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    Marriage Visa Questions

    Hello folks, could you help me with some marriage visa questions, please.

    The wife sent me some info today about marriage visa requirements (she's in the temple, not our Bkk apartment), and I just want to check it's validity:

    1) The document says the bank account must be either Kasikorn or SCB only - has anybody got another account such as Bangkok Bank and gotten the visa?

    2) The wording says "Marriage visa for one year without money 400,000 baht in your bank account." I've a 3 month non-O based on marriage (it says so in Thai on the visa), and I thought that you did need 400,000 baht in the bank account. What has been your experience?

    3) Under the list, number 9 says " Color copy Marriage and Family photo 10 picture (1 page for 2 picture). I don't have any photos from the marriage, as we just popped to the local office; no formal family ceremony or anything like that. We do have 20+ years of photos together in various countries including Thailand, in her house, etc. What has been your experience?

    The list is a bit strange, I suspect the wife might've gotten it from a legal firm or "a friend", so I'm looking up the official document. But, in the meantime, any help would be great. Thank you.
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    Nothing's ever easy is it.sorry I can't offer any advice her indoors is Lao and just to get married was a 1.5 year task to get permission from the commie bastards to get married. Bureaucracy I'll tell ya about Bureaucracy. Someone more thai knowledgeable should be along soon.
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    1) Bangkok Bank is the best bank for visa purposes. Your bank deposit must show in the documents you present as coming from overseas. Transfers to many other Thai banks show as domestic transfers, because wherever they are sent from overseas, they are processed via Bangkok Bank.

    2) I can't be arsed with a 2.

    It goes on and on.

    Feel free to pm me.

    Maybe not everywhere is as much of a pita as here.

    Your wife's info from the relevant office is what counts.

    Failing that, there is some wheat amongst the mountain of chaff on fb.

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    The pux are famiy life now at yur address

    eg in the Kitchen, Lounge garden terrace garafe etc '

    Always want one showing exact address in case of visit eg 69/111 soi Surprisem Thanon Knockingshop Bangplaad 100088 Thailand etc be on rental or hous ebook, If there is a sign on BGD LObby Car PArk use that

    Dont belive anything othe rthan the actual office where you will apply

    Many other pss forms

    Use dto ask me 2 copies very page of last 2 passports oine with the visa nd years of extensions and even blacnk pages, easy to delegate at 50 stang a vopy 102 baht

    Get a sheaf of forms off them

    May want 1-2 or more, most Immi offce have officers family running a copy shop next door etc

    get 1 dowzn passport pix done in formal atrire no hat soex earings nose rings etx, If you keep sctum va use same set for renewals, re erty , I got mu office down to 2 ste of hosue pix and 2 mushots until I moved onto retrement which u can do if over 50
    Money 800 in any Thai bank registere din Thailand I use to se Citi in Asoke but in the sticks I se CSB near Immi as they want bank book and letter same day, same for marriage extension

    They want awife appear, her ID blue book, the flowery original marriage cert and the copy f thebook from wedding offic eif doe here if oveseas I dont know

    I suggest read many treads on ASEAN now some good info between the dross, However whatever teh law says the rality its all the discretion of teh Officer you neet that day, I always fress casual , bu visa days at my age I do wear an ironed shirt with my kily and bagpipes, this 37mns the time it take sthem to enter all teg data sign about 230 forms last tine )about 190 were passport pages, 2 of evertything else

    They all add warning letters about ovesrat and smilar stuff in Thai , TINA there is no alternative if you want it sign

    PM for more info

    ND need 400k or income route possible but more complex as my embassy wont confirm
    400k must be in bank 2 months prioer to DATE OF APPLICATION, NOT DATE YOR ORESNE PERMISSION T STAY ENDS
    My office like folsk apply 11-7 weeks early as i has to go up the chain to C Mai, It may well be different in BKK only way tofind out acceptance window is ask

    That rnewal date could be forever, tho you can always biy 1 60 day one off bisit wife extension for 60 days.
    I plan mmine for months when I dont travel and happy to ne in tjailns

    Home visits always poss not by appointment bor invitation esp if first time hence map
    They request my mobie numbers I gave them my French one taht they nebever call but dlegate to wife

    Stroingly advse ley her do all talking hoe visit wher you may beed poay neiughbout Po Tai to dentify you on any random date.

    Hard seats in sun with warm water from new bottel left in Sun solbed RJs free bar Imade terribel fauz pas gii then coffe sibgle mat and cookies first time and sure enough they came vack fokowing year, the new lads are my beighvours and know Ill ut e in the hot seat near the cats latrine , PROBLEM SOLVED.

    In BK if your own tie freedom od action worthnore than $100 an hour Id pay an agent even with proper money oin the bank I rwad 12k baht and members here or Thai Vis ASEAN van pm you. I found Tod daniels many years ago very knowledgeable guy.

    No agents ip here 1900 a year 37m send her indoors do the endless copies and Im done

    PS have yer latest TM30, 90 day repotrs if don get 2 of all saves gonh out and lsoing attention place in Queue, I always avoid mondays fridays and days next to the many public hols as bigger queus, I either go 11am as they all pis off lunch together at 1145 to the great canteen where they but e kunch or around 3 as despiet advertised 430 close they like to sneal off at 33o as I would , I sit in the car park and onserved and filmed once as they all arrived an hour latem the irony e filming all teh staff photis numbers and the clock was all on Geir security camera 555555, never had any bother after that day, of cours ehere in Nakhon nowhere I am often the only client all day/.

    My wife issist in giving then 30 baht xakes I would n't feed to dog or toss at Lulu.
    Excuse turquoise typos I pnly post after the cock tale hour

    No worries sit gets easier 24oo nonsense and Im set for whole year
    Bank letters 400 copies 200 petrol 50 fee 1900 2 passport pix and few cakes 50 baht
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    2) I can't be arsed with a 2.
    Or 1 or 3...

    I went through the tortuous process of a marriage visa extension a few years ago... correct colour ink... several thousand photocopies, seasoned money (don't think the bank or proof of money origin mattered?)... witnesses who have known you (turned out the crone next door had 'known' me for nearly 20 years, yet her house book was for Khon Buri (50 km away), so she was not usable... guess what, the immigration guy had a friend who could help... and the begging bowl for tea money...

    Then they wouldn't let me renew a couple of days early, regardless that I had an offshore work trip coming up and had to leave the country.

    My advice... spend a few quid and just phone an agent. Regard it as a tax for living in this awful country.

    Even if you meet all the criteria, imo (abbreviation), that is the only way to go.
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    TiT (acronym).

    Though saying it as an acronym doesn't really work ime.

    It just sounds like a passing fancy, of no relevance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    My advice... spend a few quid and just phone an agent. Regard it as a tax for living in this awful country.

    Even if you meet all the criteria, imo (abbreviation), that is the only way to go.
    If there were agents here I would consider but no option agter 3 decades I got the hang of it and basically retired with bank and Immi in walking distance I endure an hour a year, the folks friendly fee tea water and wifi so ley wife interact with the studnet inter who copies, the lady data entry clerl

    "Fathers occupation"" wife asks

    Same as when he died in the last century I opine bit tiz a jobs worth ticking the boxes .

    At 3pm I bang on a bit reggae BBC today show, Wife winks says too loud so I have excuse put me earbuds and dip into the lux chic chip cookies,

    They know at 6 per cuppa if they get movng they may get the last half a dozen, I think it s called incentivization on the grim world of sales.

    If permanent retired to LOS a cheapo printer with add on ink bypass clone (Fortune Mall,Pantip etc) might be handy.


    As Mendy says they keep moving the goalppst to get a bung "Express Lane" they've given up on me for now, despite free lunch on them and offering their pineapples to trabslate proofreadUS college/visa applications, they tout about for 'freinds of friends" etc, I explain quoting their very own regs I am not allowed to work!!!

    Also as I explain to the n flexible bongmy v own PJ gal includes washing up, shopping,parking, cooking, laundry, gardening jobs a Thai can do, I'd love to but...........................................
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    don't bother with the marriage visa, it can be a world of pain.

    if you qualify due to age, get a non-O immigrant visa and change it for a retirement based permission to stay. you will need 800,000 though.

    the hassle factor is only a 6 compared to a 10 for the marriage one, and that's before your home and couple photos are passed round the immigration office to be sneered at because of the furniture, the clothing or a wifes fat arse.

    is there any other country in the world that insists on an applicants grovelling humiliation in order to secure a visa based on marriage.

    fuck them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    don't bother with the marriage visa, it can be a world of pain.

    if you qualify due to age, get a non-O immigrant visa and change it for a retirement based permission to stay. you will need 800,000 though.

    the hassle factor is only a 6 compared to a 10 for the marriage one, and that's before your home and couple photos are passed round the immigration office to be sneered at because of the furniture, the clothing or a wifes fat arse.

    is there any other country in the world that insists on an applicants grovelling humiliation in order to secure a visa based on marriage.

    fuck them.
    Agree 100%

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    ^ Before Covid I spent many years using annual, multiple entry Non O visas, usually from Singapore (originally from the Cardiff Consulate which was cheap and easy indeed!).

    Covid changed all that, and I went for extensions based on marriage, my first experience of Thai immigration offices.

    Due to inflexibility when trying to fulfill a full time job to enable the sending of money to Thailand, I soon went for extensions based on marriage, using an agent. No more interaction with immigration required.

    This was still not easy, so I rapidly changed to extensions based on retirement... cheaper agent fees and it gives me exactly the same as the extension based on marriage... zero security, zero relaxation and zero rights.

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    A non-O retirement visa is of no use for BettyBo since he intends to apply for a work permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    that's before your home and couple photos are passed round the immigration office to be sneered at because of the furniture, the clothing or a wifes fat arse.
    I am confident this has not occurred in our case.

    17 years in a Hua Hin condo may well have resulted in some 'wear and tear' in all of these criteria elsewhere, however.

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    Last extension time we asked the Ubon immigration about switching from retirement to marriage extensions, the officer did try to talk us into staying with an extension because it's "easier"...for us and them.
    Just had to have the 400k baht in the bank, any bank...already used the 800k in the bank method so that was no problem.
    But the rest was a bit of a PITA....marriage certificate plus another form from the amphur confirming we were still married, witness or statement from poo yai baan confirming we lived together, photos of residence including at least one of us standing next to house number, and view of whole house.
    In the end we didn't go through with it and stuck with the retirement extension. The only real advantages of a marriage visa and extension are that you only need 400k in the bank or 40,000/month instead of 800k/65000/month (why on earth do they think marriage is a cheaper option?), and that possibly if they ever raise the requirements a marriage visa "might" be more likely to be grandfathered than a retirement visa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I am confident this has not occurred in our case.

    17 years in a Hua Hin condo may well have resulted in some 'wear and tear' in all of these criteria elsewhere, however.
    no immigration officer has ever darkened the doorstep of taxexile towers, and when we lived there full time i was always on a retirement visa.

    the retirement extension was a fairly easy do it yourself procedure pre covid, at least it was once you got the paperwork sorted and were prepared to put up with the antics of the jobsworth officers. i never used an agent, and sitting in the waiting area of the immigration office was always an enjoyable experience, being able to observe the full spectrum of expat farang humanity and their spouses as they reacted to the inevitable frustrations and hoops they had to jump through in order to get their extensions, and i always found the non stop metronome thumps of the rubber stamps followed by the gentle rustling of the documentation as it was shuffled to be quite relaxing. a zen like interlude as i waited for my number to be called for the inevitable grilling and rubber stamping.

    we originally looked at the marriage visa but the thought of having to prove that our marriage was legitimate by having to go through the ridiculous charade of providing photographs inside our apartment as well as hand drawn maps was laughable, and neither of us was prepared to grovel to their stupid demands.

    we were married in the uk, and our marriage has never been registered in thailand, so that would have meant another round of form filling and authorising and translating documents. no thanks.

    now we come twice a year for 2 or 3 months at a time and the e visa system is a piece of cake and i never have anything to do with the bozos at the immigration dept, apart from getting stamped in at the airport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molle View Post
    A non-O retirement visa is of no use for BettyBo since he intends to apply for a work permit.
    You can obtain a work permit on an "O" visa.
    It all depends on why you qualified for the "O" visa
    "O" meaning 'other'
    You can qualify for an "O" visa by being married to a Thai, supporting your Thai children, or being over the age of 50. There are I believe other categories.
    Of the 3 I have listed it is only the over 50 category that disqualifies you form obtaining a work permit
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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    thumps of the rubber stamps followed by the gentle rustling of the documentation as it was shuffled to be quite relaxing
    So you wont need a xanax (bend so die as I am) up the blurter after a happy ending, I always have one before you do my root, may I assure strangers you have a gentle molar side manner.

    As for BB needs get the nong drop shipping or tooling up for the next phase of AI so he may retire in comfort

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molle View Post
    A non-O retirement visa is of no use for BettyBo since he intends to apply for a work permit.
    He's applying for a 'non o' based on marriage to a Thai.

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    Thank you all for your answers - I now feel a lot worse...

    The wife wants the marriage visa, so we'll try (frankly, I don't care what visa, as long as I can hang around, relax, maybe work, etc). Thus, the provisional plan is to visit her/our house (which I built for her, but have zero intention of living in...) get much/most/all of the documentation ready then visit the local immigration office and see what else they want. Of course, I've gotta open a bank account first, just need to get my name on the apartment lease document (which I should be able to do today) then I'll pop to the Mall Tha Pra to try and open the account (while I also sort out my AIS eSim (that might be problematic too - my phone doesn't have any physical sims). if I can't open a bank account in the Mall Tha Pra then I'll pop to the Silom branch which is supposed to be easier (?). I can also pop down soi 4 to get some photos for Mendip and Willy!

    I have the 3 month Non-O visa based on marriage - this should allow me to apply for a marriage visa then a work permit if I need it. If I can get by doing some online work from the UK then I will, but maybe I'll get a job here (I suspect the salary won't be high enough, but I'll look around).

    Another quick question, the wife's house is in Nakhon Nayok, so do we need to sort out the marriage visa there, or... we rent an apartment in Bangkok, should we apply there (I suspect the Nakhon Nayok route is the way forward, but I don't know.

    Strangely (and, I'm aware this might not last), I'm feeling very mellow and masochistically looking forward to the idiocy of this workload. Just to go through it is another experience in life (can it be worse than sorting out the China visas and endless bs?)...

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    You need 400k in your bank account for two months prior, so that's the first thing to do.

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    Thanks Cyrille, I'll do that as soon as I open the bank account.

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    I'm with the Bangkok Bank and never had a problem with that at my immigration office.

    The thing with a non O extension based on marriage is that providing you know the requirements of your local immigration office , and then make sure to get all your ducks in a row on the day , then its not so difficult. I'm usually done in an hour. Considering there are 365 days in a year , one morning going there is not so bad. On the advice of my friendly immigration officer I had a rubber stamp with my name printed on it made up for 200 baht. Very useful and speeds things up a lot. Just go through the pile of papertwork stamping each sheet then back again signing . Done.

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    Did you previously have to print your name and then sign it on every document?

    Where I go I just have to sign every document and they stamp it above my signature.

    It's a complete waste of time, as after about the twentieth time my sig is unrecognisable.

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    The wife wants the marriage visa, so we'll try (frankly, I don't care what visa, as long as I can hang around, relax, maybe work, etc). Thus, the provisional plan is to visit her/our house (which I built for her, but have zero intention of living in...)
    nobodys business but yours, but the question needs to be asked. are you in a "good" marriage?

    if not and should the marriage end, then so does your visa. also, by declaring to be married your wife is entitled to tax breaks if she is working and pays tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Did you previously have to print your name and then sign it on every document?

    Where I go I just have to sign every document and they stamp it above my signature.

    It's a complete waste of time, as after about the twentieth time my sig is unrecognisable.

    Yes....print and sign every document. As you say , a complete waste of time and my signature almost flat lines by the end. Just jobs for the boys and giving the civil servants something to do. They care about it all about as much as I do. But it is what it is so I live with it because its only once a year and the stamp has made life a lot easier.
    Fortunately my immigration office is very quiet and the staff are charming. Glad I don't live in a tourist hotspot.

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    Right, I'm towards the final stages - but, I will try to use an agent.

    If anybody knows an agent then please PM me. Thank you, BB

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