What I was really looking for was firm independent evidence to prove that the crime Statistics in between Thailand and Singapore I posted (145) are some how bogus?, and not just your personal opinion as to there validity ,you say they are unproven why not do a bit of research and prove it one way or the other? lets just start for openers, are you stating that the rubbish and filth strewn street,s in every little town in Thailand are the same as they are in Singapore and that their draconian laws on this score has nothing to do with the stark difference?