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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Oslo website states 'Temporarily suspended'.
    It is always up to the TIO. Did you ask them to call "head office"?

    The same visa should be available, you are still an exempt category, "visiting Thai Spouse/family"

    Clause 1, Category 3.

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    (Click on Thailand on the map and all is documented, as of 1st July 2021)

    It's the same visa Oslo granted you last time, which you successfully extended in Thailand, albeit only until your then passport expired?

    If you apply for a 90 day "O" visa single entry, "visiting Thai Spouse/family", you will be able to stay initially for 90 days.

    I would contact your contact person in Oslo to get confirmation as to it's availability to you. You are visiting your spouse/child. Their unavailable note should not apply to you, just "joe blog".

    When you are back living here then a single entry is enough and the "extension to stay" can be applied for in country. As you applied for and were granted.

    Process:

    1. Contact your contact person in Oslo to get confirmation as to the visa is availability to you.

    2. Check with your TIO to confirm that, during the 90 permitted to stay period, if Oslo will grant a 90 day visa - you only need a valid visa when you apply for an extension, you will be requesting a one year extension and then you will know if they can issue one, subject to finance in a Thai bank.

    It appears a hotel stay is still required. Every time you leave Thailand, you will need to purchase a re-entry permit.



    A link to "head office" rules,

    (3. NON-IMMIGRANT VISA)

    Issuance of Visa - Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Thailand

    Those extra document packs, with the new COE, test result .... may come in useful.
    Last edited by OhOh; 06-07-2021 at 12:48 AM.
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    ^ All Thai Embassies has the single entry 90 day non-Imm O visa on their menu

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    "If you apply for a 90 day "O" visa single entry, "visiting Thai Spouse/family", you will be able to stay initially for 90 days."

    And immediately get a 60 day extension based on 'visiting family' starting from the end date for 1,900thb.

    150 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Incidentally... does anyone know why the Non O multiple entry visas are so difficult to now get?
    Most likely because of abuse.
    Thai Immigration has decided that they and not some embassy clerk should have control over who is allowed to long-stay in Thailand.
    I doubt that multiple-entry non-Imm O will reappear in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    ^ All Thai Embassies has the single entry 90 day non-Imm O visa on their menu
    The statement from the Thai embassy, Oslo site:

    "SINGLE ENTRY: 700 NOK MULTIPLE ENTRY: 1700 NOK (TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED EXCEPT FOR O-A )"

    Non-Immigrant Visa (Work, Study, Long Visit) – Royal Thai Embassy in Oslo

    It could be saying:

    Single entry OK for issue, multiple entry "suspended", or both Single entry and multiple entry suspended.

    The Thai embassy, Oslo, issued him a Single entry one 6 months ago. Contact them for confirmation.
    Last edited by OhOh; 06-07-2021 at 09:57 AM.

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    ^ OhOh, a couple of things...

    I entered Thailand in January on a multiple entry Non O from Singapore. I have never been issued a visa from Oslo. Earlier this year I was dealing with the Stockholm Embassy for my CoE. My next work will be in Norway, hence my reference to the Oslo Embassy.

    The main thing about all of this is that it will be extremely difficult to apply for a new visa every time I return from work. As soon as quarantine restrictions are removed to enter Thailand I hope to get back onto a regular work rotation in Norway... either 4 week or 6 week turnarounds. I'll be offshore so no chance of getting a visa until I get back onshore, which would then mean a few days in Oslo every time while I sort a visa out. This would not only eat into my time off considerably but also be very expensive with hotels and the like. Not to mention pissing of the contractors I'll be working for with all the hassle. Another point... the application forms for all visas I've previously been issued with have asked for a flight date... I won't have that until the day the work finishes, meaning any online applications would be delayed until that point... then waiting for approval and visa pick up. The whole thing is impossible. Not to mention what happens if I'm working in West Africa... there's no Thai embassy in Pointe Noire.

    The multiple entry Non O has been perfect for my circumstances but it seems they may be a thing of the past. My hope is that they have been temporarily suspended due to Covid but I fear it is due to a policy change as Lom and Happy as Larry eluded to.

    I have the option of entering Thailand on visa exempt with a throw away onward flight... but during Covid where can you buy a throw away flight to? Everywhere is closed. This is also not a long term solution to my mind... sooner or later I will run into problems entering on single flights and I believe there is a limit to how many visa exempts you can use in a year anyway.

    Just now an annual extension with a multiple re-entry permit is as good as it gets for me. I've just been very unlucky in that my first ever extension expires while I'll be away on my first work trip since extending. Sods law I guess. I'm disappointed at how inflexible immigration are at not allowing an early renewal.

    I can see that there are options using agents... expensive... but I have to weigh that up against Norwegian hotel prices and the hassle of constantly applying for visas. Maybe I'll just have to include this cost with the others now necessary for living in Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Just now an annual extension with a multiple re-entry permit is as good as it gets for me. I've just been very unlucky in that my first ever extension expires while I'll be away on my first work trip since extending. Sods law I guess.
    I can't see any major difference between the two cases, if the previous multi-entry visa or the current extension expires when you are out of Thailand then you have to find an embassy and get a new visa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    The main thing about all of this is that it will be extremely difficult to apply for a new visa every time I return from work.
    You don't have to if when you are on a one year extension (1900 baht) with multiple reentry (+3000 baht), it will last for many of your 4-6 weeks rotations.
    There will come at time when the extension expires but that is the same with a multi-entry non-Imm O except that if you are in Thailand at the expiry date then it is much easier to get a new extension than it was getting a new multi-entry non-Imm O. The extension is really Yogi's bollox.
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    The multi entry option was abused by 1000's people living here full time that didn't meet the annual extension or legal employment requirements, and used it to live/work here full-time.

    Ironically enough, the people it was supposedly set up for, people that don't live here full time but visit their family here for extended stays per year, like Mendo, kinda get fucked over by the time frame of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    I can't see any major difference between the two cases, if the previous multi-entry visa or the current extension expires when you are out of Thailand then you have to find an embassy and get a new visa.
    You're right Lom, but it can be a big problem finding an embassy to get a visa if on work trips. Unless established with a company it's very awkward asking them to delay your flight... etc etc. Covid has made this many times more difficult of course.

    Anyway, I'm sure I'll sort something out but I can't help feeling disappointed at how inflexible immigration has been when all I'm trying to do the right thing.

    But there ya go.

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    Firstly, my apologies mistaking where you last "visa" was issued.

    The Thai Foreign Ministry in Bangkok has a telephone help line you can call. Allegedly one can apply for an extension at head office, in Bangkok, bypassing you local TIO.

    I had issues with my TIO. They, the educated clerk, the immigration officer and her boss, were adamant they knew the rules. When my officer checked with the "head office" they were surprised the issue was as I stated, the officer said, she had never heard of it. She was the number two officer.

    Explain your situation, leaving the country prior to your extension expiring for work abroad and would like an extension for one year to facilitate visiting your Thai wife and child, between your foreign work schedule. You work in different countries, not often in your home country, the UK.

    They may say yes or no.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I have the option of entering Thailand on visa exempt with a throw away onward flight
    The "extension to stay" route demands a valid visa, your "visa exempt" entry may not qualify as a valid visa. I suspect it just a short term, "permission to stay" that's stamped in your passport.

    Worth phoning and checking.

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    ^ Thank you OhOh... I will look in to this.

    I can't believe how inflexible they are being over timing... all criteria are met.

    Edit: I mean nice people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    over timing
    Life is always "timing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    They, the educated clerk, the immigration officer and her boss, were adamant they knew the rules. When my officer checked with the "head office" they were surprised the issue was as I stated
    I get same every year. Usually about a new document requirement which actually does not exist. Made up by locals to augment their income by issueing one a "special" 1 year extension.

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    @mendip - re: the throwaway ticket - you can buy/ rent a throwaway ticket from onwardfly dot com or similar sites. They cost around 10-12 usd and the booking is good for 24 or 48 hours (read the fine print). You can "buy" a cheap flight to anywhere, e.g. Maldives, you'll be given your e-ticket & itinerary via email, which you can show at airport check-in/ immigration. I've seen some travel vloggers do this stuff.

    Good luck on your visa issues. I don't know much about TH visas & immigration. In PH, the country is still closed off to foreign tourists. The application process for the retirement visa (SRRV) has been reopened, but the age requirement has been increased (from 35 to 50 y.o). There's also rumours of Immigration changing the rules on long term tourist visas.

    I've seen from a vlogger in Vietnam that many foreigners on tourist visas have also left recently, due to the govt rules. Some of those foreigners were teaching English online or teaching in academies without the proper work permits. VN has no retirement visa, but it has a spouse visa. As such, one vlogger said that many foreigners have married their GFs so as not to get kicked out of the country.

    Same in PH, I've heard. Many foreigners are rushing to the altar/ city hall to be eligible for the spouse visa. The retirement visa needs a bank deposit, which many can't afford / don't want to part with.

    Malaysia still has the MM2H (Malaysia my 2nd home) residency program suspended and is still closed to most foreigners.

    It's not just TH that's cracking down on foreigners. It's happening in the region.

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