^^Yeah, maybe he kept it in his pocket, next to his gun and rambo knife and balaclava.
^^Yeah, maybe he kept it in his pocket, next to his gun and rambo knife and balaclava.
What normal society would that happen to be?
The one in which moves the Thai army colonel who ran down the doctor in his car because she complained about his parking technique?
The circles in which my chums take turns to import whichever Mercedes takes their fancy through the Customs fast track route perhaps?
Or maybe my civil service cadre who take turns to show who has the biggest bag of money that day after a hard day at work?
Or maybe my property developing chums who buy and rent in any number of names so that they might not pay tax?
Or perhaps my university prof chums who seem to enjoy the fruits of academia much more round about graduation time than they do at others?
Or perhaps you mean my police chums who......well, let's not dwell too much on that, shall we?
Or perhaps my doctor chums who do quite well out of the sale of medicines and the subsequent defraying of costs by claiming perhaps too much from the government or my friends in private practice who regulalry stiff the insurance companies and who are more than happy to pull the plug on any patient without " the flexible friend"?
Or perhaps my industrialist chums who quite happily off any environmentalist or inquisitive auditor threatening their rice bowl?
Or perhasps you mean the loan sharking chaps who proliferate in every tambon as they cuddle up to all their mafia and political chums?
Or perhaps I should aim higher and rub shoulders with all the hiso chaps who buy their 18 year old sons a Porsche for their birthday and indemnify them from any responsibility for the mayhem they may cause by the judicious use of gifts?
Yes Nignog, perhaps I should get out a bit more and meet the " real " Thai. That's the trouble with you chaps who swallow the Thai cultural pill of self delusion, you can't help but spout rubbish in those dreadful Lonely Planeteer cliches.
Thai society is essentially childlike. If folk don't behave according to the playground pecking order they get a drubbing. We more civilised folk have the sense to see the truth of the matter but so many farang here are simply just children themselves and have merely got older, not wiser.
You mean the Welsh ones right?Quote:
Originally Posted by thegent
^^ yes, thegent. You are the only adult in Thailand - no! wait! the whole world.
You are not only a racist, but an arrogant one as well.
You seem to be quite at home in the company you keep. My world is largely surrounded by fairly decent, relatively hardworking people. One or two crooks, but the vast majority are as straight as can be expected.
Still, as they say "birds of a feather" eh, thegent?
The Thai murder statistics and violent crime statistics together with the huge uncertainty and many unreported cases leaves Thai society very high on the list of bad places on that score.
IMHO - I fully agree with Nidhogg that Thai society and behavior is based very much on non confrontation hence the averted gaze and fake smiles as a small part of that, but I agree with the Gent that the reason for this "NORM" is not a trait of genuine peaceful demeanor in Thais, but because everyone knows unbridled violence is only a hairsbreadth beneath the surface, and that the consequences of unmanaged conflict is nearly always very serious in Thailand.
Thai on Thai violent conflicts are much more prevalent and very common unfortunately, than Thai on Farang due to cultural differences/misunderstandings even in the seedy, predominantly no brain guest, tourist places, also when adjusted for probability due to numbers, but obviously we tend to focus more on events involving a Farang.
I'll give this one a 1 equal and a green to both.
:)
Orangeman = arrogant = bigot.....hardly news is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by nidhogg
Somewhat sweeping there Blodwyn. Wouldn't catch me making such silly generalisations.:)
The forbidden fruits!Quote:
Originally Posted by thegent
God forbid.
Seems the guy made bail and is out and about although I expect he is keeping that short profile a bit lower than a Swansea jockstrap.
Any comments?
Oh well, perhaps later on when the bars shut.
Whilst pretty much all of what you say is true - or at least has some resonance, A does not equal B. Thais avoid confrontation and look for conciliation far more than westerners. Westerners are conditioned to understand conciliation is beneficial, but we don't hesitate to make our point to the extreme if required - to "stand our ground". Not the case here, where both sides go out of their way to not offend the opponent. Huge difference.
Friends of victim angry as 'attacker' is bailed by Thai authorities
Marc Meneaud
Monday 23rd July 2012
Friends of a Keighley teacher who is in a coma after being attacked in Thailand have described as “a complete disgrace” a decision to release his alleged attacker on bail.
Sean Henry Tinsley, 43, who has been charged with attempting to murder former Bradford Grammar School pupil Adam Pickles, has been released by the Thai authorities until a future trial, Mr Pickles’ friends said.
He had been remanded in custody for allegedly attacking Mr Pickles with a wheelbrace after an incident in which a car was scraped.
Mr Pickles’ friend, Neil Clappison said he feared the decision may drag out their “living nightmare” to see the 40-year-old recover from his injuries and his alleged attacker brought to justice.
He said: “We are angry and upset that this man has been granted bail to walk the streets as he pleases given the alleged chain of events leading to his arrest.
“This is nothing short of a complete disgrace and we are beginning to lose faith in the Thai authorities.”
The decision to release Tinsley, of Wolverhampton, was announced a week after Mr Pickles’ mum Adele made an emotional plea to keep him behind bars.
At the time, Mrs Pickles, 61, said: “We hope and pray that this man is now kept off the streets until the official trial takes place.
"We do not want any other family to go through the hell we are experiencing.”
Mr Clappison said yesterday: “Our main focus has and always will be Adam’s recovery but we are deeply concerned that any steps towards justice for him are not hindered in any way. It is vital that needless barriers do not arise towards a court of law hearing the facts about this horrific crime that nearly took him from us.
“We will continue to support Adam in any way we can and hope and pray that nobody else has to go through this living nightmare.”
Mr Pickles’ fight to wake up from his nine week coma has been hampered by a serious infection.
However, the father-of-one, who grew up in Riddlesden , continues to battle through set-backs - even attempting to remove some of his treatment tubes, a possible sign his awareness is improving, his friends said.
He remains in hospital at Leeds General Infirmary.
Meanwhile campaigners are pressing ahead with fundraising efforts to cover his care costs, which have reached £123,000 and are expected to rise with legal and rehabilitation bills. The current fundraising total stands at £78,500.
thetelegraphandargus.co.uk
There is a thread going on about carrying a gun here (that's right the baldy bespectacled doctor getting aggi about his parking space and waving a gun about).
Interesting thing about it was he was done, as a foreigner cannot carry a weapon... ("unless it's needed or in an emergency")
Unless it's needed in an emergency?? :)
Wild wild east here -
I have to wonder about motive and opportunity.
You hear about this so often -- foreigner attacked on some lonely road out in the sticks on his way home. Perhaps the motive was secondary here as the opportunity was just too much to pass up.
Few hundred baht fine? On par with not wearing a crash helmet? You forget where you are Dorothy, this aint Kansas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier
Are a few dogs enough to protect you? Or do you also "pack"? Perhaps that would be a good poll - how many farang carry/own a gun here in LOS.
Dirty Dog....the teacher in question scraped the car and got out to see what he had done, he tried apologising....and the perp attacked him. Now I dont know what kind of place you come from...or the morals of the place you live in....but in the civilised world, paint work on a car dont equate with the life of a fantastic teacher, wonderful son and a man who is the father of a little boy...your morals are skewed. A life is worth far more than any object.
I may be mistaken but no-one has noted this commentQuote:
Originally Posted by Mid
why did the UK authorities tip-off the Thais about Tinsley?
His identity as the attacker must have been known? he was flying back from the UK?
It's funny how you always hear of these sorts of stories in the news when they happen but never the end results. Is this guy walking free?
Who would be so naive to have faith in the children that are in charge of this zoo?
I have never had an once of faith in these Bozos from the 1st day I arrived here. The Thai police can't even direct traffic properly, the judges could not judge a pie eating contest, and the Thai politicians could not lead a one man charge if their life depended on it. I decided long ago that Thailand is a not a real country, at least not a civilized one. It is more third world, than a developing nation. Maybe, at , a stalled developing nation. I kind of see it as Never Never Land with the Thais all like the Lost Boys stuck in a junior high mentality. Anyone denying that is delusional.
TheAgent , My Compliments on your excellent post #252 ,clouding the issue with facts I see, please cease it forthwith as you must be well aware by now how "uptight" some people get on reading the Irrefutable truth :)
I was invited to be a a judge in a restaurant competition in PaiQuote:
Originally Posted by piwanoi
the judges were not very good, true