are you sure that is not the rice farmers mobilising ?Originally Posted by Norton
and chinese , though they look down on the mainlandersOriginally Posted by Norton
are you sure that is not the rice farmers mobilising ?Originally Posted by Norton
and chinese , though they look down on the mainlandersOriginally Posted by Norton
Yep, well that's where the whole idea comes to a screeching halt
Exactly - cause the people who run things here have allowed it to become institutionalized - blame some Poo Yai "hero" from pre-1932 for introducing the Chinese to set up a bureaucracy with no salary, but a "commission" for every baht they got for him - it's called feudal - and the system hasn't changed. That's why we're facing this today..the descendants of those families are the ones out there leading the charge. They feel Thailand is "theirs" - because their grandfathers and great uncles are, um, "Stakeholders" in the real sense of the word!
A new world Thailand has left them bewildered and lashing out.. Time to put them down - or send them packing back to China. I wonder if their army pals and their boss will order the military to push out Yingluck before the end of the month so they can all go off for their long-planned Chinese New Year on the 31st. Wouldn't want to fuck up their parties now would they
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My mind is not for rent to any God or Government, There's no hope for your discontent - the changes are permanent!
god, you are joking right ? how is one party political system credible in an election ? there is no credible opposition in Singapore, like in Thailand. All these little shitty Asian dictatorships can't stand a credible opposition to question the fragile ego of their facing saving corrupted Asian leaders. That's basically the truth of it.Originally Posted by Norton
petty corruption at the bottom is harmless, it's not as damaging as the grand corruption at the top. That's what you keep missing with Thailand politics.Originally Posted by Norton
I haven't decided anything, if you have done business with big caps or government entities in big deals, you would know what I mean. They are a corrupted bunch trying to play innocent in a face saving attempt to portrait themselves as "civilized" and "westernized". They aren't.Originally Posted by Norton
No such thing RS. Unless you count the Tai who inhabited the swamps near Bangkok. Even they are believed linked to Chinese DNA. Genetically majority of "Thais" are linked to China. Others to India and some to Pacific Islanders.Originally Posted by Rural Surin
18th century immigration from China was big. Married locals, had Luk Jin families many who to this day control the bulk of Thai economy and wealth.
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No you weren't. You were trying to pretend there aren't clear delineations between the people who inhabit this area historically (as in before time) and who have been shit on by various invading economic rulers. Norton points it out - there is no indigenous Thai - there are only indigenous dark skinned people who've been over-run by northerners who have exploited them (my words now). You try to twist it otherwise
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Forget it. Butters just hates Thaksin and fantasizes over a reach-around session with Abhisit
an opposition might be unable to build credibility when it is intimidated by the ruling party and not given access to media or political channels to express their opinions.
Singapore is a dictatorship, calling it anything else is delusional. An election is not a blank cheque for the Democracy label. With that standard, we could call Cambodia and Zimbabwe examples of great working democracies too
Only uneducated idiots would think that, and thanks again for demonstrating that there are still quite a few here.
My attempt was to point out the foaming hatred towards certain ethnicities that you, or anyone else, cannot resolve or replace.
You'll go to your grave with this ill-begotten presence and angst.
And...I am quite familiar with the geo-political ethnic history of the broader region.
It's just that when we have to pronounce such, rhetorically, all the reasoning becomes rather moot. A conduit for our personal politics.
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Fairly routine.
Town cryer ,
"All is well"
I think I get it- it's not Democracy if the public doesn't vote for butters choice- coincidentally the same choice as the people that employ him.
sab, we had this silly conversation over 100 times, and you still don't get it. Suffrage is not the only process in Democracy, it's only one step. I understand you are becoming like a dumb local by staying all year in some Issaan shithole village, but even someone with a former functioning brain with 2 bits of neurons left could get that.
When tyrants get elected, it doesn't make a democracy, au contraire.
Tyrant Regime =! Democracy
Thaksin Regime =! Democracy
Democrats == Beginning of Democracy, even though unpopular
the real question is then:
does Thailand want a popular authoritarian regime or a difficult unpopular Democracy ?
we all know Thais aren't too smart and always choose simplicity, hence authoritarian regime is their favorite choice.
Does choosing your tyrant means you are living the Democracy dream ? of course not, only Thais and dummies would think like that
Wow! Just wow! You're unfuckingbelievable, Butterfly!
"we"? Your use of plural is quite singular. Speak for yourself, dude.
Do you realize that your generalization is just plain racist?
In my book, choosing simplicity over unnecessary complications is a sign of intelligence, more often than not.
This claim has been consistently proven wrong by the votes that the Thai majority expressed, each time they have been allowed to elect their government. If we just look at 2011, can you really assert with a straight face that the Thais' choice Yingluck was more "authoritarian" than the alternative represented by Abbhisit who had just ruled the country mostly under emrgency laws? C'mon, really...
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Choosing your own way for the first time in history against the wishes of the feudal minority BY FORCE is an empowering way for the majority to become the REAL Establishment. And the traditional elites know it.
THIS IS NOT A FIGHT BETWEEN THAKSIN AND OLD FAMILY MONEY - THIS IS A FIGHT BETWEEN THE RISE OF THE WORKING CLASS AGAINST THE OLD FAMILY MONEY. THAKSIN IS THE TOOL FOR THE SOCIAL UPRISING - DON'T YOU THAKSIN HATERS GET THAT YET??
BECAUSE, GUESS WHAT, THE RICH CHINK-SAKDINA-MILITARY FAMILIES GOT THAT LONG AGO...
AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
So in small caps, do you really pick the side of endless bowing and scraping and 30% to an unelected cabal to do business here? WHO AGAIN IS REALLY CORRUPT AND FUKING UP YOUR BUSINESS?
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