Thread: Longest-serving farang at 'Bangkok Hilton' is checking out

You may have a point Gent , I'll have a think about it.
Thanks for been frank

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by HAZEL FRIEDMAN

The syndicates recruit several mules at a time to carry varying quantities of narcotics.

They designate one or two as decoys or "sacrifices" who can be arrested by airport customs after a tip-off from the syndicates.

"Usually the ones with the smallest amounts get nabbed," said Bertil Lintner, a Swedish journalist based in Thailand, who is an internationally renowned expert on the global narcotics trade.

"The numbers look good for the Thai government's war on drugs and the risk factor is profitable for syndicates because the higher price of the drugs is maintained."

well I never ................

I imagine most don't consider the universal big business side of it.
Most will fall under the hypnotic suggestion of the good vs. bad ideal.

Originally Posted by nostromo

This is a criminal, a very bad man. Still, there are posters here wishing him all the best. Where is the world heading to.

Get real, 18 years in hell is a sufficient sentence, and his crime was such that it does not make him inherently dangerous to society (like a murderer or pedophile) if he's released. What do you want from the guy?

It's also worth noting that drug use in voluntary, so any victims of drugs bring it on themselves and the violence in the trade is because of it's illegality, much like Chicago in the 1920'2. Prohibition does not work.

Originally Posted by BobR

What do you want from the guy?

it's just the tone of the OP article by HAZEL FRIEDMAN that grates and annoys , written like he is some kind of hero / victim , he's not a freedom fighter or something, whose been banged up unjustly for 18 years and is finally been released .


eg

his Swiss girlfriend, Elizabeth Kramer Grimm...
she would make the 90-minute pilgrimage by Skytrain and ferry to visit him twice a week

I thought a pilgrimage was a long journey to a shrine, saint or something similar,
not a short air con Sky Train ride and a 10 min ferry to see drug mule.

[QUOTE"]He also spoke lovingly of his Swiss girlfriend, Elizabeth Kramer Grimm, with whom he had enjoyed the intimacy of exactly one "contact" visit during their three-year relationship. [/QUOTE]

only one ? what barbarians Hazel thinks the Thais are !
; he's lucky they did not execute him..

Not much on the internet about him , just that he was caught with 2.2 kilos going to ?

Well I'd like to hear him speak for himself before i judge him too much..

Yes you're right
and i feel for his sister
he's very lucky she was there to help.
On that Banged up Abroad series
the prisoners always say that the hardest part is
having to contact thier family.
Guess 18 years is a bit harsh, but that's why the pay for a days work is so high .

Seems such a nice boy. Why is he so naughty?

I am reminded of the TISM song "all homeboys are dickheads"

I know his dad's abusive
And his mum prefers the daughter;
I know he's got an attention
Deficiency disorder;
He is culturally excluded
And genetically inbred:
But the reason he's a homeboy
Is because he's a dickhead.

Tell me why?
Tell me why?
Tell me why... he's a homeboy?
Tell me why?
Tell me why?

We all support empowerment
And positive discrimination
When your class, your race, your age, your face
Determine your social station;
A baseball cap and a love of rap
Might need sympathy - but, still,
Possibly a homeboy could be
A dickhead pure and simple.

Tell me why?
Tell me why?
Tell me why... he's a homeboy?
Tell me why?
Tell me why?

In The Brothers Karamazov
Here's what Dostoyevsky said:
"Know your enemy well enough
And you will pity them instead"
Pity soon will turn to love
Is what Jesus Christ once knew.
They changed their minds the day when,
they met a homeboy crew.

Being a self-righteous, brainwashed, unthinking sheep is a greater crime IMHO.

They are the mainstay of those that crave power, the fuckin weak power-hungry idiots that control are lives from cradle to grave.

Originally Posted by blue

Maybe it's just the gushing journalist giving the impression , but it
sounds like he's just sorry he's got caught , rather than sorry he helped spread a vile drug. .

Heroin/Opium has been systematically demonized. Its far safer than many of the nasty drugs the drug companies make. There's no money for them if people treat thier ailments with drugs that come from nature.
No to mention the giant increase of methanphetamine use since the big crackdowns on opium and cannabis growing.
It wasnst that long when they burned cannhabis thaisticks in temples. Opium is said to have come from buddhas eyelids.
The fact is these draconian drug laws cause far more problems than they solve and serve
only to perpetuate a corrupt underworld and greedy drug corporations.
People really need to quit beeing sheep and take back control.

Originally Posted by Fondles

Fuckin piece of shit. Do the crime do the time.

I agree. He sounds like he's sorry he got caught. He'll go back to South Africa and pick up where he left off with no thought of the damage he's done to other druggies.

^seems like theres not any shortage of brain washed sheep.

The man deserved the sentence according to his own actions.

I feel no pity for him as he was a weak individual who attempted to go the old get rich quick avenue route and got busted.

At the same time I wish him all the best upon his release and hope he uses his experience and to steer others away from this evil business.

Not got much sympathy for him, but I do feel sorry for the lass in Lard Yao.

Easy to say she's stupid and should have known, but there are some cruel people who take advantage of those not equipped for the outside world, and it's not like she even had a chance. They sent her there to get caught.

I agree, she is the victim of human trafficing.

Scum.

As mentioned he was a Mule, mules get paid but not a lot, when living in Hong Kong there were smuggling groups, that was paid according to what you smuggled $3,000 was the norm to be paid, for smuggling drugs, and they never told the mules how much was in the bag, they were given the bag at check in, it was a complete and utter scam, and more fool the mules for doing it.

Desperate people do desperate things.

Any of these guys do not deserve the publicity the likes of Howard marks and chopper read etc, should be ashamed of the things they have done but no, they think its cool and all should know about it.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

The man deserved the sentence according to his own actions.

I feel no pity for him as he was a weak individual who attempted to go the old get rich quick avenue route and got busted.

At the same time I wish him all the best upon his release and hope he uses his experience and to steer others away from this evil business.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Desperate people do desperate things.

I don't believe these mules are desperate at all.

More so lazy budding criminals looking for a quick buck and they deserve exactly what they receive.

They agree to become part of the evil chain which creates desperate drug fueled communities across the world.

He's done long enough, but to promote his paintings and maybe book irks me a bit.

Fuck him

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Ok i would agree with you to a point, i was more referring to backpackers etc.

We just need to look at the Africans in Thailand now they have been brought in as a dupe to stop the big boys being caught, soon the jails will be full of them.

What do you mean soon?

Already..

I can see the head lines now.

"Drug smuggling Jewish scum survives 18 years in Thai hell hole just to be mugged and murdered by drug barons on the mean streets of Johannesburg."

I reckon that fuker will buy a one way ticket back to Thailand after he witnesses his lovely home city after all that time.

What a crime ridden waste of space that joint is and only useful for target practice for nuclear war heads.

Originally Posted by Mid

evoking the torment of a punishment that, many will argue, far exceeded his crime.

Originally Posted by Mid

At the time of his arrest for heroin trafficking

he got off lightly, they were killing people frequently back then

^
Doc, don't waste your time as Mid is the bleeding heart for all of the worlds fuk ups.

Its never there fault or the punishment is too harsh for the crime or a myriad of other piss poor excuses for the criminal scum.

Without prejudice Mid.

they were not MId's words but from the article he quoted, Terry

having said that, maybe that is correct

Originally Posted by thegent

As opposed to a nice drug? etc etc etc

someone piss in ya weeties