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    [quote=Rocksteady;2254341]
    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    I never have and I've asked for it on occasion.
    I'm not the least surprised to read this. Your comments and posts highlight your spectacular lack of people skills!
    Do you understand what I meant ? I've deserved an attack like this before and I've never been attacked. And when I never deserved it, I've never had a hint of an attack. Have you ?

    Thais hunt in packs and never enter into one on one unless backed up by the pack (they don't have the minerals)!

    However you try to spin this attack, there is no honour in this for the Thai rats who attacked an unarmed couple with knives and machetes
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    I never said there was any honor in this.

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    Things happen for reasons
    gatherings of teenage males, anywhere, fuelled with alcohol and drugs, carrying weapons and with teenage girls present dont need much of a reason to start trouble.

    anybody looking weaker will be fair game for their amusement.

    along comes a tourist and his girlfriend, they dont look particularly threatening, he doesnt look tough, there are only two of them to their seven or eight.

    they chase her, they WILL have their fun whatever it is, he did what anybody will do, he went to her assistance, and that gave them the reason to deliver their violent response. had he not gone to her assistance they would have upped the ante with her until he did respond. he had no chance.

    they werent after money, they were after showing off and having a fight with a weaker opponent.

    a la clockwork orange.

    could have been you socal, what would you have done? you are walking with a girlfriend and a bunch of youths start hassling you and wont take "leave me alone i dont want any trouble" for an answer. they are intent on a confrontation. would you run away and leave your girl there, or try to distract them and take a beating or worse.

    how would you, the expert on everything, the culturally sensitive world traveller, (who once posted a photo of yourself with your hand on the head of a thai tuk tuk driver, you arse.), the self reliant ironman, defuse a situation like that.?????????????

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    I have been in Thailand a long, long time and seen a whole lot of crap between farangs and Thais - mostly Thai instigated min you. From the balloon carrying BTS attack to others and this one, I side with the farang every time.

    I don't want to hear "the farang insulted a Thai and got what he deserved", that does nto fly with me. No one deserves a physical assault over hurt feelings, even if the baby minded Thais think so. Their skin is about as thick as a tomatoe skin popping open and spilling out with their silly loss of face over the littlest of things.

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    wheres gobshite slinked off to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    Do you understand what I meant ? I've deserved an attack like this before and I've never been attacked. And when I never deserved it, I've never had a hint of an attack. Have you ?
    Yes I understand what you mean and was referring to the second clause of the sentence about 'deserving' an attack!

    Yes, I have been attacked- twice. Right outside my house in Nonthaburi. The first was again mob handed in which I was attacked by 4 adults who consisted of both the parents and the extended family of a low rent mafia foot soldier family that moved in and began terrorizing the neighbours!

    On my way to the beer shop I passed the corner of their house on which a couple of the yob sons were hanging out. I dropped a flip flop that had been lobbed over our garden fence the night before (the kids had had their mates around and had spent the evening on the piss and gunning their motorbikes up and down the soi). When I arrived back home some 15 mins later and as I got out of my car, the father distracted me with a 'you,you,you' to which I responded by looking towards him. As I did this, his brother and his mate jumped out of the dark where they had been lying in wait, punched me a couple of times in the face (blindsided and whacked me a couple of times with all their mite with a big stick as I was on the ground! Apparently, it turned out, the kids had lied to their parents by saying that I had thrown the flip flop at them as I drove past and it hit the youngest boy in the face (where in fact, I had wound down the window and dropped it on the ground at the side of the road - I figured that one of them had missed a shoe and these people didn't have much cash to splash - I helped them out by returning it instead of chucking it in the dustbin! All good deads...

    Only a week before I and my wife were attacked, two of the family's teenaged yobs attacked their female teacher riding home from school - she had to cycle past their house. They knocked her and her teenaged son to the ground and put the boot in on the son but had enough sense that to do their teacher in the middle of the road at 5pm in front of witnesses wasn't wise!

    The second time I was attacked was when we came home one evening at around 11pm to find the same house had set up a stage,had a full disco/coyte thing going and a crowd of over 200 guests in our small soi! We couldn't get into our house as the had arranged tables infront of our drive which has the local govenor as a vip!

    This was just after the coup when gatherings of no more than 4 or 5 people were allowed! Whilst the local kid in uniform who was in charge of parking cars and I were working out how to move the parked cars and tables infront of our house, I made the mistake of turning my back on the crowd as we discussed where to park the cars. At which a Thai 'lion' (and the first guy who blind sided me the first time) ran out of the crowd and whacked me on the head from behind. When I spun round he quickly dodged 2 or 3 rows back into the crowd grinning his arse off!

    Man, these monkeys don't need an excuse - they just need the opportunity in overwhelming numbers and the chance to getaway with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    Do you understand what I meant ? I've deserved an attack like this before and I've never been attacked. And when I never deserved it, I've never had a hint of an attack. Have you ?
    If you are for real it is only a matter of time before we read about your demise, Surrey Krabbi or Orkney. God it amazes me that someone so lacking in street smarts survives. Well of course there is always the option that you are talking complete bollocks because you know nothing and a form um makes you feel like you have cred.

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    ^ He strikes me as one keen to cause controversy, regardless of the situation

    On another topic, I've just seen on ABC (Australian news) that Gary Glitter has just been arrested over the child molestation charges in connection with the Saville inquiry!

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    ^ how many times are you going to post that?

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    [quote=taxexile;2254359][quote]


    could have been you socal, what would you have done? you are walking with a girlfriend and a bunch of youths start hassling you and wont take "leave me alone i dont want any trouble" for an answer. they are intent on a confrontation. would you run away and leave your girl there, or try to distract them and take a beating or worse.
    No it couldn't have been me. Of the 28 years I have been on this earth, I've never seen an unprovoked attack on anyone. The Brits were probably drunk too.

    how would you, the expert on everything, the culturally sensitive world traveller, (who once posted a photo of yourself with your hand on the head of a thai tuk tuk driver, you arse.), the self reliant ironman, defuse a situation like that.?????????????
    that wasnt me.

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    Dang Socal, did you miss the TD how to use the quote function memo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    No it couldn't have been me. Of the 28 years I have been on this earth, I've never seen an unprovoked attack on anyone. The Brits were probably drunk too.
    How can anyone be on the earth for 28 years and be able accumulate so little information, knowledge, or understanding ......about anything! Nope just not possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown
    how many times are you going to post that?
    This was the first as it was airing on tv at the same time I was typing. As I've updated the Jimmy Saville thread with the same info, it's a case of job done! Unless, of course, you would like me to post it again, somewhere else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    I've been all over the world and I've never had a case where someone wanted to attack me for no apparent reason.
    Give it time.

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    when i heard the big gas bottle hitting the ground right behind me, i thought it was time to leave... though, i cant say, it was an "attack" or the egys did it "without apparent reason"...

    its all a point of view...

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    Socal is somewhat typical of the average North American fuckwit who considers the world and its mysteries through the doubtful prism of his own diminished intellect and ignorance.

    Such stupidity is impenetrable to reason and so it is probable he, like many of his ilk, will simply get older and more decrepit without ever understanding just how fucking moronic he truly is.

    Unless of course he has that Damascene moment when he strolls along those pristine shores of Pattaya Bay minding his own business one evening and, unbidden, is buggered senseless by a trio of rampant pre-op trannies.

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    ^He would argue that he "asked for it"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegent View Post
    Socal is somewhat typical of the average North American fuckwit who considers the world and its mysteries through the doubtful prism of his own diminished intellect and ignorance.

    Such stupidity is impenetrable to reason and so it is probable he, like many of his ilk, will simply get older and more decrepit without ever understanding just how fucking moronic he truly is.

    Unless of course he has that Damascene moment when he strolls along those pristine shores of Pattaya Bay minding his own business one evening and, unbidden, is buggered senseless by a trio of rampant pre-op trannies.
    I havnt quite figured out how you see the world.

    Socialist brainwashed euro trash liberal arts major comes to mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    no comments about the cowardice of the thai male necessary.
    I do !



    Police offer €15,000 for deadly attack tips








    Police hunting the gang who beat a young man to death in Berlin at the weekend are offering a reward of €15,000 for information leading to arrests. Details also emerged suggesting he was killed while trying to help a friend under attack.

    “They stamped out the life of my son like a discarded cigarette,” said Lothar-Günther K., the father of 20-year-old Jonny, who was killed in the early hours of Sunday by a gang who kicked and beat him so badly he died soon afterwards.

    “He was a good boy. I cannot understand why this was done to him,” the father told the BZ newspaper.

    Jutta Porzucek, head of the Berlin murder squad investigating the case, said Jonny had been with three friends on the night in question, drinking in several bars in the Alexanderplatz area of the city.

    “One had been carrying the drunken friend piggy back until he was too heavy,” said Porzucek. Then, as another went to try to find a taxi, he put the drunken companion on a chair.

    But one of the attackers kicked the chair away, leaving the piggy-back pair to fall to the ground and prompting Jonny to complain, asking “What are you doing – can’t you see he’s not doing so well?” the BZ reported on Wednesday.

    This seemingly sparked the deadly attack, with Jonny punched to the floor and then repeatedly kicked. He suffered such severe brain injuries that he died in hospital on Monday. His friend who had been carrying the third young man was attacked when he tried to intervene, and suffered a fractured cheekbone.

    Now detectives are hoping that guests at a party being held by a Turkish artist in the nearby bar Cancun, could offer help in identifying the up to seven young men who attacked Jonny.

    “Some of the 500 to 700 participants could have seen something as they were outside smoking,” said Porzucek.

    Her team is currently examining footage from security cameras in the area for any sign of the attackers.

    The police said Jonny’s friends had described the group as possibly of Arabic origin – but that their descriptions were somewhat hazy, and other witnesses were desperately needed.

    In order to aid anyone who may have witnessed the attack, the police described Jonny’s group as two Asians and one black man, Die Welt newspaper reported. The paper said there was no suggestion that the attackers had been at the Cancun bar.

    The Local/hc

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    the guy on the pic is the dead victim...

    the murderers seem to have a turkish background, at least some of them...

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    Phuket NEWS: Krabi Police not to investigate British

    Krabi Police not to investigate British ‘sex attack’ claims – for now


    Phuket Gazette – Monday, October 29, 2012 6:54:00 PM


    Mr Cole will travel to Krabi tomorrow to attend the preliminary hearing against the suspects in court. Photo: Atchaa Khamlo


    PHUKET: The police officer investigating the vicious gang attack in Krabi last Monday night has confirmed to the Phuket Gazette that – at this stage – he is not investigating any allegations of an attempted rape .

    The news follows British tourist Jake Daniel Cole being reported as saying that “he feared the gang – mostly young men with perhaps two of them female – was intent on raping Ms Clifton.”

    Another report stated that Mr Cole “thought that they were going to kill him and rape his girlfriend, because she was being held back by two Thai men around 20 meters away.”

    “He remembers himself yelling ‘get off her’, to the Thai men,” said the report.

    However, Lt Col Niwat Pimket of the Ao Nang Police told the Gazette today that Mr Cole made no such complaint in his report to the police.

    Neither did his female companion.

    “Mr Cole gave a statement that concurred with that given by the suspects. He also said that he did not remember the suspects' faces and that he could not identify the men because it was dark. He initially reported that only about two to three men attacked him,” Col Niwat said.

    “The attack did not start over any threats of sexual abuse at all; he [Mr Cole] did not mention anything like that during our initial investigation,” he added.

    Col Niwat was unaware that Mr Cole had made the allegations through the media, with reports being echoed in high-readership publications including the Daily Mail Online.

    “According to our investigation, Mr Cole and his girlfriend were walking along when one of the young men threw a rock at them. Mr Cole apparently turned to ask why they were throwing rocks, then the young men surrounded them.

    “They had a big argument, then the men attacked him,” Col Niwat said.

    The Gazette was informed late this afternoon that Mr Cole will travel to Krabi tomorrow morning to attend the preliminary hearing against the suspects in court.

    It has yet to be confirmed whether or not the complaint against his attackers will be amended.
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    Phuket: Krabi teen gang ?well known to police?

    Phuket: Krabi teen gang “well known to police”

    PHUKET: The British man that was assaulted by a group of teenagers in Ao Nang headed back to Krabi yesterday (October 30) to give his statement to the courts.

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    Wednesday 31 October 2012, 08:24AM

    Krabi Police Chief Niwat Timket said both Chainarong Chansanga, 17, and Anusor Kunluk, 18, have been arrested and charged with the attack on tourist Jack Cole, 21.

    They admitted assaulting Mr Cole on October 22 and will stand trial for assault with a deadly weapon causing bodily harm.

    Mr Cole sustained seven stab wounds to his shoulder and arm, one of which was eight inches deep and tore through muscle and tendon, after being attacked by a group of Thai teenagers. He also needed 30 stitches from being hit in the head with a machete, and was admitted to Bangkok Hospital Phuket last week. (See earlier story here).

    Mr Niwat said there was not enough evidence to prove the teen gang were looking to kill Mr Cole, or rape his girlfriend, so the charges would remain as is. There was also not enough evidence to charge others in the group.

    Police needed to get permission from the juvenile court in order for Chainarong to stand trial, the paperwork for which could take up to one month to be completed.

    Mr Niwat said the particularly group of teenagers were “well known” to police in the Ao Nang area, as they usually hung out at the beach, and “sometimes would get into verbal arguments” with shopkeepers and locals in the area. He was unable to say whether this group had assaulted anyone else.

    However he said “violent attacks on tourists in Ao Nang are rare”.

    “Many Thai youths these days try to sort out disputes by using their fist, instead of common sense.”

    He warned tourists to “try to avoid any sort of confrontation with these people as it can lead to disastrous results”.

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    He warned tourists to “try to avoid any sort of confrontation with these people as it can lead to disastrous results”.
    1. maybe the consulates and embassies can now legitimately start posting about the dangers awaiting the unwary about going for a quiet stroll at night in holiday resorts in thailand.

    2. a more defeatist statement from a policeman would be hard to find. the thai police force must be, per head of population, one of the worlds largest, yet they cant find the manpower to patrol known trouble areas, or keep known trouble makers off the streets. they are no strangers when it comes to using unorthodox methods when it suits their purposes, how come they cant be a bit creative and serve the community a bit better.

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    One of the problems with folk who suffer from an impaired cognitve ability is that they are incapable of proactive problem solving.

    Eventually, after the situation deteriorates to a degree where it becomes a threat to revenue someone in Bangkok will tell them what to do and then we may see some action.

    Am I right in thinking there are no words for personal initiative in Thai?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    Phuket NEWS: Krabi Police not to investigate British

    Krabi Police not to investigate British ‘sex attack’ claims – for now


    Phuket Gazette – Monday, October 29, 2012 6:54:00 PM


    Mr Cole will travel to Krabi tomorrow to attend the preliminary hearing against the suspects in court. Photo: Atchaa Khamlo


    PHUKET: The police officer investigating the vicious gang attack in Krabi last Monday night has confirmed to the Phuket Gazette that – at this stage – he is not investigating any allegations of an attempted rape .

    The news follows British tourist Jake Daniel Cole being reported as saying that “he feared the gang – mostly young men with perhaps two of them female – was intent on raping Ms Clifton.”
    Another report stated that Mr Cole “thought that they were going to kill him and rape his girlfriend, because she was being held back by two Thai men around 20 meters away.”

    “He remembers himself yelling ‘get off her’, to the Thai men,” said the report.

    However, Lt Col Niwat Pimket of the Ao Nang Police told the Gazette today that Mr Cole made no such complaint in his report to the police.

    Neither did his female companion.

    “Mr Cole gave a statement that concurred with that given by the suspects. He also said that he did not remember the suspects' faces and that he could not identify the men because it was dark. He initially reported that only about two to three men attacked him,” Col Niwat said.

    “The attack did not start over any threats of sexual abuse at all; he [Mr Cole] did not mention anything like that during our initial investigation,” he added.

    Col Niwat was unaware that Mr Cole had made the allegations through the media, with reports being echoed in high-readership publications including the Daily Mail Online.

    “According to our investigation, Mr Cole and his girlfriend were walking along when one of the young men threw a rock at them. Mr Cole apparently turned to ask why they were throwing rocks, then the young men surrounded them.

    “They had a big argument, then the men attacked him,” Col Niwat said.

    The Gazette was informed late this afternoon that Mr Cole will travel to Krabi tomorrow morning to attend the preliminary hearing against the suspects in court.

    It has yet to be confirmed whether or not the complaint against his attackers will be amended.
    So the rape claim was false, just like I said it was.

    Just another false rape claim by a low life white whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    He warned tourists to “try to avoid any sort of confrontation with these people as it can lead to disastrous results”.
    1. maybe the consulates and embassies can now legitimately start posting about the dangers awaiting the unwary about going for a quiet stroll at night in holiday resorts in thailand.

    2. a more defeatist statement from a policeman would be hard to find. the thai police force must be, per head of population, one of the worlds largest, yet they cant find the manpower to patrol known trouble areas, or keep known trouble makers off the streets. they are no strangers when it comes to using unorthodox methods when it suits their purposes, how come they cant be a bit creative and serve the community a bit better.
    This shit happens everywhere so I guess the embassies can CC it to every country on earth

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