I once wound up a Christian teacher so much that he slapped me (I didn't turn the other cheek).Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier
To this day I'm not sure who is going to hell for that one: him or me.
I once wound up a Christian teacher so much that he slapped me (I didn't turn the other cheek).Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier
To this day I'm not sure who is going to hell for that one: him or me.
When I was at school the pesky little brats where sorted out at the end of a rattan cane wielded by an angry Headmaster. That brat being me.
Thing was he had our respect simply because every time he fuked us up it was well deserved.
We learned discipline and respect from our Headmaster.
He canned fuk out of me but I liked him same as my mates who he also thrashed fok out of.
Well anyone who has ever tried to enforce anything on me, ever, through physical force has never had my respect and never will.Originally Posted by ozall
Does that make me an undisciplined, disrespectful, member of society.
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Aunty, you would of been a whining little cock sucker at school sucking up to the teachers hoping to become the teachers pet.
Every school has them, they usually have red hair and are skinny white pasty fokers and every other kid punches them and does shit like that then gets canned for it.
You where that red headed kid Eh Aunty.
Bring it on; but the bottom line is that their would be little need for it if respect and disciple was learnt at an early age, At least I had the guts to to accept my punishment when I screwed up. In my day, when you got a belting from the teacher, the old man was notified and then he would give you another one. Just part of growing up which and with good lessons learnt.
I got caned and slapped by plenty of teachers, it only made me hate them. Best part of getting caned was they wouldn't tell my parents, because when they found out I got in trouble we had talks that could go on for hours where I had to explain myself like an adult.
It's up to the parents to make sure he does his homework, chances are they don't give a fuck.
This is some kind of foundational fact or maybe a type of incantation for the let's-beat-seven-shades-of-shit-out-of-the-little-fuckers gang but I have no idea what it means. What respect and discipline does it teach and how does the threat or use of violence do that? As far as I can see, the respect amounts to knowing your place and the discipline amounts to fear of a violent response if you fail to be sufficiently 'respectful'. Well, that's hardly something I want schools to teach. And nor do I want them to teach the rather obvious lesson that violence is an acceptable means to enforce the arbitrary will of - or to overcome the failings of - whoever happens to hold power.It's about learning respect and disciple in society full stop.
To me the notion that violence is somehow a necessary component of learning respect and discipline is analogous to saying that you need to be Christian/religious to have moral values and integrity.
Being that they were abolished around 1940ish the latter.Originally Posted by piwanoi
Not sure what your point is though?
The point is quite simple ,I have personally seen the steady deterioration of standards of behavior in Children in the last 3 decades ,you can only lament about something you have never ever seen , juvenile crime is now in record proportions along with expelling.s from schools, I along with many others know what the cause is , lack of discipline both in the home and at school, of course if you think my statement is some how not correct by all means say your reason for it , Violent youth crime up a third - Telegraph the grim figures which spells it out quite starkly are there for you to completely ignore
That doesn't strike me as simple at all. Just because I've never personally seen a workhouse that doesn't mean I've never seen anything. Have you personally experienced a workhouse?Originally Posted by piwanoi
I think parents encourage the 'little emporer' syndrome in their kids - it is an extention of their own desire to maximise face, imo.
Youtube have taken down the clip posted but here's another at it!
Never, thats why I said previously I only write about what I have personally seen , like the grim statistics about the truly appalling rise in Juvenile crime in my last link post #66 ,of which you fail to give a reason, so unlike myself having give my opinion as to the cause of it ,which according to the article seems to dove tail nicely with mine ,lack of discipline and a "softy softly" punishment for the perpetrators . whats your reason for it?, or are you in complete denial of the well researched article?
So in fact what you have "personally seen" are reported stats from an article. Interesting that you say I've ignored the stats (like I have any real interest in UK-centric stats to begin with) when you've either missed or neglected the following from your own link:
Presumably because it doesn't quite dovetail?A Home Office spokesman said: "There is no evidence that the number of violent crimes committed by young people is increasing. The rise in cautions and convictions represents better enforcement and an improved criminal justice response to violent crime."
Golden rule #1, always believe what a labour politician says cos his blabbering just does not make any sense ( The RISE in cautions and convictions)!!!) , I get weekly feedback from my 3 grown up kids back there in "Gunchester" which suggest every thing I write about rising juvenile crime is correct ,of course why not just come out with it and say its a load of bollocks ,that there is no rise in juvenile crime or expelling,s from school
Now why on earth would I say that.Originally Posted by piwanoi
I really wish you'd stop trying to put words in my mouth. It's a waste of your time and mine.Originally Posted by piwanoi
I've already stated what I believe, inter alia: that corporal punishment in schools is not a necessary component of learning 'respect and discipline' for children.
^ It's like you're arguing with a fish, only less fun.
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