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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    No point what so ever posting up pics of bullets is there.

    Its a friggin Coup, troops tend to have live rounds in their guns don't they.

    What do you expect ?

    For them to carry around guns with no bullets in them ????

    Silly rhetoric raises its head once again.

    Could be like 2010 when they started shooting people then you will have something decent to post about.

    So they are arresting a few protesters who are getting silly, big friggin deal innit.

    Its nothing so far.
    I mostly agree. Things could be much worse. The difference being "It's nothing so far" is an insult to the unfortunate ones undergoing traditional Thai state interrigation. Ask them if it's nothing.

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    I'm a bit slow here as I only just was told that key members of the Red Shirt movement are actually ex Communist Party of Thailand, so for sure they want election and democracy!!

    Seems to me they are simply using Thaksin as a prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack
    The difference being that the other countries do it to other nations as they have already successfully done it to their own citizens, who usually are clueless to the fact, and still believe that they live in a democracy.
    There you go - fixed that for you. Feel free to challenge that if you like, but it is futile to do so.

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    From the FT .....'one combative movement leader known as “Rambo Isaan” has publicly renounced politics after being released from detention.'

    If true - quite pathetic. A tough guy only until the going got tough. Leaving the struggle to others.

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    Think i'd do the same in his position for the Time being.

    Either that or get locked up for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    From the FT .....'one combative movement leader known as “Rambo Isaan” has publicly renounced politics after being released from detention.'

    If true - quite pathetic. A tough guy only until the going got tough. Leaving the struggle to others.

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    I wonder what kind or re-education these detentions offer? Perhaps a list of names and residencies of family members along with threats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
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    Why is the Junta so sensitive about criticism? Thought soldiers were tough.
    All Thais are. Look at the anti American and Anti US ambassador bullshit going on right now... I have lost a few Thai friends in the last few days over this. There is a bit of North Korean brainwashing that occurs here believe you me.
    You got that right bro'. Seeing that crap all over the net.

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    no re-education more being told step out of line and your a goner, sure we'll see the LM convictions spiral this time.

    Great way to get rid of your enemies.



    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I wonder what kind or re-education these detentions offer? Perhaps a list of names and residencies of family members along with threats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    Think i'd do the same in his position for the Time being.

    Either that or get locked up for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    From the FT .....'one combative movement leader known as “Rambo Isaan” has publicly renounced politics after being released from detention.'

    If true - quite pathetic. A tough guy only until the going got tough. Leaving the struggle to others.

    Yes, but you're not going out there trading on a 'Rambo' image and making a living on that ideology. This guy was.

    Just some podgy old codger who burst into tears when he met with his Mum after he was released. Not really a hard man of the revolution at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    I wonder what kind or re-education these detentions offer? Perhaps a list of names and residencies of family members along with threats?
    Apparently one of the subjects of the re-education is a few interesting surveillance videos with sound of a certain poisoned dwarf airing his real opinion of the rural folk within Thailand, using phrases such as Stupid, dumb, cattle etc and making it very clear that he couldn't give a flying toss about them. Apparently even the most die hard supporter of his view them and turn against him almost immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    I wonder what kind or re-education these detentions offer? Perhaps a list of names and residencies of family members along with threats?
    Apparently one of the subjects of the re-education is a few interesting surveillance videos with sound of a certain poisoned dwarf airing his real opinion of the rural folk within Thailand, using phrases such as Stupid, dumb, cattle etc and making it very clear that he couldn't give a flying toss about them. Apparently even the most die hard supporter of his view them and turn against him almost immediately.
    Do you work for ASTV?

    Do you have any facts to offer or just propagandaesque speculation?
    How do I post these pictures???

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    From the FT .....'one combative movement leader known as “Rambo Isaan” has publicly renounced politics after being released from detention.'

    If true - quite pathetic. A tough guy only until the going got tough. Leaving the struggle to others.
    if that's true, then it's just another instance of tough talks but no actions by the usual suspects

    they are incapable of fighting for a cause unless it involves money,

    nothing to do with Democracy as expected, but Thaksin since he has all the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    I wonder what kind or re-education these detentions offer? Perhaps a list of names and residencies of family members along with threats?
    Apparently one of the subjects of the re-education is a few interesting surveillance videos with sound of a certain poisoned dwarf airing his real opinion of the rural folk within Thailand, using phrases such as Stupid, dumb, cattle etc and making it very clear that he couldn't give a flying toss about them. Apparently even the most die hard supporter of his view them and turn against him almost immediately.
    not sure they would care as long as he is paying the bills,

    I mean nobody denies that the Reds "supporters" are stupid, dumb and a bunch of cattle, if they weren't, they wouldn't sell their votes for 300 THB and show up at all those rallies for a few thousands. They are poor and desperate, and not too smart, and for that, they should be protected from manipulating leaders. They are as much a victim as everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post

    I mean nobody denies that the Reds "supporters" are a bunch of cattle, if they weren't, they wouldn't sell their votes for 300 THB and show up at all those rallies for a few thousands.

    Look, this post is exactly why fair elections can not be held in Thailand at the moment.

    Considering all the punters are getting payed off its not a true Democratic election is it.


    Exactly why the Yellows refuse to hold an Election. Its all bullshit when punters are getting payed.

    Fuk knows what the answer is to this problem but there's the problem right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post


    Exactly why the Yellows refuse to hold an Election. Its all bullshit when punters are getting payed.

    Fuk knows what the answer is to this problem but there's the problem right there.
    Pretty easy !

    A voter education programme that tells people their vote is secure and confidential. That they can vote for who they like and there is zero chance of anyone attributing the contents of the ballot box.

    So, you can't eradicate the payments - you just can't stop one person giving another person a banknote under the table - but you can render it an utterly meaningless procedure. Its a mug's game to pay someone for a job that you can't be sure they will fulfill.

    If someone gave me money to influence me in casting a secret ballot - I would take the money and vote for whomsoever I preferred.

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    Which is what happens but many of are junta loving members ignore this fact.

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    Thai army rulers prepare emergency economic measures

    ...Prajin says he has told the Finance Ministry to look at a complete overhaul of the tax structure and report to him next week.

    The Nation newspaper said state enterprises including Thai Airways International Pcl and the State Railway of Thailand would put investment plans to Prajin on Monday and these would also be discussed with Prayuth this week.

    In a televised address on Friday, Prayuth said the military would need time to reconcile Thailand's antagonistic political forces and push through reforms, indicating there would be no general election for 15 months at least.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post


    The Nation newspaper said state enterprises including Thai Airways International Pcl and the State Railway of Thailand would put investment plans to Prajin on Monday and these would also be discussed with Prayuth this week.
    It's time for business and commerce to pay up for the boys with the guns.

    Either cash (kickbacks on government contracts awarded) or lucrative directorships are both acceptable coin of the realm.

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    Pasan was the man in Dubai when Thaksin went there.

    Sacking Thai ambassador in UK is a matter of appropriateness | Thai PBS English News

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    The Foreign Ministry said Monday the sacking of Thai ambassador to the United Kingdom Pasan Teparak was a matter of appropriateness and had nothing to do with relations of the two countries.
    The Ministry spokesman Sek Wannamethee said the sacking of the ambassador was clarified at the meeting of the ministry’s permanent secretary Sihasak Puangketkaew and representatives of the United States, the United Kingdom, Germany and Japan at Shangri La Singapore.

    The meeting was intended to clarify the need of the National Council for Peace and Order to seize power and its roadmap to bring the country back to peace and order.

    It also aimed at convincing countries which have cut military aids to Thailand and banned entries by the Thai military leaders to their countries to review their actions.

    The spokesman said Mr Sihasak has said 39 countries and three international organisations have reacted to the military coup while Australia has voiced strongest opposition and lowered its military ties with Thailand. It also banned Thai junta leaders to enter the country.

    He said Mr Sihasak has expressed regrets over the strong reaction to the NCPO by Australia.

    He said after listening to the clarification, its representative said Australia would review its earlier stance.

    The sacking of the Thai ambassador to London was also clarified at the meeting with explanation that the sacking was a matter of appropriateness.

    A Thai diplomat Nattawat Krisnamar has been assigned to work in his place, the spokesman said.

    Myanmar has voiced concern over the military coup as it might affect the Thai economy as now 62 countries have issued travel advisories for their citizens to Thailand, he added.

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    I am not sure an Army General is the best person to put in place for economic projects, above all without check and balance institutions in the process,

    this is becoming a farce, between the comical reds cowards and the tough speaking army generals, almost theatrical

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    And the smokers they need the coffers stuffed to the brim.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post


    The Nation newspaper said state enterprises including Thai Airways International Pcl and the State Railway of Thailand would put investment plans to Prajin on Monday and these would also be discussed with Prayuth this week.
    It's time for business and commerce to pay up for the boys with the guns.

    Either cash (kickbacks on government contracts awarded) or lucrative directorships are both acceptable coin of the realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog
    So, you can't eradicate the payments
    what about this ? anyone selling their votes is banned for 10 years for voting fraud

    win-win for everybody, even the Yellow, eventually the Dems will win an election

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack
    Which is what happens but many of are junta loving members ignore this fact.
    it's not done in secret, it's quite opened actually, and it gives the perception that they show up to the polling station just to get paid, so really what it means is that they don't care about their duty.

    would they show up to the polling station if no cash was involved ? probably not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    complete overhaul of the tax structure
    And a good job too. I trust that this will see my tax bill reduced?

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