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    can't think of a greater pleasure than having my young children climb over me whilst relaxing after work
    sorry got to be something wrong with you if sitting with your children cudled up to you makes you uneasy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    can't think of a greater pleasure than having my young children climb over me whilst relaxing after work sorry got to be something wrong with you if sitting with your children cudled up to you makes you uneasy!
    Keep up FFS, it's not MY children i was talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobella View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    can't think of a greater pleasure than having my young children climb over me whilst relaxing after work sorry got to be something wrong with you if sitting with your children cudled up to you makes you uneasy!
    Keep up FFS, it's not MY children i was talking about.
    I think you need to clarify why you feel uncomfortable, Dobella.

    Is it because of the possibility of false-accusation? Remember, you can be falsely accused of anything, even by people you haven't been in the same room with. That's the iniquity of a false accusation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog
    I think you need to clarify why you feel uncomfortable, Dobella.
    I am in my mid-fifties now and well remember my younger years when kids could cuddle and bounce around with adults but for some sick reason, no-one ever fiddled with me but i just feel uncomfortable around young kids unless there are other adults around.
    Maybe i am mal-adjusted but rather that than get branded a fiddler.
    I appreciate your balance response to my earlier postings on this subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
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    This is my first post on TeakDoor, to mitigate the damage done to this man's reputation.

    I'm a close personal friend of Mr. Miller, and I've known him for several years, long enough to know that he is not guilty of any of these "charges" levied against him in these so-called Thai "news" reports. PattayaOne likes to take raw police reports and broadcast them with video as if they were gospel truth... but not everyone who's lived in Thailand for a while should take these reports at face-value.

    The story goes as follows... Mr. Miller and the mother of the alleged "victim" have known one another for quite some time. The mother is currently married to a bloke from England who is out of the country for a few months. During this time, she has been quite suggestive and amorous toward Greg, him being friends with the English husband and knowing full well that she is still married, rightly refused advances.

    Hell have no fury like a woman scorned.

    The kid (not the Englishman's blood) and some friends would go to Greg's house on weekends to use the pool at his house, most of the times, with parents there. I was actually there on one occasion with the mother of the boy, friends of mine and a bunch of kids, and it was a fun afternoon, American-style BBQ stuff. OK, the guy can't cook a burger to save his life, but no one is perfect...

    So he refuses to commit adultery, she's angry, kid leaves the house, and the police show up five minutes later.

    Of course, the Thai police (being the entrepreneurs they are) take advantage of the situation, and in the process, drag this guys name though the mud, and cost him his job. Great work!

    Oh, and in response to the usual idiot-barrage of rebuttals, I offer this:

    1) "Oh, he's a teacher, of course he chose a profession to be around kids"... everyone knows that teaching and scuba are the non-suit-and-tie-big-corporations farang can easily get in Thailand.

    2) "Where there's smoke, there's fire"..... nope... it could be a smoke machine... i.e. FAKE

    3) This has nothing to do with homosexuality. If you want to hate gays, go live in Arkansas or Iran... the rest of the educated world has no room for you... and this comes from a straight man writing this post.

    This is all I have to say about this matter. Flame me if you will, I will not dignify ignorance with a response.

    Oh, and to the Thai police:
    Maybe, maybe not.

    However, the Pattaya One report was much kinder to him than the national Thai news.

    Also, you describe a motive for the mother to do this. However, the motive doesn't really match with what transpired.

    What you are saying is....the mother had her advances rejected and her response was to concoct this very serious allegation. Hmmm. Sorry that just doesn't work.

    People may get hurt or angry when rejected, sure, but then to accuse him of child molestation does seem a rather over-the-top response, wouldn't you agree....not just over-the-top, but I'd suggest she may have burned all her bridges by doing so....an odd thing to do for someone seeking a relationship with him. A women scorned indeed!

    Anyway, let's hope justice is done and the truth comes out.

    I'd suggest you read and watch the Pattaya Daily News and Pattaya People reports.
    I note I was critiscised for me first post being to ask people not to jump to conclusions.

    I posted the same thing on thaivisa.com where I have been a member for years, for anyone interested go and have a look.

    Obviously most foreigners who post here have little or no experience in dealing with the Thai police.

    Let me pose a scenario.

    Scenario 1

    An uneducated Thai woman always looking for money think ps she can extort a few quid and makes a bogus report to the police, believing a quick negotiation at the nick will net her a few quid.

    The whole idea goes pear shaped when the amount of money is not enough to satisfy the BIBs.

    Scenario 2

    A previous story posted on this forum:

    Teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asia-news/29282-more-alleged-paedophiles-arrested

    What happened? Pattaya Police under pressure to get arrest rates up nick four guys in two days for kiddy fiddling.

    Three of the cases were dismissed by the Prosecutor, one went to Court.

    Evidence turns out to be as a result of the cops having nicked four kids for selling ya ba and forcing them to give perjured evidence, or be locked up in juvenile detention.

    In the case that went to Court, the Court judgment says:

    'The witness admits he made a statement to say what the police had told him to say and gave him some money to make the statement.'

    The case was dismissed, but not before the Court lambasted the police.

    Unfortunately all four reputations were by then ruined.

    I do not defend paedophiles or child molesters, and believe they should be locked up forever, however we should as highly evolved species use the brain we have been given to restrain ourselves from immediately saying 'lock the bastard up' just because a kid (his girlfriends kid at that) was found in his house.

    Innocent until proven guilty.

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    ^ I have lots of experience working with the Thai police.

    Just so you know.

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