Thread: Army: Tanks, gun movements just 'routine'

Originally Posted by Norton

Changing to white

are you sure that is not the rice farmers mobilising ?

Originally Posted by Norton

Of course it is

and chinese , though they look down on the mainlanders

Originally Posted by Norton

Of course it is. Albeit an elected one.

god, you are joking right ? how is one party political system credible in an election ? there is no credible opposition in Singapore, like in Thailand. All these little shitty Asian dictatorships can't stand a credible opposition to question the fragile ego of their facing saving corrupted Asian leaders. That's basically the truth of it.

Originally Posted by Norton

Next time you're in Singapore give the cop who stops you for speeding a few Sing dollars. I promise to come visit you in Changi Prison.

petty corruption at the bottom is harmless, it's not as damaging as the grand corruption at the top. That's what you keep missing with Thailand politics.

Originally Posted by Norton

you have decided Singapore is a corrupt country

I haven't decided anything, if you have done business with big caps or government entities in big deals, you would know what I mean. They are a corrupted bunch trying to play innocent in a face saving attempt to portrait themselves as "civilized" and "westernized". They aren't.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Originally Posted by Norton

And last but not least an enforcement and judiciary dedicated to impartial compliance with law.

Yep, well that's where the whole idea comes to a screeching halt

Originally Posted by Norton

It can and has been done even in countries which have a "culture" of corruption. It can be done in Thailand if the will is there.

In spite of the current push to end corruption, the simple fact is, any real will to end corruption in Thailand is sorely lacking by all parties.

Exactly - cause the people who run things here have allowed it to become institutionalized - blame some Poo Yai "hero" from pre-1932 for introducing the Chinese to set up a bureaucracy with no salary, but a "commission" for every baht they got for him - it's called feudal - and the system hasn't changed. That's why we're facing this today..the descendants of those families are the ones out there leading the charge. They feel Thailand is "theirs" - because their grandfathers and great uncles are, um, "Stakeholders" in the real sense of the word!

A new world Thailand has left them bewildered and lashing out.. Time to put them down - or send them packing back to China. I wonder if their army pals and their boss will order the military to push out Yingluck before the end of the month so they can all go off for their long-planned Chinese New Year on the 31st. Wouldn't want to fuck up their parties now would they

Yeah....leave the place in the hands of indigenous Thais [if one can find them].
That would work.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

indigenous Thais

No such thing RS. Unless you count the Tai who inhabited the swamps near Bangkok. Even they are believed linked to Chinese DNA. Genetically majority of "Thais" are linked to China. Others to India and some to Pacific Islanders.

18th century immigration from China was big. Married locals, had Luk Jin families many who to this day control the bulk of Thai economy and wealth.

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

indigenous Thais

No such thing RS. Unless you count the Tai who inhabited the swamps near Bangkok. Even they are believed linked to Chinese DNA. Genetically majority of "Thais" are linked to China. Others to India and some to Pacific Islanders.

18th century immigration from China was big. Married locals, had Luk Jin families many who to this day control the bulk of Thai economy and wealth.

Yeah, Norts.
I understand these things.

I was being slightly mischievous towards my comments above.

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No you weren't. You were trying to pretend there aren't clear delineations between the people who inhabit this area historically (as in before time) and who have been shit on by various invading economic rulers. Norton points it out - there is no indigenous Thai - there are only indigenous dark skinned people who've been over-run by northerners who have exploited them (my words now). You try to twist it otherwise

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Norton

Of course it is. Albeit an elected one.

god, you are joking right ? how is one party political system credible in an election ? there is no credible opposition in Singapore, like in Thailand. All these little shitty Asian dictatorships can't stand a credible opposition to question the fragile ego of their facing saving corrupted Asian leaders. That's basically the truth of it.

The opposition parties' inability to build up credibility does not make a dictatorship. Singapore is a seriously flawed democracy, but calling it a dictatorship is plain incorrect.

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Forget it. Butters just hates Thaksin and fantasizes over a reach-around session with Abhisit

Originally Posted by KimDidMeGood

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Norton

Of course it is. Albeit an elected one.

god, you are joking right ? how is one party political system credible in an election ? there is no credible opposition in Singapore, like in Thailand. All these little shitty Asian dictatorships can't stand a credible opposition to question the fragile ego of their facing saving corrupted Asian leaders. That's basically the truth of it.

The opposition parties' inability to build up credibility does not make a dictatorship. Singapore is a seriously flawed democracy, but calling it a dictatorship is plain incorrect.

an opposition might be unable to build credibility when it is intimidated by the ruling party and not given access to media or political channels to express their opinions.

Singapore is a dictatorship, calling it anything else is delusional. An election is not a blank cheque for the Democracy label. With that standard, we could call Cambodia and Zimbabwe examples of great working democracies too

Only uneducated idiots would think that, and thanks again for demonstrating that there are still quite a few here.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

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Forget it. Butters just hates Thaksin and fantasizes over a reach-around session with Abhisit

you do realize how much Boonme like you sound ? you seem to know no limit to your ridiculous and delusional rhetorics. Educate yourself, I bet you haven't finished high school with that mentality.

Au contraire.

Fair enough actually

Fairly routine.
Town cryer ,
"All is well"

I think I get it- it's not Democracy if the public doesn't vote for butters choice- coincidentally the same choice as the people that employ him.

sab, we had this silly conversation over 100 times, and you still don't get it. Suffrage is not the only process in Democracy, it's only one step. I understand you are becoming like a dumb local by staying all year in some Issaan shithole village, but even someone with a former functioning brain with 2 bits of neurons left could get that.

When tyrants get elected, it doesn't make a democracy, au contraire.

Tyrant Regime =! Democracy

Thaksin Regime =! Democracy

Democrats == Beginning of Democracy, even though unpopular

the real question is then:

does Thailand want a popular authoritarian regime or a difficult unpopular Democracy ?

we all know Thais aren't too smart and always choose simplicity, hence authoritarian regime is their favorite choice.

Does choosing your tyrant means you are living the Democracy dream ? of course not, only Thais and dummies would think like that

Originally Posted by Butterfly

we all know Thais aren't too smart and always choose simplicity, hence authoritarian regime is their favorite choice.

Wow! Just wow! You're unfuckingbelievable, Butterfly!

Originally Posted by Butterfly

we all know

"we"? Your use of plural is quite singular. Speak for yourself, dude.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Thais aren't too smart

Do you realize that your generalization is just plain racist?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

aren't too smart and always choose simplicity,

In my book, choosing simplicity over unnecessary complications is a sign of intelligence, more often than not.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

hence authoritarian regime is their favorite choice.

This claim has been consistently proven wrong by the votes that the Thai majority expressed, each time they have been allowed to elect their government. If we just look at 2011, can you really assert with a straight face that the Thais' choice Yingluck was more "authoritarian" than the alternative represented by Abbhisit who had just ruled the country mostly under emrgency laws? C'mon, really...

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Choosing your own way for the first time in history against the wishes of the feudal minority BY FORCE is an empowering way for the majority to become the REAL Establishment. And the traditional elites know it.

THIS IS NOT A FIGHT BETWEEN THAKSIN AND OLD FAMILY MONEY - THIS IS A FIGHT BETWEEN THE RISE OF THE WORKING CLASS AGAINST THE OLD FAMILY MONEY. THAKSIN IS THE TOOL FOR THE SOCIAL UPRISING - DON'T YOU THAKSIN HATERS GET THAT YET??

BECAUSE, GUESS WHAT, THE RICH CHINK-SAKDINA-MILITARY FAMILIES GOT THAT LONG AGO...

AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

So in small caps, do you really pick the side of endless bowing and scraping and 30% to an unelected cabal to do business here? WHO AGAIN IS REALLY CORRUPT AND FUKING UP YOUR BUSINESS?

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

THIS IS NOT A FIGHT BETWEEN THAKSIN AND OLD FAMILY MONEY - THIS IS A FIGHT BETWEEN THE RISE OF THE WORKING CLASS AGAINST THE OLD FAMILY MONEY.

Seriously, I almost wish that was what was going on.

Personally, I see it as one set of thieves trying to oust a different set of thieves (and it makes no difference as to who is currently 'in" and who is not) using a lot of poor misguided fools as pawns.