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    Mr lick he said Thaksin backed parties, in which he is correct



    Heavilyarmedsovietspacemonkey - ''As I’ve mentioned above, the red shirts have won every single election since the military coup in 2006''



    I didn't realise The Red Shirts were a political party up for election.



    I'm afraid this is also proof of either a singular viewpoint or a passion for binge drinking


    ''As far as I know, there is no proof at all for massive vote-buying by the red shirt camp during the last election or the election before''

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    In reference to the Video

    whats of greater interest the protesters are now not your usual isaan support base.

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    So if he would of used yelow shirts for the dems would he off been correct.? Semantics

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick View Post
    Mr lick he said Thaksin backed parties, in which he is correct



    Heavilyarmedsovietspacemonkey - ''As I’ve mentioned above, the red shirts have won every single election since the military coup in 2006''



    I didn't realise The Red Shirts were a political party up for election.



    I'm afraid this is also proof of either a singular viewpoint or a passion for binge drinking


    ''As far as I know, there is no proof at all for massive vote-buying by the red shirt camp during the last election or the election before''

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    sure there'll be missed, bad move by junta

    Thai badminton team withdraws from tournaments in US and Australia | Thai PBS English News

    Thai badminton team withdraws from tournaments in US and Australia
    in General | June 3, 2014
    A Thai badminton team has decided to opt out of two tournaments in the United States and Australia as a gesture of protest against the two countries’ interference in Thai domestic affairs.
    The decision was announced on Monday by Mr Jane Piyatat, president of Granular badminton club.

    The Granular team is to contest in the Australian Open badminton tournament scheduled on June 24-29 and the Yonex US Open tournament during July 8-13.

    Mr Jane cited safety reason for his team’s withdrawal from the two tournaments after the US and Australian governments decided to downgrade relationship with the Thai military and banned Thai military officers from visiting their countries.

    (photo : https://www.facebook.com/BadmintonGranular)

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    Quite fair enough to pull the team.


    I do feel sorry for the athletes who spend endless hours practicing to have it all destroyed by stupid politics.

    Once again Australia and America should just STFU and butt out of Thai Politics.

    Not their problem.

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    CNN and BBC are back on the air, at least here in CM on True Visions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Quite fair enough to pull the team.


    I do feel sorry for the athletes who spend endless hours practicing to have it all destroyed by stupid politics.

    Once again Australia and America should just STFU and butt out of Thai Politics.

    Not their problem.
    ditto, let them do their thing, Thailand always bounces back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick
    Complete and utter garbage in my opinion.
    absolutely, coming from another red farang Thaiophile

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    even though the coup is an annoying thing, the alternative wasn't great either

    elections with bought out votes and silly policies wasn't the path to reconciliation and a future united Thailand

    Of course the Dems completely failed in their role, but at the end to be expected when each side has been polarized by some silly authoritarian leader out of Dubai.

    Hopefully, taking the Dubai man out of the picture by destroying his legacy will be the beginning of reconciliation.

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    No it won't Butters. Thaksin out isn't going to change a thing. Corruption will prevail. Vote buying will continue by all parties if they deem the expense necessary.

    None of the anti gov rhetoric is the issue. Thaksin, corruption, mismanagement et al are simply bumper sticker lines to justify removal of an elected majority who a minority fear will make the head of the nation irrelevant.

    A march of folly by the desperate.

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    ^ ^

    You have thrown a lot of stuff together in that post.

    Much of it is not relevant to Thailand's present situation but Its your Opinion.

    Fair enough. Don't quite agree though.

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    Was't much. Only took a couple minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post


    Thaksin out isn't going to change a thing.

    Corruption will prevail. Vote buying will continue by all parties if they deem the expense necessary.

    This is much more to the point and accurate.

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    Seem to remember Norton you said there wouldn't be a coup.

    You could be right, but the fight is on.

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    having a polarizing figure, may it be Thaksin or someone else, in a third world politics environment is always a recipe for disaster for the public

    the issue is the polarizing figure, period. Why you ask ? because they will bring to the table our fundamental differences over everything as a tool to exploit others and consolidate his power. Thaksin is the source of the problem, but at the same time, he is not. He is simply the element that is exploiting division among the people for political gains.

    Thai have a certain culture, that can be annoying, but at the same time, that culture has been there for centuries. Those differences were there before Thaksin came into power, but they were only exploited once he feared he lost his power. Where was the speech on Democracy and political liberation in 2001 when he was catering to the Bangkok bourgeoisie and middle class by promising to be a "strong" leader that will fully exploit his rights under the flawed 1997 constitution ?

    at the end, it's a question of characters, because ideas and principles have no meanings unless they are expressed vigorously by individuals that are true believers of those principles and do not have "hidden" agendas. Thaksin, as a leader, is not such an individual, therefore his presence is just noises and meaningless for the future, and therefore he must be removed from the political landscape so other leaders with real principles and a less divisive nature can prevail. As long as we have the Thaksin noises, there can't be no political progress. He must be removed completely, and for that to happen, a bullet will be needed.
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    ^ ^

    Not much of a fight going on Jacky, the Junta seem to have things well under control
    with very little violence kicking off.

    Hope it stays that way.

    A handful of Punters been Arrested, nothing compared to past Coups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MineFalls
    They know that the BKK scum look down on them and they really do. I see it right here in the BKK area and hear it from the yellow hiso's of Bangkok's mouths. They are truly arrogant fooks. I also know westerners who've beat the shit out of other westerners who've looked down on them. Thais put up with the shit of the hisos but that won't last forever.
    you do realize that this issue has nothing to do with Democracy ? it's a cultural issue, creating division for political gains is hardly going to solve the problem, isn't it ? unless you want to go Mao style, by putting the bourgeoisie and the elite in the fields and execute them. As you can see, that plan is a bit flawed at the end. A new elite will rise eventually. It's a never ending cycle. The solution is for them to learn to live together and to respect each other, even if they think otherwise. That's what make the differences between savage tribes and educated civilized people.

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    jeez just remove thaksin and all is hunky dory.

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    Yes I did Yaso. So I got it wrong. Prediction based on the need for a coup. No need. Ying and her gov gone. This coup was not needed. Why it happened is a matter of conjecture.

    So what's your prediction? Come on now. Don't be shy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    ^ ^

    Not much of a fight going on Jacky, the Junta seem to have things well under control
    with very little violence kicking off.

    Hope it stays that way.

    A handful of Punters been Arrested, nothing compared to past Coups.

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    Nothing at all to do with you being wrong or scoring points just the Un-predictable ways of Thailand.

    What we think we know,is a guess by us all.

    My prediction is most probably wrong like the rest of us.

    Can only live and hope.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Yes I did. So I got it wrong. Prediction based on the need for a coup. No need. Ying and her gov gone. This coup was not needed. Why it happened is a matter of conjecture.

    So what's your prediction? Come on now. Don't be shy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post

    As long as we have the Thaksin noises, there can't be no political progress.

    He must be removed completely, and for that to happen, a bullet will be needed.

    Strong view there Butters.

    That would be a game changer, it would be game on with quite a few big players getting assassinated in return.

    The Thais may be do not want this scenario as they know it could spiral out of control.

    No, Not a top idea to Cap Thaksin or any body at this stage not saying it won't happen mind you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Yes I did Yaso. So I got it wrong. Prediction based on the need for a coup. No need. Ying and her gov gone. This coup was not needed. Why it happened is a matter of conjecture.

    So what's your prediction? Come on now. Don't be shy.
    don't think it was needed either, hence the real reason behind it not being disclosed. Also very well prepared, the Yellows and the stubborn of Y and PT gave them a perfect excuse to stage it, much better than waiting for fresh elections and then staging it.

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