Thread: Coup 2014 !!!! : Military 'takes control' in Thailand

Thailand's going to face the future in short time anyways. The truth is on the way. The PAD/PDRC members should be banned from foreign nations when the crap really hits the fan. Let the Thai law be used against them and their families as they have supported its use against so many.

Originally Posted by thegent

Troy, subsistence farming in it's feudal, patchwork quilt form that exists today will give way to industrial farming with all its economy of scale and efficiencies. The farmers as they are now will quite literally wither on the vine of economic necessity and their communities will migrate to the towns and cities.

It is inevitable and, eventually, as a political force their significance will be negligible.

Progress. Whether one is for it or against it is really quite, quite irrelevant. Either way, it will happen.

Indeed. Interesting how the desired outcome of the destruction of subsistence farming, getting farmers into debt, and thus having to sell to large corporations was achieved seamlessly after the alleged "mishandling" of the flood situation? Backed up with a scheme to take the farmers product and not pay for it....

Gee someone with an open mind might start to think that this was not an accident...but instead the plan all along

Originally Posted by MineFalls

Thailand's going to face the future in short time anyways. The truth is on the way. The PAD/PDRC members should be banned from foreign nations when the crap really hits the fan. Let the Thai law be used against them and their families as they have supported its use against so many.

Yet, very powerful families [and connections] that you speak of...
Influence always overrides everything.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by MineFalls

Thailand's going to face the future in short time anyways. The truth is on the way. The PAD/PDRC members should be banned from foreign nations when the crap really hits the fan. Let the Thai law be used against them and their families as they have supported its use against so many.

Yet, very powerful families [and connections] that you speak of...
Influence always overrides everything.

well, it is their country after all.

Or would you prefer the sound of McThai?

You could get all the big companies to put their directors in the senate!!! true democracy!!!!!


Bollocks.

Chok Dee Meaung Thai.

So I guess you aren't critical of the US now, AS. You've joined the world mafia!

"Read to Resist" It's one way some protesters are making statements in public places. Will the Junta eventually arrest them, too?


https://twitter.com/Nok_KN/status/47...462912/photo/1

Originally Posted by Humbert

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Originally Posted by wjblaney

Originally Posted by Humbert

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First reaction is

But it's more serious than that. It again shows how absurdly disconnected these guys are from the 21st century, a fact that carries great risk.

I can't access my facebook account not that i use it.

Message i got was, someone tried to log in to your account please provide your D.O.B couldn't remember my dob i provided so can not log in.

^ ( the bookreaders in the photos)
idiots.

the junta are firmly in control, only a massive armed uprising will dislodge them, and that is unlikely to happen, theres not enough true "rebels" and i suspect even they dont have the stomach for it.

there is a big difference in the bravery and commitment level required to take on the military compared to that required to anonymously toss a grenade from a motorcycle or pick up into a crowd of demonstrators at asoke.

the few silly girly students hamming it up for the western press are just embarrassing themselves in the manner of students everywhere and will achieve little.

meanwhile, the junta are efficiently and professionally continuing with their task of dismantling the legacy of thaksin.

resistance is futile, dontcha know !!

Originally Posted by taxexile

^ ( the bookreaders in the photos)
idiots.

the junta are firmly in control, only a massive armed uprising will dislodge them, and that is unlikely to happen, theres not enough true "rebels" and i suspect even they dont have the stomach for it.

there is a big difference in the bravery and commitment level required to take on the military compared to that required to anonymously toss a grenade from a motorcycle or pick up into a crowd of demonstrators at asoke.

the few silly girly students hamming it up for the western press are just embarrassing themselves in the manner of students everywhere and will achieve little.

meanwhile, the junta are efficiently and professionally continuing with their task of dismantling the legacy of thaksin.

resistance is futile, dontcha know !!

The military is probably most with the rural folks. It's just the leaders who are driving/ abusing the soldiers for their own purpose. Get rid of the leaders and things will change. As for the grenade BS you posted that could have even been the military or suthep's folks. It's a fact that most of the grenades never went off or exploded in places without people even nearby or at late odd hours. It's all a farce to abuse the people and empower the same old good ol' boys of Thailand.

They relaxed the curfew though, didn't they? Midnight to 4 AM now I unnerstand

Originally Posted by taxexile

there is a big difference in the bravery and commitment level required to take on the military compared to that required to anonymously toss a grenade from a motorcycle or pick up into a crowd of demonstrators at asoke.

And that is why resistance now would not be direct confrontation. In Europe during the war, sabotage would be used to undermine the German occupiers, not simply walking up to a Wehrmacht patrol and starting a fight.

I would be surprised if there are no Thais ready to offer some resistance. Even the act of leaving suspicious packages in public places (whether they have bombs in them or not) is a disruptive tactic that terrorises people. Chucking a grenade on to the tracks of the skytrain would hurt nobody, but would cause a lot of disruption.

People cannot prevail democratically or politically in Thailand. They know that is closed off to them. So, if they want to act against the junta, they simply do so using asymmetric methods.

All the people have to do is resist peacefully and get arrested if they want change. Are Thais even willing to do that? Just a media war is a good start. Every time the military and those directing it take away freedom and the truth in any form, they make enemies. The Junta really are exposing themselves more and more. The issues which didn't have anything to do with this are getting dug up and put in papers around the world. All this exposure can't be good for their hypocrisy. Expose the scumbags by making people aware of the truth. Just leaving papers on a bus or reading a book such as 1984 in public makes a statement. Some Thais are doing things like this. Wearing a T-shirt with something about freedom or truth on it will get into people's minds. Some devoted message pushers doing little things all around the country can weaken these dirtbags.

Originally Posted by taxexile

^ ( the bookreaders in the photos)
idiots.

To have beliefs and stand up for them in a way you are able - idiots. If you say so, Tax, but I wouldn't have wanted to have been educated by folks with your ideology which seems to be: it's a dog eat dog world, get as much for yourself as possible and don't respect any body else, they are all beneath me.

Originally Posted by taxexile

the junta are firmly in control, only a massive armed uprising will dislodge them

Untrue. They seek to be welcomed and have positive discourse about themselves; refusing this is fundamental and damages them.

Originally Posted by taxexile

meanwhile, the junta are efficiently and professionally continuing with their task of dismantling the legacy of thaksin.

You seem to be somewhat in awe, using these positive words, for a political group who are forcing their jackboot upon the masses.

Originally Posted by MineFalls

Just leaving papers on a bus or reading a book such as 1984 in public makes a statement..

Insufficient. (though I like the imagery)

Resistance needs to demonstrate that the army is not capable of providing either governance or security. I would presume that cells are already in Bangkok -could be operating quite autonomously of each other, or without any centralised organisation.

easiest way national strike

I doubt that there are any people who plan violent resistance. You can't beat the military without the people aware of the issue. The pro-government media will paint those who resist as terrorists or something like that which they have done forever. Even in the US during the lead up to Iraq and later, most people followed the media and the media went along with the with us or against us mentality. Prove to the people that right now, they really have no choice but to conform and this affects them and they might get a bit more aware. It's really pretty much as always in Thailand. Most Thais are quick to wave the flag and condemn those the military wants them to condemn. If Google and Facebook, resist the Thai government, it will be a great help for freedom here as it will force the Thais to do something if they want to stop the social chatter. If Google and Facebook give in, well that would keep Thais in their dream state without the military's actions affecting them personally as they chat about pop stars on Facebook.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

easiest way national strike

That would have to be co-ordinated.

And resistance can't be co-ordinated due to the stranglehold on the media. Therefore resistance has to be undertaken in pockets, either individually, or in small cells.

Originally Posted by MineFalls

I doubt that there are any people who plan violent resistance. .

Out of 60 million people? None?

A few but not many. Maybe some symbolic destroying of public property. If there's anyone serious about violence other than some fools I would think they would go after specific individuals. I think opposition must have planned this and must see some alternative ending than violence. The world media attention on this is powerful. That might be the higher leaders with Thaksin's response.


Just listen to this from Italy...

"Canti eTerni Ensemble and its director, the popular Italian folk singer and writer LUCILLA GALEAZZI, dedicate the song BELLA CIAO to Thai population. This is the most famous chant of the Italian Resistance, the movement fighting against the domination of the Fascist Regime. Thailand is suffering the enforcement of Martial Law set by the army. We hope that this tragic situation will be solved soon and that democracy will be immediately re-established.
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L'ensemble di canti della tradizione popolare umbra Canti eTerni e la sua direttrice Lucilla Galeazzi dedicano questo canto "simbolo" della Resistenza Italiana contro l'oppressione al popolo thailandese che in questi giorni sta subendo l'instaurazione di una dittatura. "

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Originally Posted by Humbert

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Originally Posted by MineFalls

This is the most famous chant of the Italian Resistance, the movement fighting against the domination of the Fascist Regime.

So what was the more effective expression of their anti-Fascist resistance? Their chanting or their fighting?

Oh, the knowledge some of the above members demonstrate, remarkable

as an aside, from the Bkk Post

PT ministers brawl in army camp | Bangkok Post: Most recent

amusing, at least