vast majority of his wealth was either inherited or given to him

Nice work if you can get it...

I don't accept all these talk of "oh, but he's a nice bloke...". As I said, his actions defined him, they were his choices and he made them...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

As I said, his actions defined him, they were his choices and he made them...

The reds had a chance to go home before the Army started firing live rounds at them. It was their choice to stay and they made it.

Originally Posted by pickel

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

As I said, his actions defined him, they were his choices and he made them...

The reds had a chance to go home before the Army started firing live rounds at them. It was their choice to stay and they made it.

They are two very different situations, a one-liner does not make them the same...

One is a pm who has avoided elections, encouraged coups, worked with the army and PAD against democracy for the sake of power and influence. He claims to care about democracy, but has done the opposite. The other, are a group of people who behaved democratically in an election, and in protesting against a coup, then were shot down in the streets by orders of the dem government with abhisit as PM.

abhisit is up on murder charges which were considered strong enough to be accepted by the courts and are currently going through the legal system along with his deputy-PM, suthep.

Actually, Pickel, to make such a comment, which comes across as a cheap joke, is extremely insulting to the 96 people who were killed.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Actually, Pickel, to make such a comment, which comes across as a cheap joke, is extremely insulting to the 96 people who were killed.

No, it's not insulting to them. It's an insult to you. They chose to stay after repeated warnings and a fair offer by Abhisit. Their leaders crying on stage saying they never thought it would come to that showed what fools they were, as at that time me, a foreigner, knew full well what would happen if they didn't leave.

Originally Posted by Waid

^ Thank you.

Are you always so grateful when served up a dish of re-cycled pap laced with a dollop of scarcely refined cliche and regurgitated cant?

Presumably, you are another Tefler or some other parvenu squinting through a prism of your own witless innocence?

If so, I should imagine you are in good company, this thread is full of them here and elsewhere.

Upon his appointment as Prime Minister in 2008, Abhisit officially declared personal assets worth 51.8 million baht (nearly $2 million). This increased to 54.4 million upon leaving office. Given that Abhisit has never worked in the private sector, the vast majority of his wealth was either inherited or given to him.

Thats a million pounds, hardly a fortune these days for a prime minister.
His house on sukhumvit 31, where he hass lived for many years, probably makes up the greater part of that fortune.

Originally Posted by pickel

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

As I said, his actions defined him, they were his choices and he made them...

The reds had a chance to go home before the Army started firing live rounds at them. It was their choice to stay and they made it.

But the army also had the choice not to start firing didn't they?

Originally Posted by Dandyhole

But the army also had the choice not to start firing didn't they?

Welcome to Thailand.

Originally Posted by Mid

Abhisit apologises for failing to protect democracy
May 25, 2014

Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva Sunday posted a message on hisFacebook wall, issuing an apology for failing to defend democracy.

"I am sorry that I could not push for reforms under the constitution and could not protect democracy," Abhisit wrote.

nationmultimedia.com

Absolutely zero shame

"I am sorry ..." said the wolf after eating grandma...

Originally Posted by pickel

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

As I said, his actions defined him, they were his choices and he made them...

The reds had a chance to go home before the Army started firing live rounds at them. It was their choice to stay and they made it.

What a stupid comment.

Abhisit officially declared

... the operative word here being "officially"...