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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Oslo website states 'Temporarily suspended'.
    It is always up to the TIO. Did you ask them to call "head office"?

    The same visa should be available, you are still an exempt category, "visiting Thai Spouse/family"

    Clause 1, Category 3.

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    (Click on Thailand on the map and all is documented, as of 1st July 2021)

    It's the same visa Oslo granted you last time, which you successfully extended in Thailand, albeit only until your then passport expired?

    If you apply for a 90 day "O" visa single entry, "visiting Thai Spouse/family", you will be able to stay initially for 90 days.

    I would contact your contact person in Oslo to get confirmation as to it's availability to you. You are visiting your spouse/child. Their unavailable note should not apply to you, just "joe blog".

    When you are back living here then a single entry is enough and the "extension to stay" can be applied for in country. As you applied for and were granted.

    Process:

    1. Contact your contact person in Oslo to get confirmation as to the visa is availability to you.

    2. Check with your TIO to confirm that, during the 90 permitted to stay period, if Oslo will grant a 90 day visa - you only need a valid visa when you apply for an extension, you will be requesting a one year extension and then you will know if they can issue one, subject to finance in a Thai bank.

    It appears a hotel stay is still required. Every time you leave Thailand, you will need to purchase a re-entry permit.



    A link to "head office" rules,

    (3. NON-IMMIGRANT VISA)

    Issuance of Visa - Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Thailand

    Those extra document packs, with the new COE, test result .... may come in useful.
    Last edited by OhOh; 06-07-2021 at 12:48 AM.
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    ^ All Thai Embassies has the single entry 90 day non-Imm O visa on their menu

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    "If you apply for a 90 day "O" visa single entry, "visiting Thai Spouse/family", you will be able to stay initially for 90 days."

    And immediately get a 60 day extension based on 'visiting family' starting from the end date for 1,900thb.

    150 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Incidentally... does anyone know why the Non O multiple entry visas are so difficult to now get?
    Most likely because of abuse.
    Thai Immigration has decided that they and not some embassy clerk should have control over who is allowed to long-stay in Thailand.
    I doubt that multiple-entry non-Imm O will reappear in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    ^ All Thai Embassies has the single entry 90 day non-Imm O visa on their menu
    The statement from the Thai embassy, Oslo site:

    "SINGLE ENTRY: 700 NOK MULTIPLE ENTRY: 1700 NOK (TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED EXCEPT FOR O-A )"

    Non-Immigrant Visa (Work, Study, Long Visit) – Royal Thai Embassy in Oslo

    It could be saying:

    Single entry OK for issue, multiple entry "suspended", or both Single entry and multiple entry suspended.

    The Thai embassy, Oslo, issued him a Single entry one 6 months ago. Contact them for confirmation.
    Last edited by OhOh; 06-07-2021 at 09:57 AM.

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    ^ OhOh, a couple of things...

    I entered Thailand in January on a multiple entry Non O from Singapore. I have never been issued a visa from Oslo. Earlier this year I was dealing with the Stockholm Embassy for my CoE. My next work will be in Norway, hence my reference to the Oslo Embassy.

    The main thing about all of this is that it will be extremely difficult to apply for a new visa every time I return from work. As soon as quarantine restrictions are removed to enter Thailand I hope to get back onto a regular work rotation in Norway... either 4 week or 6 week turnarounds. I'll be offshore so no chance of getting a visa until I get back onshore, which would then mean a few days in Oslo every time while I sort a visa out. This would not only eat into my time off considerably but also be very expensive with hotels and the like. Not to mention pissing of the contractors I'll be working for with all the hassle. Another point... the application forms for all visas I've previously been issued with have asked for a flight date... I won't have that until the day the work finishes, meaning any online applications would be delayed until that point... then waiting for approval and visa pick up. The whole thing is impossible. Not to mention what happens if I'm working in West Africa... there's no Thai embassy in Pointe Noire.

    The multiple entry Non O has been perfect for my circumstances but it seems they may be a thing of the past. My hope is that they have been temporarily suspended due to Covid but I fear it is due to a policy change as Lom and Happy as Larry eluded to.

    I have the option of entering Thailand on visa exempt with a throw away onward flight... but during Covid where can you buy a throw away flight to? Everywhere is closed. This is also not a long term solution to my mind... sooner or later I will run into problems entering on single flights and I believe there is a limit to how many visa exempts you can use in a year anyway.

    Just now an annual extension with a multiple re-entry permit is as good as it gets for me. I've just been very unlucky in that my first ever extension expires while I'll be away on my first work trip since extending. Sods law I guess. I'm disappointed at how inflexible immigration are at not allowing an early renewal.

    I can see that there are options using agents... expensive... but I have to weigh that up against Norwegian hotel prices and the hassle of constantly applying for visas. Maybe I'll just have to include this cost with the others now necessary for living in Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Just now an annual extension with a multiple re-entry permit is as good as it gets for me. I've just been very unlucky in that my first ever extension expires while I'll be away on my first work trip since extending. Sods law I guess.
    I can't see any major difference between the two cases, if the previous multi-entry visa or the current extension expires when you are out of Thailand then you have to find an embassy and get a new visa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    The main thing about all of this is that it will be extremely difficult to apply for a new visa every time I return from work.
    You don't have to if when you are on a one year extension (1900 baht) with multiple reentry (+3000 baht), it will last for many of your 4-6 weeks rotations.
    There will come at time when the extension expires but that is the same with a multi-entry non-Imm O except that if you are in Thailand at the expiry date then it is much easier to get a new extension than it was getting a new multi-entry non-Imm O. The extension is really Yogi's bollox.

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    The multi entry option was abused by 1000's people living here full time that didn't meet the annual extension or legal employment requirements, and used it to live/work here full-time.

    Ironically enough, the people it was supposedly set up for, people that don't live here full time but visit their family here for extended stays per year, like Mendo, kinda get fucked over by the time frame of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    I can't see any major difference between the two cases, if the previous multi-entry visa or the current extension expires when you are out of Thailand then you have to find an embassy and get a new visa.
    You're right Lom, but it can be a big problem finding an embassy to get a visa if on work trips. Unless established with a company it's very awkward asking them to delay your flight... etc etc. Covid has made this many times more difficult of course.

    Anyway, I'm sure I'll sort something out but I can't help feeling disappointed at how inflexible immigration has been when all I'm trying to do the right thing.

    But there ya go.

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    Firstly, my apologies mistaking where you last "visa" was issued.

    The Thai Foreign Ministry in Bangkok has a telephone help line you can call. Allegedly one can apply for an extension at head office, in Bangkok, bypassing you local TIO.

    I had issues with my TIO. They, the educated clerk, the immigration officer and her boss, were adamant they knew the rules. When my officer checked with the "head office" they were surprised the issue was as I stated, the officer said, she had never heard of it. She was the number two officer.

    Explain your situation, leaving the country prior to your extension expiring for work abroad and would like an extension for one year to facilitate visiting your Thai wife and child, between your foreign work schedule. You work in different countries, not often in your home country, the UK.

    They may say yes or no.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I have the option of entering Thailand on visa exempt with a throw away onward flight
    The "extension to stay" route demands a valid visa, your "visa exempt" entry may not qualify as a valid visa. I suspect it just a short term, "permission to stay" that's stamped in your passport.

    Worth phoning and checking.

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    ^ Thank you OhOh... I will look in to this.

    I can't believe how inflexible they are being over timing... all criteria are met.

    Edit: I mean nice people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    over timing
    Life is always "timing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    They, the educated clerk, the immigration officer and her boss, were adamant they knew the rules. When my officer checked with the "head office" they were surprised the issue was as I stated
    I get same every year. Usually about a new document requirement which actually does not exist. Made up by locals to augment their income by issueing one a "special" 1 year extension.

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    @mendip - re: the throwaway ticket - you can buy/ rent a throwaway ticket from onwardfly dot com or similar sites. They cost around 10-12 usd and the booking is good for 24 or 48 hours (read the fine print). You can "buy" a cheap flight to anywhere, e.g. Maldives, you'll be given your e-ticket & itinerary via email, which you can show at airport check-in/ immigration. I've seen some travel vloggers do this stuff.

    Good luck on your visa issues. I don't know much about TH visas & immigration. In PH, the country is still closed off to foreign tourists. The application process for the retirement visa (SRRV) has been reopened, but the age requirement has been increased (from 35 to 50 y.o). There's also rumours of Immigration changing the rules on long term tourist visas.

    I've seen from a vlogger in Vietnam that many foreigners on tourist visas have also left recently, due to the govt rules. Some of those foreigners were teaching English online or teaching in academies without the proper work permits. VN has no retirement visa, but it has a spouse visa. As such, one vlogger said that many foreigners have married their GFs so as not to get kicked out of the country.

    Same in PH, I've heard. Many foreigners are rushing to the altar/ city hall to be eligible for the spouse visa. The retirement visa needs a bank deposit, which many can't afford / don't want to part with.

    Malaysia still has the MM2H (Malaysia my 2nd home) residency program suspended and is still closed to most foreigners.

    It's not just TH that's cracking down on foreigners. It's happening in the region.

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    Is medical insurance required for a one year extension of stay based on married to a Thai

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Is medical insurance required for a one year extension of stay based on married to a Thai
    No, at least if applying within Thailand.

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    i just wonder how long before immigration is in lockdown? my last 90day report [may] we wernt allowed to sit inside but had to sit outside with all them from ? then someone called you in,fk.off i am next ignorant bastard.some bright spark will come up with some bright idea.
    should we organize a protest

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    MY RETIREMENT EXTENSION NIGHTMARE AGAIN at korat immigration.
    yesterday i went to do my extension,all the forms filled in plus the letter from the bank [10-30am] got to imm.at 11am.presented the forms to one of the VOLANTEERS whom didnt know her arse from her elbow.
    first check.bank book,fixed ac.with 1.5 million baht the had been in it for over 8yrs.the last entry 15th.nov.interest and tax deducted.NT GOOD ENOUGH it has got to dated the same day as the letter [VOLANTEER].plus every page of the bank book must be photo copied.
    next up photo copies of blue house book plus a photo copy of the wife's id and signed by her NOT GOOD ENOUGH as i dont drive anymore i have a thai driver who speakes good english and is married to a farang so she knows the score.NOW EVERYONE has to go to another office and get a letter from imm.witnessed and signed as proof of where yo live,never mind the 60 or so times you have given it to them these past 12yrs. so be warned if your ext.your retirement stay or if your on a marriage ext. you must take your wife or a witness.
    this took over 1.5 hrs.as there was a long que,as my driver got to the front 12pm.they closed for lunch.had to sit on a plastic chair for anther hr.got the letter at1.35pm
    along with 38 photo caopies we waited another 30minutes,to see a proper immigration police officer who only took 20minutes to get my passport stamped for another yr.
    at 77yrs.old i dont need this,the wife spoke to the bank yesterday and arranged for me to open a ordinary deposit acc.enogh to cover my.ext.and health cover.so i dont get this aggrivation by gormless pricks who think they once they get a jacket with iim.police volanteer on the back are gods.but know FTK.ALL.
    i hope richard barrow reads this as urban joe does on TV.forum.also i suffer from epilepsy so its difficult for me to sign 40photo coppies.
    cant think of anymore for now i have to take the dog for her walk.
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    ^Isn't there any decent agents in Korat to take care of all the bullshit while you sit at home watching TV with a pulse under 100 bpm? If there's not, I'd be going for a short holiday to somewhere like Bangkok or Pattaya to where there are agents who do all the legwork (for a fee obviously) but what price do you put on your own sanity?

    My renewal is due shortly and if it's anything like the last half a dozen times it'll involve me dropping my Passport and bank letter off at my agent, going to Immigration and calling a phone number so a pre-arranged staffer can come outside to meet me, escort me inside, take my photo, then bid me a good day, and then I pick my Passport up the following day from the agency and that's that for another year. Life's way too short to be dealing with Thai bureaucracy and what good is it having a few bob in the bank and being totally fine with the local corruption if you don't take advantage of it?

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    It’s a farce to be sure.

    Pretty sure it has to be done at the nearest office to where you live.

    I console myself with the thought that at least the financial requirement hasn’t gone through the roof as in Malaysia.

    As for all the farcical nonsense - TiT.

    Oh, and obviously you don’t rock up at anywhere near noon.

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    thanks HW. for the reply it hass crossed my mind to try and find a good honest agent.korat imm.used to be very good and fair,till they moved from dan kwain.but they the pat 3yrs are useing volanteers to check your paper work.when i told her[vol] about fixed acc. she just said UHG monkey talk.but what worries me is iit legal to use an agent and is the stamp legit.as my home and all my eggs are here in a few baskets,as my galavanting is coming to an end.i have first han knowlege of these volanteers as my inlaws daughter was one,and what she knows is YES F.ALL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    .but what worries me is iit legal to use an agent and is the stamp legit
    I can only talk about Pattaya Immigration but the stamp is 100% legit and this is a *process* that's been in place for a very long time here. You could argue the legalities of it all I suppose but let's not forget we're in Thailand and this sort of thing is how the country operates from the very top down, always has been and always will be. These services are openly advertised.

    The Immigration people don't look at this as corruption, they call it profit sharing as the clients were always going to get their extensions and all they've done is make the process less stressful for them. And there's not a lot of stress doing it the way I mentioned above then getting a text the following day saying Passport's ready mate while half asleep on the sofa.

    The horror stories (like yours) of being totally fucked around by some pleb in uniform who'd be going out of his/her way to make sure your extension was facilitated with no inconvenience if they got a small slice of the pie too ensures I'll never try to do my own legwork/paperwork.

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    These are nationwide, service Korat

    https://mythaivisa.com

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    Perhaps it would help to remember that the staff do not decide the requirements. Their job is to make sure your application contains what is required, as decided by the head honcho.

    Personally I reckon it's they who have the worst end of the deal, having to ask for things they know are ridiculous and dealing with cranky expats who frequently can't speak much Thai.

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