Thread: Rayong: Female German tourist alleges Xmas night rape

Originally Posted by BobR

We have many feminists on Teakdoor.

Not even remotely close to the number of misogynists though.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Hard to know, innit it? Maybe he did rape her while she was unconscious. (She's dumb to put herself in that position, but that doesnt mean she deserves it, either).

Originally Posted by khmen

In this case it's not unreasonable to be speculative - she doesn't even remember what happened herself.

It is very possible that he put some drug in her drink to knock her out

her statement sounds as if that was quite likely

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Hard to know, innit it?

Maybe he did rape her while she was unconscious. (She's dumb to put herself in that position, but that doesnt mean she deserves it, either).

Maybe it was consensual, how do they figure that out ?>

Simple.If it wasn't consensual, there will be vaginal tearing.

Are you sure it's that simple or cut and dried?

Rough sex can be consenual and thus have tearing present or if she had passed out and he was careful there may not be any tearing, so I'm not certain the absence or presence of vaginal tearing would suggest either rape or consent.

Originally Posted by ChrisM

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by ChrisM

Seduction doesn't start with the woman saying "yes, shag my brains out". It usually starts with a "no" or non-verbal resistance. Most women don't want to appear 'easy'. Judging how sincere the "no" is is often a tough job for men. If men didn't attempt to seduce women, there would be very little reproduction in this world.

Holy Mother of God....

You are fukced in the head. Perhaps most of your seduction techniques start with a No. But you might be surprised to learn that in the real world, not all women start by saying No to men.

Given your starting point, no wonder you don't believe in rape.

I think I met you at university. You were the guy who was every female's friend. The caring guy they came to when they had problems. You are sensitive and a good listener. And in 4 years not one of them shagged you. However, they all saw you as future husband material - a boring bland twat who provides financial security and spends his life on forums while they dream about sex with somebody with a little bit of life in them.

I was the kunt they complained about. The misogynist who didn't give a shit about them or their feelings. I shagged most of them. Although they became emotionally attached to me, they knew I wasn't long-term relationship material. That suited me. That still suits me.

Sounds like you have not grown past a 'teenage boy fantasies fueled with internet porn movies' concept of what sex and women are all about.

Again, let me state, not all women start by refusing advances of sex and need to be cajoled, tricked and/or beaten and forced into sex.

You're seriously deluded if you think they do.

Usual comments from the usual suspects from the lower end or members of the former subject nations.

Woman was raped.

The chickenhead is a serial rapist but I surmise his Thai victims in the past haven't complained, presumably because they expected the same response elicited from the cretins on this thread.

As if any young white woman is going to fuck a creature like that willingly.

Originally Posted by ChrisM

Seduction doesn't start with the woman saying "yes, shag my brains out". It usually starts with a "no" or non-verbal resistance. Most women don't want to appear 'easy'. Judging how sincere the "no" is is often a tough job for men. If men didn't attempt to seduce women, there would be very little reproduction in this world. However, from my experience, getting her pissed usually gets her moist and hungry. I'm not sure why I'm writing this because surely you must know all this.

An American chick explained this to me, when we were living in Tokyo, that this is the route to take as it is a get out clause in the morning, if the girl suffers from buyer's remorse. She can escape with her reputation in tack by explaining that she was drunk at the time and that she wouldn't normally bed the guy she went with.

Japanese girls use the 'missed the last train need to stay somewhere cheap for the night' - cheapest being a love hotel!

Perhaps the Kraut had to demonstrate to the rest of the tour group that 'she wasn't that kind of girl'n to keep her face!

Fuck knows what fantasy land you live in but most girls that fuck ill advisedly simply state to their friends that though she stayed the night " nothing happened " because I'm on the rag, he was drunk, we were both drunk, he was sick or I was sick or even, I didn't fancy him.

Many of the typical cretins here on the board in babbling their incoherence on the subject of rape are simply indulging in the wank fantasy they constructed whilst jerking off in the toilet when their balls had dropped. You know the one " I was walking along the beach/road/lane/ and this bint strolls up and tells me she 's gotta have it and lies down thighs akimbo rippling her dripping pudenda ".

The sad thing is, the same fuckwits still believe it's a reality.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by ChrisM

Seduction doesn't start with the woman saying "yes, shag my brains out". It usually starts with a "no" or non-verbal resistance. Most women don't want to appear 'easy'. Judging how sincere the "no" is is often a tough job for men. If men didn't attempt to seduce women, there would be very little reproduction in this world.

Holy Mother of God....

You are fukced in the head. Perhaps most of your seduction techniques start with a No. But you might be surprised to learn that in the real world, not all women start by saying No to men.

Given your starting point, no wonder you don't believe in rape.

Believe in rape ?

You gotta be fucking kidding...

Believe in rape..

Originally Posted by thegent

Fuck knows what fantasy land you live in but most girls that fuck ill advisedly simply state to their friends that though she stayed the night " nothing happened " because I'm on the rag, he was drunk, we were both drunk, he was sick or I was sick or even, I didn't fancy him.

Wel... I've been living in Thailand for the last 15 years and 5 years in Tokyo before that. You'll hear no denials from me that either of these places are both fantasy lands and adult playgrounds!

As to your thoughts on the workings of the female mind - way to much of a fantasy land for me to pin down!

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Hard to know, innit it? Maybe he did rape her while she was unconscious. (She's dumb to put herself in that position, but that doesnt mean she deserves it, either).

Originally Posted by khmen

In this case it's not unreasonable to be speculative - she doesn't even remember what happened herself.

It is very possible that he put some drug in her drink to knock her out

her statement sounds as if that was quite likely

Couldn't have been the moonshine that she drank on her own will could it....

As if some fucking Thai cowboy like this has access to the latest and greatest date rape drug

Originally Posted by socal

Couldn't have been the moonshine that she drank on her own will could it....

What difference does it make? It's not a crime for a woman to get drunk. On the other hand, it is a crime for a man to put his cock in her without her consent. I know you're a thick cvnt Socal but surely even you can distinguish between those two. Anyway since you said

Originally Posted by socal

When some news story comes up of a girl who is found with visable physical damage and in a state of shock then I will be the first one to call it rape

and the news reports that she was badly bruised, you can now admit that this was rape.

Originally Posted by thegent

Usual comments from the usual suspects from the lower end or members of the former subject nations.

Woman was raped.

The chickenhead is a serial rapist but I surmise his Thai victims in the past haven't complained, presumably because they expected the same response elicited from the cretins on this thread.

As if any young white woman is going to fuck a creature like that willingly.

The woman was not raped. Read her testimony.

But you are just another blue balled woman's friend that ChrisM was describing. You obviously also don't know this generation of young white women. It is trendy for them to fuck around with guys like this. I seen it with my own eyes in Jamaica.. Young white women hanging around with these porch monkeys.

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

Originally Posted by socal

Couldn't have been the moonshine that she drank on her own will could it....

What difference does it make? It's not a crime for a woman to get drunk. On the other hand, it is a crime for a man to put his cock in her without her consent. I know you're a thick cvnt Socal but surely even you can distinguish between those two. Anyway since you said

Originally Posted by socal

When some news story comes up of a girl who is found with visable physical damage and in a state of shock then I will be the first one to call it rape

and the news reports that she was badly bruised, you can now admit that this was rape.

SHE SAID YES WHEN SHE WAS DRUNK. SO THIS IS NOT RAPE.

Being drunk never absolves you of any responsibility.

Sure its legal for her to get drunk with him. It's also legal for him to fuck her if she consented to it when she was drunk. Is there a law that says you cannot accept drunken consent ?

Originally Posted by Looper

Rape is forcing a girl to have sex against her will.

It is not a girl getting drunk, not remembering anything, being told she had sex and then getting annoyed about it.

It is a gross insult to real victims of traumatic rape like the Indian girl who is in hospital in Singapore for this drunk to try and blur the lines between hangover regret and rape.

If the complainant cannot even recall what happened and is relying on the account of the accused which was offered to her by him without duress how can they even bring a charge? I honestly cannot understand the legal process by which that would be possible.

You, and a great many other people (socal, pay attention) need to get a grip on what is a simple fact of life nowadays - a drunk woman, by definition - CANNOT consent to sex.

If a woman you do not know, or are not in a relationship with is so drunk that you think she will not remember anything the next day - don't fuck her. It is quite simple - if you do, it will be a matter of sheer luck that one day you are not hauled up on the same charge.

The notion that a woman needs to show bruises or external physical trauma to have been raped is simple bullshit.

Bluntly, consent needs to be explicit, it is never implicit.

Originally Posted by socal

Sure its legal for her to get drunk with him. It's also legal for him to fuck her if she consented to it when she was drunk. Is there a law that says you cannot accept drunken consent ?

Simply, YES.

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by ChrisM

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

Originally Posted by ChrisM

Seduction doesn't start with the woman saying "yes, shag my brains out". It usually starts with a "no" or non-verbal resistance. Most women don't want to appear 'easy'. Judging how sincere the "no" is is often a tough job for men. If men didn't attempt to seduce women, there would be very little reproduction in this world.

Holy Mother of God....

You are fukced in the head. Perhaps most of your seduction techniques start with a No. But you might be surprised to learn that in the real world, not all women start by saying No to men.

Given your starting point, no wonder you don't believe in rape.

I think I met you at university. You were the guy who was every female's friend. The caring guy they came to when they had problems. You are sensitive and a good listener. And in 4 years not one of them shagged you. However, they all saw you as future husband material - a boring bland twat who provides financial security and spends his life on forums while they dream about sex with somebody with a little bit of life in them.

I was the kunt they complained about. The misogynist who didn't give a shit about them or their feelings. I shagged most of them. Although they became emotionally attached to me, they knew I wasn't long-term relationship material. That suited me. That still suits me.

Sounds like you have not grown past a 'teenage boy fantasies fueled with internet porn movies' concept of what sex and women are all about.

Again, let me state, not all women start by refusing advances of sex and need to be cajoled, tricked and/or beaten and forced into sex.

You're seriously deluded if you think they do.

I used "usually" and "most" to qualify that it doesn't apply to all women. Then, you lecture me by saying "not all women". I agree with you but you obviously didn't read or understand what I wrote. You read what you want to read because that fits your agenda. You're a passive/aggressive fascist and more than likely gay.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

It is very possible that he put some drug in her drink to knock her out

her statement sounds as if that was quite likely

If she's the size of most Western women, it would need to be elephant tranquilizer.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Originally Posted by socal

Sure its legal for her to get drunk with him. It's also legal for him to fuck her if she consented to it when she was drunk. Is there a law that says you cannot accept drunken consent ?

Simply, YES.

In Thailand?

Was she a fat lass with a hairy gash? If so, it wasn't rape.

If she a stunner with a trimmed or shave twat, then rape for sure.


Where is her picture in this?

I mis-read the OP. I thought it said she was 42. The consensual drunk sex followed by regret scenario seemed quite plausible.

Given that she is actually only 22 I think the plausibility of the Thai guys story depends on how much of a munter she is.

i.e. if she is an overweight unattractive girl who has been dying for someone to shag her for years then it is still plausible.

If she is an attractive young thing then I would be getting some tests done to see if she was mickey finned.

Originally Posted by ChrisM

You're a passive/aggressive fascist and more than likely gay.

Yawn, the classic I do not have an argument, so I'll throw names out there instead.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Originally Posted by Looper

Rape is forcing a girl to have sex against her will.

It is not a girl getting drunk, not remembering anything, being told she had sex and then getting annoyed about it.

It is a gross insult to real victims of traumatic rape like the Indian girl who is in hospital in Singapore for this drunk to try and blur the lines between hangover regret and rape.

If the complainant cannot even recall what happened and is relying on the account of the accused which was offered to her by him without duress how can they even bring a charge? I honestly cannot understand the legal process by which that would be possible.

You, and a great many other people (socal, pay attention) need to get a grip on what is a simple fact of life nowadays - a drunk woman, by definition - CANNOT consent to sex.

If a woman you do not know, or are not in a relationship with is so drunk that you think she will not remember anything the next day - don't fuck her. It is quite simple - if you do, it will be a matter of sheer luck that one day you are not hauled up on the same charge.

The notion that a woman needs to show bruises or external physical trauma to have been raped is simple bullshit.

Bluntly, consent needs to be explicit, it is never implicit.

That's just a bunch of malarky

Why are bars even legal then ? When they are just rape rooms in your mind ?

You know... Bars where men and women get together and drink alcohol ..

Allot of women are drunk after 2 drinks. So do guys have to take a breathelyser to the bar and ask the girls consent only at a certain blood/alcohol level ?

Originally Posted by ChrisM

Originally Posted by Sir Wilson

If she said no and he still did it then it is rape.

pretty simple equation really.

You must have led a very innocent life. Seduction doesn't start with the woman saying "yes, shag my brains out". It usually starts with a "no" or non-verbal resistance. Most women don't want to appear 'easy'. Judging how sincere the "no" is is often a tough job for men. If men didn't attempt to seduce women, there would be very little reproduction in this world. However, from my experience, getting her pissed usually gets her moist and hungry. I'm not sure why I'm writing this because surely you must know all this.

You also know though when a no, is a no. I think that is the point, but after a litre of khao lao the message might not be understood.

Originally Posted by Looper

I mis-read the OP. I thought it said she was 42. The consensual drunk sex followed by regret scenario seemed quite plausible.

Given that she is actually only 22 I think the plausibility of the Thai guys story depends on how much of a munter she is.

i.e. if she is an overweight unattractive girl who has been dying for someone to shag her for years then it is still plausible.

If she is an attractive young thing then I would be getting some tests done to see if she was mickey finned.

I seen it in Jamaica Looper. This generation of women think its Kool to do this fucked up shit. It makes them feel like they are staring in a Quinton Teretino movie. Her testimony just lays it all out. He didn't drag her in there. He didn't force feed her moonshine. He didn't.... Fill on the blank