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    ^ that's the point, ENT, 1) is not my opinion, it is factually proven by her actions being wrong in all these cases. She did not meet the international standards that she claims to and is expected to.

    2) Both are equally bad if you let your political bias affect your professionalism.
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    Pornthip is a moron, end of. No credibility and utterly compromised.

    However, there have been 2 grenade attacks and this shooting (plus another one today in Bangkok near the army club) and a curious lack of arrests. I read the anti-govt guards got todays shooter and beat him up...it was also said the shooter had used a motorbike allegedly owned by a police officer....

    Amazing how these things happen but the police fail to arrest anyone. Amazing....or.....?

    Btw, it was said a group of Cambodians had crossed over the border last week....just in case you missed it.
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    Here's a report snippet of the latest shooting...

    Election to Go Ahead: Bangkok Policeman Accused of Shooting Protester - Phuket Wan

    Election to Go Ahead: Bangkok Policeman Accused of Shooting Protester

    By Phuketwan Reporter
    Tuesday, January 28, 2014
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    BANGKOK: An out-of-uniform policeman was badly beaten by protesters after a shooting incident close to where Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra was meeting today.

    Protesters guarding Suthep Thaugsuban beat Kongpet Petkanghar, 40, with their fists outside the Army Club, putting him in intensive care after a protester was shot. Both men were taken to different hospitals.

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    ^ I wonder what Chalerm will have to say about that.....

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    Police hunting Suthin's killers seek images captured by the public - The Nation

    Police hunting Suthin's killers seek images captured by the public

    The Nation
    January 29, 2014 1:00 am

    Police are trying to locate people who shot videos and took pictures, widely distributed online, of a violent incident last Sunday near Wat Sri-iam in which anti-government protest leader Suthin Taratin was shot and killed.


    They hope to obtain files that would yield much clearer images for police investigators, while the picture-takers will be regarded as eyewitnesses, Bang Na police said yesterday.

    Relying on direct eyewitness accounts may result in better identification of the attackers, said Bang Na police. The officers singled out a man in military camouflage dress who was seen pointing an object in his right hand at a truck in which Suthin was riding. An initial autopsy result showed that Suthin was hit by bullets fired from different directions.

    A source with the Metropolitan Police Bureau speculated on whether Suthin was killed by stray bullets or shot to death deliberately. "The latter is more likely as he, a core leader of the People's Army to Overthrow the Thaksin Regime, took a headshot. He was seen in media footage checking on a number of people at a polling station in Bueng Kum district," he said.

    Meanwhile, deputy Democrat Party spokesperson Mallika Boonmeetrakool made public a compilation of photos and video clips of the incident posted online and in social media. She called on the police and the government's Centre for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO) to use her compilation, or to rely on online materials, in their investigation into the incident.

    A Nation News Agency reporter recounted the incident, saying a group of men "with a pro-election attitude" were present in the Bang Na area last Sunday. It said they allegedly intimidated a photographer by telling him not to cover the incident.

    The unnamed photographer said the men were part of a group of 50 who openly showed support for the voting and were armed with batons and steel rods. Arriving in front of Wat Sri-iam, they told him, "Go away. Don't take pictures… Do your job elsewhere."

    The photographer said he signalled that he was quitting taking pictures and relocated with an NMG news crew to the nearby Novotel Hotel.

    This occurred at around 1.45pm, after several gunshots were heard. It turned out later that protest leader Suthin had been shot and eight supporters were assaulted.

    The pro-election group of men armed with rocks and wooden sticks later attacked vehicles belonging to the protesters, as widely seen in online images and video clips.

    At 1.55pm, 30 policemen on motorcycles and on foot arrived at the scene. Ambulances and rescue vehicles later took victims of the assaults to hospital.

    The chronicle of events began at around 11.30am when NMG reporters spotted Suthin and other leaders heading to a polling station in the temple.

    At around 12.30pm, around 100 protesters arrived and asked the station director to stop the election process and close down the station, where around 20 policemen in uniform and plainclothes were stationed.

    At 1pm, the core leaders on a truck installed with loudspeakers announced that all polling stations in Bang Na district had closed and began to move off in a motorcade along Srinakharin Road.

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    And some other items....from the Bangkok Post.....quite a lot of violent incidents occurring......



    Unidentified body found near protest site

    29 Jan 2014 : The body of an unidentified man believed to be an anti-government protester was discovered yesterday near Samian Nari temple on a local road adjacent to Vibhavadi Rangsit.

    Samran bomb attack 'politically motivated'


    29 Jan 2014 : A bomb attack on the house of Samran Rodphet, a key member of the anti-government People's Democratic Reform Committee, is thought to have been politically motivated.

    Police yet to link Sutin death to reds

    29 Jan 2014 : Police have not yet concluded whether the killing of protest leader Sutin Tharatin was the work of red-shirt members.

    One dead and two injured in day of protest violence

    28 Jan 2014 : Two men were injured in protest violence, while an anti-government demonstrator was found shot and tortured to death and bomb went off at a rally-leader's house on Tuesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    Btw, it was said a group of Cambodians had crossed over the border last week....just in case you missed it.
    Whoa, how often does that happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    Btw, it was said a group of Cambodians had crossed over the border last week....just in case you missed it.
    Whoa, how often does that happen?
    Funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    Pornthip is a moron, end of. No credibility and utterly compromised.
    Your opinion only, mate, one shared by a few farang wannabe Thai politicos and the red shirts.

    The collective politically unbiased brain power of whom is about equal to an egg-cup full of weak battery acid, caustic, but limited in its effect.

    Trawling through all available reports on Pornthip, I find her more praised than damned, and all the cr*p I read about her comes from red shirt supporters, or sensationalists looking for a "ain't it awful" angle,.......end of.

    Pornthip is held in respect by her peers, nationally or internationally (that doesn't mean farang armchair politicos) and trusted by a large swathe of the Thai population.

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    What d'ya say about Suthin's relatives wanting Pornthip to perform Suthin's autopsy?

    They couldn't trust the police forensics doctors, but could trust Pornthip over and above the red shirt cop body butchers, eh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    ^ that's the point, ENT, 1) is not my opinion, it is factually proven by her actions being wrong in all these cases. She did not meet the international standards that she claims to and is expected to.

    2) Both are equally bad if you let your political bias affect your professionalism.
    I don't know what constitutes proof in your mind BB, you'd better come up with these "factually proven" actions, (specifically) to convince anyone. The international standards of the time OK'd the GT200, until 2010, then the device was discredited. Until then, she could only work as directed with it, as did all users of that device, or do you think that she was the only person or authority involved? Think again.

    Waving the GT200 flag around all day ain't gonna prove anything, because you glaringly ignore the fact that many world government agencies were using the GT200 at the time it was being used in Thailand.

    Now just go ahead and try and dig up some "proof" that her political leanings interfered with her professionalism, I doubt that you'll find any, unless it's the oft chanted mantra of her being a yellow shirt on the board of CRES, as if by accepting a position on that board to counter the influence of the red shirted police forensics unit were a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Waving the GT200 flag around all day ain't gonna prove anything
    Certainly won't prove there are explosives present.....55555

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    Bangkok Policeman Accused of Shooting Protester
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    ^ I wonder what Chalerm will have to say about that.....
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    Bangkok Paste is now reporting Erawan Centre casualties as 10 dead 571 injured. How did it get to so many injured? By my memory from reported at various incidents it should be around 150. Maybe many smaller isolated fights etc not reported in media? Also I note there is no breakdown if red v yellow injuries
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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    What d'ya say about Suthin's relatives wanting Pornthip to perform Suthin's autopsy?
    I would be a lot happier if she was performing Suthep's autopsy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcot.net

    Cambodian citizens implicated in murder of protester
    Isoc denies foreign forces in Thailand
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    30/01/2014

    The Internal Security Operations Command (Isoc) on Thursday rejected a claim by anti-government protesters that foreigners who were now bearing arms against them had entered the country via the Cambodian border.

    The Burapha and Suranaree task forces had checked movements across the border for the past three months, acting on orders from army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha, and found no evidence to support the claim, Isoc spokesman Col Banpot Poonpien said.

    He did not deny that armed foreigners could sneak into the country in many areas because of the long porous nature of the border.

    The Burapha task force mans security areas on the border with Cambodia in eastern provinces, and the Suranaree Task Force is responsible for the northeastern border.

    Protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban of the People's Democratic Reform Committee has alleged that a special force from Cambodia had been brought in to attack demonstrators.

    Cambodian Foreign Ministry spokesman Koy Kuong dismissed the claims on Tuesday and said the Cambodians were in Thailand for work and business.

    A member of the Thai navy top brass, Rear Admiral Winai klom-in, alleged on Jan 21 that Cambodians have been smuggled into Thailand to carry out violent attacks on anti-government protesters - similar, he said, to what happened prior to the red-shirt turmoil in Bangkok mid-2010.

    Rear Admiral Winai, commander of the Navy’s Naval Special Warfare Command, was reported as saying 10 vans carrying Cambodians entered Thailand through the eastern border that Monday night.

    There were also unconfirmed media reports that Cambodian speaking men with no IDs had been blocked by protesters from entering the Wat Sri-iam polling station in Bang Na area on Jan 26, before the fatal shooting of Sutin Tharatin.

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    B700,000 reward for wanted bomber | Bangkok Post: news

    Warrants out for bomber, shooter


    Published: 27 Feb 2014 at 16.50
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    Arrest warrants have been issued for the main suspect in the Jan 19 grenade attack on protesters at the Victory Monument rally site and a gunman in connection with the fatal shooting of anti-government protest leader Sutin Tharatin at Wat Sri-iam on Jan 26, Royal Thai Police spokesman Piya Uthayo said on Thursday.

    The Victory Monument suspected bomber was identified as Kritsada Chaikae, 43, of Kanchanaburi, Pol Maj Gen Piya told a press conference.

    The Criminal Court approved the police request for an arrest warrant after the DNA tests based on samples taken from the suspect’s hat and T-shirt proved positive.

    Pol Maj Gen Piya said there is a reward of 500,000 baht offered for information leading to the suspect’s arrest, posted by Metropolitan Police Bureau (MPB) chief Kamronwit Thoopkrachang, and another of 200,000 baht approved by national police chief Adul Saengsinkaew.

    The court also issued an arrest warrant for an unidentified gunman in the Sutin murder case. He is wanted on charges of carrying firearms in public without permission and shooting a firearm in public without reasonable grounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    shooting a firearm in public without reasonable grounds.
    What would be deemed reasonable?...

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