Thread: Visa, Extension, Permission to Stay. Explained.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

The last update is the day you obtain your letter surely?

Only if you make a transaction, been caught before, back to bank.

Originally Posted by birding

You still have to put something (100b) into the bank account on the day you get the bank letter as proof the amount is in the account on that day, for your bank book and letter will show the date of the last transaction.

I have always gone and got my letter from the bank the day before I go to immigration,never had a problem at all.the time I go to imm.8.30am.is 2.5hrs.before the bank opens.LH.the mall korat.

Originally Posted by birding

Only if you make a transaction, been caught before, back to bank.

I don't make a transaction. I update my book automatically before asking for a letter confirming finances.

I am assuming one's bank balance allows for standing orders or emergency withdrawals.

But I am sure many of us have forgotten due diligence in many areas of our lives.

Originally Posted by birding

You still have to put something (100b) into the bank account on the day you get the bank letter as proof the amount is in the account on that day, for your bank book and letter will show the date of the last transaction.

I've never made a deposit on the bank's letter date and never had a problem with that, though I did save a couple of bank fees over the last two extensions by learning that a bank letter is not required if you have an embassy letter confirming income. For my embassy-letter extension last week I didn't even need to present my bank book or a copy.

But as with much else, some flexirules rely on the bladder of your immigration officer.

Originally Posted by jabir

some flexirules rely on the bladder of your immigration officer

Who definitely has the power to make life difficult, of they wish.

Originally Posted by jabir

I've never made a deposit on the bank's letter date and never had a problem with that, though I did save a couple of bank fees over the last two extensions by learning that a bank letter is not required if you have an embassy letter confirming income. For my embassy-letter extension last week I didn't even need to present my bank book or a copy.



But as with much else, some flexirules rely on the bladder of your immigration officer.

Two completely different things here.

If your total ,800k, is to be shown to the embassy all you need is the embassy letter. But if you use the combo method then you need a bank letter stating what is in the account you use on the day you get the letter, that is why a financial transaction is required.

As I said I have been caught out with this and have had to go back to the bank make a deposit and get a new letter.

No problem if the bank letter is a day before the application.

As has been said already different immigration offices interpret things differently I can only state what I have to do for the immigration office I attend and the NZ Embassy.

That embassy requires to see proof of what I am declaring' for what I am being given is a legal document so if there is any questioning by immigration then the embassy can be held responsible, along with me, for providing a false declaration.

When I did my last application I asked about how do I show an up to date bank statement when I never touch that bank account and the guy at immigration told me to with draw 100B.
The reason for this is the letter and the bank statement both have to show the balance on the day of application.
The account statement should be for the previous 3 months.

Originally Posted by birding

...That embassy requires to see proof of what I am declaring' for what I am being given is a legal document so if there is any questioning by immigration then the embassy can be held responsible, along with me, for providing a false declaration.

Can't speak for others but the Brit embassy state in their letter words to the effect that they have seen 'evidence' of £xx monthly/annual income from each source. They are not responsible for the integrity of documents submitted to them, and therefore cannot be held to account for fake declarations.

Question. I have a valid Non-immigrant O multiple entry visa that exprires October 8, 2018. I will be flying back to Thailand on September 20, 2018 and assume that I will receive a 90 stamp. I plan to extend my current visa, so will I have to extend before October 8th, or can I wait until the 90 permission to stay stamp is close to being up even though my visa has technically expired?

Thank you Norton, that is the answer I was looking for.

Originally Posted by OhOh

As he has a valid multi entry visa, doesn't he receive "permission to stay" for a year from when he arrives back in Thailand? Which entails the standard 90 day reporting until his "permission to stay" expires or is extended.

You are confusing a Non-Immigrant Type O-A (Long Stay) visa that stamps people in a year every time they enter with a Non-Immgirant Type O <- note there is no A after the O.
A Non-O visa only stamps you in for 90 days each entry.

^My apologies.

Originally Posted by KWAN

Canadian friend went to his embassy this week for his proof of income letter etc etc - told that as of next year that this will not be taken into account for citizens of many countries :- USA , Canada, UK. Aus,-. NZ etc. Will it happen. ????

In my considered opinion, that ^ is a question best asked of an (English speaking) TIB official,...instead....eh?

I will be flying down to Bangkok on November 20th to obtain an Affidavit of Income from the US Embassy. My understanding these affidavits will no longer be accepted for visa extensions starting January 1st, 2019. I am hoping I will then still be able to obtain a new Non-Immigrant O, multiple entry visa at the Thai Consulate in Los Angeles without showing 400,000 baht in a Thai Bank account as I have done for many years.

Has using an Affidavit of Income until January 1st, 2019 already been discussed? I understand they will no longer be available to UK citizens as well. The tunnel keeps getting narrower and narrower.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

The tunnel keeps getting narrower and narrower.

I blame all those wankers that obtain their extensions by under the table payments.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

I am hoping I will then still be able to obtain a new Non-Immigrant O, multiple entry visa at the Thai Consulate in Los Angeles without showing 400,000 baht in a Thai Bank account as I have done for many years.

2 differing things, outside and inside of Thailand, ones a visa the other is a extension of stay.

No need for a Thai bank account if applying in your home country [or Savanhket at this time] if you have the assets in the US, a bit more screwing around and a retirement visa is available, which is good for near on 2 years.

Royal Thai Consulate - General Los Angeles

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I blame all those wankers that obtain their extensions by under the table payments.

They always go for retirement as the marriage route does not seem available for these lying scumbags. If you have not got 400 or 800 k spare you really should just piss off back home.

^^
James, I have used the Thai Consulate in Los Angeles for the past 13 years. This will be my first go around for an extension. In LA they want to see a recent bank account showing a balance of something like $700.00 or more, so that is their only financial paperwork. The rest is strait forward and you submit your paperwork one day and pick up your passport with the visa the next. The biggest perk is that there is no attitude and very little said, very easy. I was in the States until September and could have gone that route, but I already had an active visa that was good until October and I really HATE LA traffic. Maybe when this is over, I might wish I had just gotten a new visa in the US.

FYI- The consulate has no information on extensions or financial requirements since that is a Thai thing, which has already been stated.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Has using an Affidavit of Income until January 1st, 2019 already been discussed? I understand they will no longer be available to UK citizens as well. The tunnel keeps getting narrower and narrower.

Have you called US services? I dont think they are even issuing them at all. Denmark said no today as well.

Worth a call, but my understanding is they will stop issuing them January 1st, 2019 and they are still listed on their website as services.