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    Does anyone know if you can get a tourist vise then "upgrade" it in any way?
    Someones mentioned it to me and seems to think it can be done. Sounds iffy to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvbot View Post
    Does anyone know if you can get a tourist vise then "upgrade" it in any way?
    Someones mentioned it to me and seems to think it can be done. Sounds iffy to me.
    Used to be able to, but not these days as far as i know, if you want to turn a tourist into a settlement have to go back to your country of origin and apply for a settlement visa. In days gone by, people came over on tourist visas, then got married in the UK and got the extension but i believe this was stopped quite a few years ago.

    Of course i could be totally wrong but that is how things are to the best of my limited knowledge.

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    ^ quite correct, you used to be ableto do what BB said but it was stopped a few years ago.

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    This might sound daft but now wifeys here what next with the visa? Any sort of reporting or stuff you have to deal with etc?

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    Can anyone point me in the right direction for info on this English test wifey has to do? Does it have to be done in a certain timescale etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvbot View Post
    Can anyone point me in the right direction for info on this English test wifey has to do? Does it have to be done in a certain timescale etc?
    Yep have to do it in 2 years, basically the settlement visa is for 27 months and you apply for indefinate leave to remain in the window 24-27 months (unless like me you were married over 4 years living outside UK and can apply for ILR anytime), i bought a couple of books off amazon (life in uk test, questions and answers) for the misses to practice, all depends on your misses level of english though, mine can read, speak and write fluently so no issues, but if your misses can't then send her to college and do the relevent courses.

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    ^ I didn't think you got more than 24 months, the guidelines say you must leave or apply for another by the expiry date. If your wife has a reasonable standard of written english get her to study for the Life in the UK test as bb says. If she is of a poor standard in reading and writing she can do an ESOL with Citizenship course, normally in the evenings at most further education establishments. She will then need to show progression of 1 level and submit a pass certificate plus a letter confirming progression and citizenship content. Note that you have to progress, it is not just a question of reaching a standard. If neither of them appeal there are a couple of places which do a 1 week intensive course which seem to exploit a loophole and look dodgy but they do work. These cost around £200 for the week and I know of them in Manchester and Birmingham, they are probably elsewhere. It seems nightschools don't offer this type of course because their funding is based on courses of 6mths+

    If all else fails you need another FLR at a cost of £400 (I think) then an ILR at £840 from April.

    Don't forget to collect all the documents you need for ILR, it isn't difficult but they do have to be spread across the 2 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed
    Don't forget to collect all the documents you need for ILR, it isn't difficult but they do have to be spread across the 2 years
    yes, those are necessary

    I had not realised when we applied that letters addressed to my wife would be needed, over the two year period

    luckily I still had a few bills in her name, and a couple of other letters, but they made a big fuss and took us apart to ask intimate questions to make sure we were really married and living together (who chose the wedding rings, whay colour toothbrush,,,,). we actually got a lot wrong!

    so, put her name to some of the acounts (like telephone, elec etc) and get someone to write her a letter now and then to your home address

    you will need about 90! bits

    The English test is as described above; several of my wifes friends did the intensive 200 squid course, which is the easiest way
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    My wife is on an ESOL course at the local college, but you can't do it cheaply until you've been here a year, I beat the system by pure chance and paid 300 quid rather than the 4k for an internatiol student fees.

    ESOL course is good for her to meet others, not Thais, and have a sense of independence. Quite easy for people new to a country to get trapped in the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangyai View Post
    Bloody hell. I've just read through this thread and its depressing. My gf and I have been together 6 years, have traveled together and even been on holiday to England. But all this apparently counts for jackshit if we want to go to England for a while and work towards our old age. Why ? Because we are not married and don't want to get married. We are perfectly happy just being together.

    I hate bureaucracy and dealing with it but they have you over the barrel and are dead set on giving you a thorough rogering without the kindness of KY jelly because they have something we want........legitimacy.

    An yet if we were all to convert to Islam and promise to blow ourselves to smithereens in some public place.........no worries mate...welcome to England.
    How galling it all is, like we're a bunch of criminals out to fleece the state.

    I understand very well that the tightening of all immigration laws is necessary as blighty is only a small place but to go after the minnows while schools of sharks are swimming in is totally arse about face. My own home town is awash we Poles and other east Europeans who are welcomed with open arms despite having no U.K. relatives. But we want to take our loved once home and its the Spanish Inquisition reloaded.
    Totally mad and infuriating.

    Well, sorry for the rant. Good luck with it melvbot and I hope it all pans out for you and your wife
    Lest anyone might be influenced by this drivel I should like to point out that unmarried partners, either heterosexual or queer, who can demonstrate they are in a relationship akin to marriage that has subsisted for at least 2 years may apply for a settlement visa under Para. 295A of the Immigration Rules.There is no discrimination least of all against Bangyai's whoopsie.

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    If she attends an ESOL course and starts at Level 1 and moves up to Level 2 this improving her English she will recieve a certificate then she does not need to pass the KOL requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvbot
    My fathers quite happy to act as sponsor and provide evidence of funds.
    Quote Originally Posted by NickA
    You cannot be sponsored financially, you need to show money or a job offer in your name.
    Third party support is acceptable. Judgement was given in favour of it in the UK High Court on the 16th December 2009.

    Mahad (previously referred to as AM) (Ethiopia) v Entry Clearance Officer [2009] UKSC 16 (16 December 2009)

    http://www.supremecourt.gov.uk/docs/...5_judgment.pdf

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