Thread: CCTV shows girl, six, being led away before she is raped and murdered in Thailand

Originally Posted by Rainfall

Originally Posted by Fluke

Originally Posted by Rainfall

The self-righteous already presented their ideas on how to punish him. Sorry gentlemen, the relatives of the victims can't execute him, that would be sharia and we don't want that. Best to leave it to Thailand's law system, they have the death penalty, and he most likely will get it. And if they release him tomorrow, we can at least shake our heads again.

Its extremely unpleasant of you to use this horrible case to further your Political causes .
Reading between the lines, its quite clear what you are saying .
The death of a young girl shouldnt be used as a Political tool

Can you do anything in this forum but badmouth Thailand?

Was that reply to me ?
Your reply doesnt fit with the preceding post , by myself .
Most odd .
I didnt even mention Thailand at all .
I feel that diverting the attention away from your advocation of Sharia law and falsely accusing me

Originally Posted by leemo

Any righteous anti-capital punishment princes having second thoughts?

No, capital punishment is wrong. Because humans are fallible and can get the wrong answer. There are innumerable cases that prove this.

Originally Posted by tomta

Originally Posted by leemo

Any righteous anti-capital punishment princes having second thoughts?

No, capital punishment is wrong. Because humans are fallible and can get the wrong answer. There are innumerable cases that prove this.

Not to mention that capital punishment does not deter would be criminals.

^^ Maybe not but it 100% stops them re-offending

fokin sickening storyu RIP Cartoon

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Its not a good idea to punish people who question things , its quite Islamic

One of the rare cases big brother caught a criminal.

Originally Posted by Fluke

Its not a good idea to punish people who question things , its quite Islamic

I didn't say 'things' did I. I implied a small punishment for human rights idiots who would cry that castrating paedophiles wasn't fair etc...

I would personally recommend a public annoyance fine of 500 Euros and a week in jail.

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

Originally Posted by Fluke

Its not a good idea to punish people who question things , its quite Islamic

I didn't say 'things' did I. I implied a small punishment for human rights idiots who would cry that castrating paedophiles wasn't fair etc...

I would personally recommend a public annoyance fine of 500 Euros and a week in jail.

It is said that castration wouldnt work because some people just like the empowerment and control over other people .
Castrated people could still abuse , attack and kill other people .
So there is an argument that castration would be ineffective .
So, whether it actually is or not, people who claim this should be able to voice their opinion without facing persecution .

So, whether it actually is or not, people who claim this should be able to voice their opinion without facing persecution .

Well, many things should be. We should all be able to grow our own fruit and vegetables but we can't. We should be able to use public transport without having our eyes and ears bombarded by advertising but we can't.

This is all deemed acceptable though, but suggest any kind of physical harm as a deterrent to those who harm innocents and you find yourself in an argument.

Pretty awful when you think about it.

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

So, whether it actually is or not, people who claim this should be able to voice their opinion without facing persecution .

Well, many things should be. We should all be able to grow our own fruit and vegetables but we can't. We should be able to use public transport without having our eyes and ears bombarded by advertising but we can't.

This is all deemed acceptable though, but suggest any kind of physical harm as a deterrent to those who harm innocents and you find yourself in an argument.

Pretty awful when you think about it.

Although the issue is that castration isnt actually a deterrent .
If you feel that chopping parts of peoples bodies off as a punishment and punishing anyone that opposes that , that is Sharia law .

that is Sharia law .

the needs of the victims are mostly ignored when punishment is meted out by the courts, both here in thailand and in the west.

one very pleasing aspect of sharia law is that the victims have a say in the punishment and in the carrying out of the punishment.

if you want to know what the most suitable punishment is for the chap that raped and murdered the little girl, then surely you must ask the parents of the girl, for they and only they are experiencing the loss that this crime has caused them.

Originally Posted by taxexile

that is Sharia law .

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one very pleasing aspect of sharia law is that the victims have a say in the punishment and in the carrying out of the punishment.

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The problem with that is that it gives the criminal the opportunity to pay off the Family for a lighter sentence , which means that rich people can get away with crimes because they can afford to pay off the victims of their crimes

^^ Pay offs are not exclusive to Sharia Law so that's an irrelevant commment.

Why didn't you just say, 'Good point Taxexile, some aspects of Sharia Law I agree with'?

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

^^ Pay offs are not exclusive to Sharia Law so that's an irrelevant commment.

Although the cutting off of peoples body parts as punishment is exclusive to Sharia law and wasnt that what you were suggesting ?

That's correct.

fluke

The problem with that is that it gives the criminal the opportunity to pay off the Family for a lighter sentence , which means that rich people can get away with crimes because they can afford to pay off the victims of their crimes

why is that a problem, it seems that your wishes come before those of the victims and you only want to see the wealthy imprisoned.

if the family agree to a payoff, then why is that a problem for you. the family can always refuse the payoff if they wish to see the rich criminal jailed. i believe that in some sharia societies the court sets the punishment and the victims of the crime can ask for the courts to reduce the punishment.

a kind of equivalent to the roman emperors thumbs up or down for the gladiators.

Originally Posted by taxexile

fluke

The problem with that is that it gives the criminal the opportunity to pay off the Family for a lighter sentence , which means that rich people can get away with crimes because they can afford to pay off the victims of their crimes

why is that a problem, it seems that your wishes come before those of the victims and you only want to see the wealthy imprisoned.

if the family agree to a payoff, then why is that a problem for you. the family can always refuse the payoff if they wish to see the rich criminal jailed.

That would allow rich people to live outside and above the law .
A rich person could become a mass murderer and all he would have to do is pay off his victims families and continue with his killing spree .
Also , it would encourage rapists and murderers to target poor families because its more likely that they would accept a pay off .

Originally Posted by taxexile

fluke

The problem with that is that it gives the criminal the opportunity to pay off the Family for a lighter sentence , which means that rich people can get away with crimes because they can afford to pay off the victims of their crimes

why is that a problem, it seems that your wishes come before those of the victims and you only want to see the wealthy imprisoned.

Quite the opposite actually, I feel that everyone should live by the same laws and face the same punishment for any crimes they commit .
The laws of the land should be followed by everyone equally and the punishment should also be the same for evryone

^^ Not if his hands had been amputated.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by tomta

Originally Posted by leemo

Any righteous anti-capital punishment princes having second thoughts?

No, capital punishment is wrong. Because humans are fallible and can get the wrong answer. There are innumerable cases that prove this.

Not to mention that capital punishment does not deter would be criminals.

agree 100%

Hand amputation probably would be a deterrent in cases where evidence was undeniable.

Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

Hand amputation probably would be a deterrent in cases where evidence was undeniable.

Double hand amputation.