Thaksin gets US visa

**Albert Shagnastier** · 08-07-2012, 08:20 PM

**Panty Hamster** · 08-07-2012, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by RamboII

I would second Bob R's comment. As someone that spent over $8,000 just to obtain a permanent residency visa for my thai wife and her 3 kids (and the process taking around 10 months), I really don't like to see anyone (particularly a fugitive from justice) circumvent the immigration process through political/financial advantages.

You do realize there are more than one type of visa, don't you?
A permanent residency visa and a tourist visa are hardly comparable.
Do you also realize Thaksin was in the US when his government was illegally overthrown by a military coup in 2006? He should have stayed there.

**RamboII** · 08-07-2012, 09:19 PM

By definition, a visa is a piece of paper, allowing someone to visit a country for a pre determined length of time. Why would you give any type of visa to a well known fugitive from justice (not a political prisoner or someone seeking political asylum)?

**BobR** · 08-07-2012, 09:26 PM

^ Not really in this case unless they plan to arrest him and turn him over to Thailand. Granting a visa to a fugitive felon from any country, then allowing him to leave is a spit in the face to that country's judiciary.

Imagine the upset if Thailand had told Washington they could not have Viktor Bout, and this is worse since Bout was not convicted until after he left Thailand.

No way to treat an ally, especially when, like so much other crap, it's for the benefit of 1 man.

**Itchy** · 08-07-2012, 09:38 PM

The square faced cnut either has or has not got a visa - Not something that is difficult to prove or disprove.

If he has, then surely the US does have some questions to answer regarding the granting of a visa to a fugitive.

If he does not, its all too much for the vote selling Red Shirts to understand... they are being fucked over left right and centre, they don't understand that either....

**nostromo** · 08-07-2012, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Itchy

The square faced cnut either has or has not got a visa - Not something that is difficult to prove or disprove.

If he has, then surely the US does have some questions to answer regarding the granting of a visa to a fugitive.

If he does not, its all too much for the vote selling Red Shirts to understand... they are being fucked over left right and centre, they don't understand that either....

Why I think when I see your nick and see your avatar I feel you are right nasty. Like a bloody mosquito with dengue
The instincts?

**Zampan0** · 08-07-2012, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by BobR

As an American, I certainly hope my country did not grant him a visa, that would make a complete mockery out of our immigration laws as well as Thailand's legal system.

You said before that you were a cop then a lawyer in the U.S.. Nevermind. I would appreciate you telling us what it is that you are smoking.

**Albert Shagnastier** · 08-07-2012, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Zampan0

Originally Posted by BobR

As an American, I certainly hope my country did not grant him a visa, that would make a complete mockery out of our immigration laws as well as Thailand's legal system.

You said before that you were a cop then a lawyer in the U.S.. Nevermind. I would appreciate you telling us what it is that you are smoking.

He said he was a cop then a lawyer..

what do you think he's smoking homie?

finest Krippy.

**Yasojack** · 08-07-2012, 10:28 PM

Another kick in the dems teeth, surely they must realise there the laughing stock by now.

**larvidchr** · 08-07-2012, 11:56 PM

"If the claim is true, it means the US does not respect Thailand's justice system but insults the country's law and integrity,'' he said."

The Kasit nutter is exatly right they don't

and quite rightly so, how on earth could he believe that any western Country's would honor anything cooked up under a crooked corrupt Millitary dictatorship or their smelly lapdogs following in their footsteps after a judicial coup.

It is certainly progress if the US no longer supports or adhere to illegal two bit coup dictatorships and their illegal trumped up political charges with no or very dubious merit.

Well done US

.

"If the US does not cooperate with us [and extradite Thaksin], we must condemn and all Thais must sever ties with the US,'' he said."

Bring it on Kasit, US will tremble in it's foundations for sure

I wonder if all the Thai immigrant yellowshirt supporters in the US are ready to pack their suitcases and return home, or if they wish this blabbering idiot had just kept his big gob shut

**Panty Hamster** · 09-07-2012, 12:40 AM

^ Indeed. And let's not forget Thaksin was a prominent investor/FC owner in Manchester, UK, for a few years following his (demise?) departure. Hardly a low-key affair.

Thailand's immigration laws are 100x better than America's.

**larvidchr** · 09-07-2012, 01:10 AM

Oh and just to set the record straight about Victor Bout, Thailand did initially reject to extradite him and that under the yellowshirt smelly lapdog Government and their bought Judiciary, here is the Jugde -

"This is a political case. The Farc is fighting for a political cause and is not a criminal gang. Thailand does not recognise the Farc as a terrorist group," a judge said to explain last year's (2009) rejection of the US extradition request."

Talking about getting that one smack back in your face eh. Kasit

When they finally did extradite Bout in 2010, it was due to some very clever fast maneuvering by the US and extraordinary heavy US pressure on the lapdog who until then had been enthusiastically sucking Russian cock.

Besides those troubles that the US is unlikely to forgive the Dem lapdogs, nutter Kasit in his delusional madness and some of you guys forget that the latest good Thai - US/Western democracy's relations, was forged during the Thaksin era, and certainly not while the coup Generals was holding the stolen reins, in fact the US stopped quite a bit of the corroboration with Thailand in that period pressing for Thailand's return to Democracy, and it was not much better when the smelly lapdogs was running the Judicial coup show and having live fire zones in Bangkoks streets.

This point is for "lawyers and such" to know - I hope

, that any extradition requests to a Western democracy has to have legal merit and certain judicial and human rights safeguards, extradition requests from two bit dictatorships is correct and routinely refused according to international law. And dubious politically motivated sentences given in absentia to citizens of such dictatorships is usually downright ignored by Democracy's, or alternatively used as valid reason for giving protective visas and asylum.

**Cthulhu** · 09-07-2012, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by nostromo

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Willie Nelson is an American, Daffy Duck (Cthulo) is a Septic.

You are putting too much confidence on Cthulo. Just seen him in action. He is now native in two euro languages.

... as you are, in none, so far.

I see you continue to insist to plant your foot firmly in your mouth, by maintaining a 100% record of being inaccurate... Lovely.

Please, go on!

**Cthulhu** · 09-07-2012, 03:30 AM

It's a visa - who cares. As long as Thaksin doesn't use his (invalidated) Diplomatic Passport, he has just as much right to receive a visa, as any tourist.

Once *IN* the US, Thailand could make an extradition request, but I don't really see that happen, considering his sister is in charge.

**RamboII** · 09-07-2012, 04:17 AM

The U.S. is very restrictive to Thais coming to the U.S. on a tourist visa, in case they want to come here to work. My mother in law has no chance of getting a tourist visa to the U.S., as she has no assets in Thailand. Takky has assets but also has that felony hanging over him. If it turns out that he did receive a visa, I will send letters of protest to my Congressman and to the State Department.

**Yasojack** · 09-07-2012, 04:29 AM

i thought rambo was a renegade lol

**BobR** · 09-07-2012, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by Zampan0

Originally Posted by BobR

As an American, I certainly hope my country did not grant him a visa, that would make a complete mockery out of our immigration laws as well as Thailand's legal system.

You said before that you were a cop then a lawyer in the U.S.. Nevermind. I would appreciate you telling us what it is that you are smoking.

I can only assume this remark is because you support Thaksin, substitute anyone else who is a convicted fugitive and the statement is true all the same for obvious reasons.

**Yasojack** · 09-07-2012, 05:21 AM

hmm a convicted fugitive that can basically visit any country he likes, seems theres something wrong with international law and co-operation or is it a conspiracy against the thai elite. ?

Good old USA the land of the free.LOL

**Cthulhu** · 09-07-2012, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by RamboII

The U.S. is very restrictive to Thais coming to the U.S. on a tourist visa, in case they want to come here to work. My mother in law has no chance of getting a tourist visa to the U.S., as she has no assets in Thailand. Takky has assets but also has that felony hanging over him. If it turns out that he did receive a visa, I will send letters of protest to my Congressman and to the State Department.

That's, actually, a good idea, as I am certain that the majority of lawmakers have absolutely no idea that any of this is playing out.

In fact, I believe you would be better served by writing your letters before any of this happens.

On the other hand, Thaksin certainly has plenty of assets to show that he won't be a "burden" to the USA once here, and that he is able to support himself financially - therein lies the major difference... and that he is a male. Generally, females have a far more difficult time getting a tourist visa, than men.

Originally Posted by BobR

I can only assume this remark is because you support Thaksin, substitute anyone else who is a convicted fugitive and the statement is true all the same for obvious reasons.

I would be interested how He would feel if it were Arisman Pongruangrong or Sondhi Limthongkul that had been hiding outside the country, and receiving a USA visa?

**Cthulhu** · 09-07-2012, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by Yasojack

hmm a convicted fugitive that can basically visit any country he likes, seems theres something wrong with international law and co-operation or is it a conspiracy against the thai elite. ?

Good old USA the land of the free.LOL

No, he cannot visit *any* country he likes, as he has had his visa revoked by the UK and Germany, and was forced to travel on secondary passports from Montenegro, Cambodia, and other banana republics.

**Yasojack** · 09-07-2012, 06:47 AM

cthulhu

i have been thinking of a alternative name for you, though i not been sure until yesterday and then yesterday it came to me.

old norse
bai lan
bai mu
krean
tsuri

**Yasojack** · 09-07-2012, 06:54 AM

Sorry mucker My messiah is free to visit Germany. please do research

**Tom Sawyer** · 09-07-2012, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by BobR

^ Not really in this case unless they plan to arrest him and turn him over to Thailand. Granting a visa to a fugitive felon from any country, then allowing him to leave is a spit in the face to that country's judiciary.

Imagine the upset if Thailand had told Washington they could not have Viktor Bout, and this is worse since Bout was not convicted until after he left Thailand.

No way to treat an ally, especially when, like so much other crap, it's for the benefit of 1 man.

The US has been an open-armed refuge for many right-wing dictators. Ferdinand Marcos fled to Hawaii after his dictatorship was toppled. California, Pennsyvania and Maryland are home to many Thai military self-exiled thugs.

**Albert Shagnastier** · 09-07-2012, 08:22 AM

"There are only two types of people in this world my friend, rich and poor. We're both rich so we're on the same side"

**Zampan0** · 09-07-2012, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by BobR

Originally Posted by Zampan0

Originally Posted by BobR

As an American, I certainly hope my country did not grant him a visa, that would make a complete mockery out of our immigration laws as well as Thailand's legal system.

You said before that you were a cop then a lawyer in the U.S.. Nevermind. I would appreciate you telling us what it is that you are smoking.

I can only assume this remark is because you support Thaksin, substitute anyone else who is a convicted fugitive and the statement is true all the same for obvious reasons.

No that is not the reason for my remark. I am a yellow shirt and love the king. This Thaksin guy is a real bad guy imo. What I was trying to say to you in my remark was something to the effect of; just how the phuck with you having been involved in the U.S. legal system [sic.] why is it that you don't already know the whole thing is a mockery of anything close to being just or fair. Get it now??

Btw., The U.S. has broken the Thai-U.S. extradition treaty as well. It isn't Thailand's fault Amerika has become a criminal state.

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