Thread: Thailand: California WOW faces bankruptcy suit

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Though even Amway's day seems to be over in LOS now (was big here around 2001-2004) until Sombat and Noi realize they have no friends left to sell their crap.

there is a Thai company, listed on the SET, that is doing exactly that and making a fortune by selling all kind of crap. There is no end to marketing stupidity in Thailand, best market ever, reminds me so much of the USA.

do you mean giffarine? which i believe is a cosmetics MLM/amway thing

nope, not that one. They are selling pure Thai crap, absolutely everything, and there is a time limit for vendors to get rid of their shit, or else they get no refund

MLM is a beautiful thing, people working for free and in return they enhance their communication skills

But Giffarine I believe is another..

I cant believe they are still be charged monthly for a place that is closed and in bankruptcy proceedings. bullshit

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

In addition, the members' payments were made through credit cards and cannot be cancelled. The fees are still being charged by the company without any services being provided, Ms Sawanee said.

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One way out of the problem would be to ask the Bank of Thailand to order all banks to stop debiting their clients the California Wow fitness fees, she said.

Taking this at face value, , A very poignant lesson for all of us. Given your thai credit card number to someone and you are authorising them to take whatever they want, when ever they want for delivering what ever they feel like and if you are unhappy about it.... don't expect any help from your card issuer.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Long ago I learned the hard lesson of never allowing recurring charges on my credit card

Long ago I learn't the lesson on how to never have a credit card.

A few years ago I learn't the lesson about having a retards bank account with no charges

P.S -on topic,

california wow was a ponzi scheme from day one. Anyone who didn't see this should re-evaluate their grip on reality.

I gave up on credit cards years and years ago, I've just givn in and to one as its just getting too painful to buy plane tickets online without one

Fight fire with fire mates.

Originally Posted by hazz

I've just givn in and to one as its just getting too painful to buy plane tickets online without one

Don't worry dude - Google Money coming soon. Go to an ATM enter the payment code for the flight, hit enter, done.
Then chuck that CC in the bin fella

California Wow faces fraud suit | Bangkok Post: breakingnews

California Wow faces fraud suit

• Published: 30/09/2012 at 06:12 PM
• Online news:

Members of the embattled health Club California Wow (CAWOW) on Sunday filed fraud charges against the bankrupt fitness operator for allegedly failing to provide the services agreed upon and to refund their membership fees.



The charges were filed with the Consumer Protection Police Division by about 50 members of the financially troubled health club accompanied by Saree Ongsomwang, secretary-general of Foundation for Consumers.

Ms Saree said her foundation had received complaints from 587 affected members under life-long, yearly and monthly membership contracts demanding a total of more than 30 million baht in compensation from the company.

CAWOW went into bankruptcy earlier this year and closed most of its club branches. Now It only has three facilities operating – two located in Siam Paragon and Esplanade shopping centres in Bangkok and the other in Chiang Mai province.

The complainants living in Bangkok said it was inconvenient to travel to the two remaining facilities after the club branches near their residences had been closed down and they wanted to cancel their memberships. However, the company did not give any response when they demanded their membership fees be refunded.

They also said the company was still recruiting new members even though it was facing financial problems and was now under a business rehabilitation plan. As a result, the members saw this as fraud, Ms Saree added.

The Foundation for Consumers chief believed many affected people have not filed complaints yet because the fitness operator had more than 100,000 members nationwide.


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Dear Mr Atlas, I've successfully completed your Six Week Bodybuilder course - now please send me my muscles.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

members' payments were made through credit cards and cannot be cancelled. The fees are still being charged by the company without any services being provided, Ms Sawanee said.

This is the real out of order shit - and this is legal. Years ago you could call your bank and tell them to cancel anything - but that was when they were less mercenary.

Well apparently, California WoW is trying to get the Bankruptcy Court's approval for re-organization of its business. Basically here is what they are going to do: they will close down all these big gyms and start operating as a franchise called "WoW Express". NOw these will be smaller and more compact gyms but will be greater in number and more centres all over Thailand. The math seems to work out, but I still need you guys to respond to these questions:

1) Imagine yourself as an investor, would you be willing to purchase such a franchise?
2) As a gym user, will you be able to trust California WoW again and buy memberships at these gyms?

Please reply to or just down below.
Thanks.

Recone your best bet is to put up some adds in the women's lav's at nana and soi cowboy. offer a finders fee of say 20% to any of them who can get their buffalo(s) to buy one of the franchisee. You should have no problem getting yourself a collection of the most gullible and vulnerable investors in Thailand.

Originally Posted by WattledOak25

MUST READ!

Really.....why MUST I????

Originally Posted by WattledOak25

1) Imagine yourself as an investor, would you be willing to purchase such a franchise?

Only if I was rich and fucking retarded - you are thieves

Originally Posted by WattledOak25

2) As a gym user, will you be able to trust California WoW again and buy memberships at these gyms?

Please see answer above.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ he was probably helped with hiso Thai,

I dare say you are quite correct Butterfly, its extremely difficult to get anything "off the Ground" here in Thailand (farang or otherwise)unless you are "connected" to the "right people" and of course "kickbacks" are paid

Hey I do not represent CAWOW do not misunderstand me please. I am just here to figure out what they reported to the media is feasible or not. I am writing a report on this and this is why I need feedback from you- the customers.

Will all those who purchased life-time memberships have unlimited access to any of these "lite" clubs, and (2) how would anyone be able to enforce this after the court says "OK" you can open new clubs "later"? So Bullshit pal - but nice try at being a Shill.. an amateur shill too.

Originally Posted by WattledOak25

Hey I do not represent CAWOW do not misunderstand me please

You lying sack of shit

Originally Posted by WattledOak25

I am just here to figure out what they reported to the media is feasible or not

Nobody believed your lies - you are all a bunch of thieving kunts

Originally Posted by WattledOak25

I need feedback from you- the customers.

None of us are your customers shill boy - try Thai Wisa

Thanks for all the feedback. Please keep them coming. Remember to respond to the questions I asked earlier. I am actually just a 17 year old interested in this matter, so I really need these comments to proof them in my report. I aim for at least twenty replies. I thank everyone no matter how negative your comments are. I appreciate it.