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    Quote Originally Posted by gaysexbyproxy View Post
    I don't aspire to be Singaporean, and simultaneously do not wish for Thailand to imitate their punishment methods--in schools or otherwise--despite the unsubstantiated claims that Singapore is a truly civilized society or that their economic success is owed to harsh sanctions against wrongdoers.

    No diss on Singapore.

    Here's the bottom line: The purpose of schools is severely undermined by cowboy teachers who lash out when annoyed, whether they are well-meaning or in the absence of other effective authority figures or whtever. We need to be calm, firm and supportive. Will this work with every child? No, but that's everywhere. And nobody should be striking a child unless they are the child's parents (and within reason).

    Yeah, it's just my opinion. But a damned good opinion. And if I'm not mistaken, that's what this forum exists to facilitate. I will not be sanctioning or avocating violence aginst children.
    What I was really looking for was firm independent evidence to prove that the crime Statistics in between Thailand and Singapore I posted (145) are some how bogus?, and not just your personal opinion as to there validity ,you say they are unproven why not do a bit of research and prove it one way or the other? lets just start for openers, are you stating that the rubbish and filth strewn street,s in every little town in Thailand are the same as they are in Singapore and that their draconian laws on this score has nothing to do with the stark difference?
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    gayboy and kunt willy are the same, you're misguided in most of your thinking.

    Come on BOYS< IF you know how to control absolute lazy brats to at least LISTEN number one and then apply that, then PLEASE show us ALL.
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    The real problem in the west is that teens are being trained for jobs and not humanity, in schools that are more like temporary detention centers. There is no liberal education as all subjects are required by the state's education department. There is no time or freedom to explore ideas. There are no ideas. There are no exceptions to any rules. They're only there, biding their time, until society deems them ready for the workforce, and they're clawing at the gates to get away from the suffocating, arrogant authority that forces ignorance upon them each and every day they're detained.

    "In the second place, if Prussia can pervert the benign influences of education to the support of arbitrary power, we surely can employ them for the support and perpetuation of republican institutions."
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    IMHO where there's smoke, there's fire. Teachers don't normally discipline/lash out/hit/beat/resort to physical violence--whatever you want to call it, for no reason. Obviously some teachers can take more than others. Wish we could talk to the teacher and see what she had put up with already from this student. Just an assumption on my part, but I doubt this was the first time he acted up, and I doubt it was not only about his homework.
    When I was in school some teachers would let the things I did slide, others were straight out with the paddle--and used it without batting an eye, but it was always done for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sampattaya View Post
    IMHO where there's smoke, there's fire. Teachers don't normally discipline/lash out/hit/beat/resort to physical violence--whatever you want to call it, for no reason. Obviously some teachers can take more than others. Wish we could talk to the teacher and see what she had put up with already from this student. Just an assumption on my part, but I doubt this was the first time he acted up, and I doubt it was not only about his homework.
    When I was in school some teachers would let the things I did slide, others were straight out with the paddle--and used it without batting an eye, but it was always done for a reason.
    He's not fully and sincerely participating in the manufacture of consent. When he understands that society only wants him to balance the ball on his nose and accept his fish gratefully, the persecution and humiliation will cease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator View Post
    you're missed guided in all of your thinking.
    Fail.

    Perhaps somebody should've hit you more.

    I never claimed to have solved the conundrum of adolescent discipline. I merely consider teachers striking or excessively intimidating students to be gross misjudgment and contrary to the principles of enrichment teachers are entrusted to strive for.

    If you think teachers' authority truly extends to displaying violent anger to make their point clear, I'd really like to hear your explanation. And lazy ass comments along the lines of "But the lazy kunts just won't listen" won't cut it. If that's what you think, well, you're the lazy kunt, hey.

    For those of you who were subjected to corporal punishment in your youth and feel that it positively molded your character, I can't argue with you. Maybe it did. But I maintain that it is not suitable for all children and has undesirable and damaging consequences in many cases. The ethical issues aside, it's not an effective one-size-fits-all solution to disciplinary or motivational problems.

    Teachers in Thailand have inadequate training and are products of the same flawed system, so the blame isn't merely with them. Nor is this a peculiarly Thai problem. It's a human problem, and a real motherfucker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaysexbyproxy
    Quote: Originally Posted by Eliminator View Post you're missed guided in all of your thinking. Fail. Perhaps somebody should've hit you more.
    Maybe if they had hit him less, he would've had that extra bit of time to learn how to spell "misguided".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator View Post

    Come on BOYS< IF you know how to control absolute IDIOTS to show them how to LISTEN number one and then apply that, then PLEASE show us ALL.
    Pehaps theres some kids that cant be taught? Is it the teachers fault? In some cases yes and in a lot of cases no. Should the kids who want to learn, be subjected to this kind of disruption?

    Whats the answer? I have some ideas, but i certainly dont have the time, nor the articulation to be able to put it here, not without someone putting words in my mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator View Post
    In general, kids nowadays are immoral, disrespectful, irresponsible and shameless.

    This is what the kids today are. Sad to see but the main problem is the PARENTS themselves do little if ANYTHING to help the teachers.
    Just found this article in todays "Gunchester Evening news" ( my home City)yeah the "do gooders" in society have left The whole Country a terrible legacy ,our parents and teachers give us a wallop when we stepped out of line ,which is now called "Child abuse" the end result of that fuzzy thinking is here in this article for all to see Revealed: Shocking scale of serious crime by Greater Manchester children - Manchester Evening News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    IF you know how to control absolute lazy brats to at least LISTEN number one and then apply that, then PLEASE show us ALL.
    Go to their house and pistol whip parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    IF you know how to control absolute lazy brats to at least LISTEN number one and then apply that, then PLEASE show us ALL.
    Go to their house and pistol whip parents.
    It was not needed in my day cos parents disciplined their own kids without Interference from the left wing politically correct Nanny state ,and it worked ,oh yeah it worked ,the living testimony to that line of thought is my 3 grown up kids who all have good secure jobs ,their own homes paid for. with a good Married life thrown in ,just like their old man who besides having 42 years of Married bliss till Moreen was sadly taken away from me in Mar 03 , I made a very nice piece of Change being self employed for well over 30 years , of which I am now enjoying to the full here in Thailand

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