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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I've been offered some good work in Norway starting mid September... ie right in the critical time for reapplying for the extension to stay. If I'm away I guess the extension expires and I will be left with no visa to re-enter Thailand after the work finishes.
    You can get a 90 day Non-O from the Thai embassy in Norway.

    Non-Immigrant Visa (Work, Study, Long Visit) – Royal Thai Embassy in Oslo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Thanks Bogon.

    A problem is that I'll be entering on a single ticket and airlines can be very reluctant to let you board without a return. I'd much rather be entering with a valid visa/extension.
    You can just buy a cheap throwaway no luggage ticket to somewhere outside Thailand.

    Im in the same predicament and Iíll probably just let the extension lapse and if needed, come back on a visa exempt. Then swap to a non-o at immigration if Iím going to be back for a while.

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    When does covid extension end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff View Post
    When does covid extension end?
    Best check with your immigration office but mine says July 29 is drop dead date to request the 60 day extension. 1,900 baht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Best check with your immigration office but mine says July 29 is drop dead date to request the 60 day extension.
    Yes that is correct.
    The 60 day covid extension is between Oct 1 2020 and Sept 30 2021 and they have not shown any sign of extending that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    You can get a 90 day Non-O from the Thai embassy in Norway.

    Non-Immigrant Visa (Work, Study, Long Visit) – Royal Thai Embassy in Oslo
    Thanks Edmond... I may look into this as my work will be onshore for a couple of months, maybe longer, so there will be time to post of passports and stuff.

    Ican never understand getting these Non O visas... until Covid, for years I've got multiple entry Non Os based on marriage, usually from Singapore. Then last year when working in Sweden I found that the Thai embassy in London doesn't do these... only does single entry. Nothing seems to be standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    You can just buy a cheap throwaway no luggage ticket to somewhere outside Thailand.

    Im in the same predicament and I’ll probably just let the extension lapse and if needed, come back on a visa exempt. Then swap to a non-o at immigration if I’m going to be back for a while.
    Yeah, I've considered this as well... thanks.

    My favourite option will be to renew my extension a couple of months early as that would then last through to next September and should cover me until Covid is no longer a problem and I can go back to multiple entry Non Os... surely things will be back to normal in a year...

    The immigration office is only a 10 minute drive away so I need to go and ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    surely things will be back to normal in a year...
    Everyone was saying this 15 months ago.

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    It's always been mental. I remember when I first came here they told me to apply for an education visa from Hull because that was the easy place at the time.

    Got a 1 year visa for 4 week TEFL course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Ican never understand getting these Non O visas... until Covid, for years I've got multiple entry Non Os based on marriage, usually from Singapore. Then last year when working in Sweden I found that the Thai embassy in London doesn't do these... only does single entry. Nothing seems to be standard.
    The multiple entry non-O has disappeared from many embassies in Asia and is not available any more in Singapore:

    NON-IMMIGRANT VISA-O (THAI SPOUSE) Non-Immigrant Visa-O may be granted to applicants who are lawfully married to a Thai citizen.
    Please check your eligibility to apply for visa at the Royal Thai Embassy, Singapore, at Instructions for visa application

    Types and Validity:
    •Single-Entry Non-Immigrant Visa-O: 90 days after the date of application. Visa holders may contact the Immigration Bureau of Thailand, after entering Thailand, for the extension of stay and re-entry permit.
    •Multiple-Entry Non-Immigrant Visa-O: 1 year after the date of application. (Currently not applicable)



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    ^ Thanks Lom, I wasn't aware of that.

    Hopefully this is just a temporary measure during Covid, although the option of an annual, multiple entry Non O visa does seem to be disappearing from many embassies and consulates.

    Working a regular rotation overseas seems to be getting awfully complicated. and as I'm finding now, the extensions aren't really the answer.

    ... not to mention now requiring a work permit for work in Norway... which takes around 10 weeks to get from application... but that's for another thread altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    the option of an annual, multiple entry Non O visa does seem to be disappearing from many embassies and consulates.
    A single entry non-O based on marriage gives you 90 days and it is extensible by another 60 days, after that you'll have to leave Thailand and get a new 90-day non-O visa.

    It is better to apply for a yearly extension of stay and you can pay for a single or a multiple reentry on it afterwards if you need to leave for work.
    Work periods making it impossible for you to use it fully for one year? Who cares nothing to lose, everything to win, price is not higher than the first alternative..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I'm currently on my first ever extension of stay (based on marriage) to a Non O visa... the extension expires on October 5th and immigration said I have to apply for another 12 month extension before September 5th,
    Haven't you only just, 1 or two moths ago, been "awarded" your extension of stay - for 12 months?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I need to talk to immigration, but was wondering if anyone please knows offhand how early I can apply for another 12 month extension,
    I'm presuming your "extension of stay", you requested, was for 1 year.

    Is that what you were "awarded"? Or have I missed another saga?

    If you were:

    1. When you applied for it and your local TIO checked/accepted that you had delivered all the requested paperwork, your passport would have been stamped with the date you applied your "extension of stay".

    2. On the same day it will also have been stamped with a "date to return", 1 month later, when you were to go back to get your full year stamp. It being checked and "awarded" by head office.

    3. When you returned (2.) you would have received a stamp in your passport:

    "Extension of stay up to .... (There will be a date indicating your extention expiry date)", 12 months from your date of application. (1.)

    4. Your passport will be stamped with the date you recieved (3.)

    5. A document indicating when you need to return (an every 90 days check) would have been stapled into your passport.

    6. To keep your existing "Extension of stay" valid you need to purchase a "Rentry Permit" from either your local TIO or at BKK prior to flying/passing through the immigration exit gate. Check where it is situated at BKK and what time it is open. There should be a note stamped in your passport. Once you have that, you can return up to your existing "Extension of stay up to" date.

    Check your passport stamps!

    If you were awarded a shorter time, I suspect you are able to apply at any time. The new extension would of course require the same requirements, paperwork, attendees and finance amount seasoning. Along with, it's starting date being the date of application. Your TIO will confirm, or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I'd much rather be entering with a valid visa/extension.
    visa/extension
    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    maybe by the end of the year I could fly back via Songapore and pick up a multiple entry Non O... or maybe not.
    No airline will fly you to BKK/SIN on a one-way ticket without a valid BKK/SIN visa/extension. They are liable to return you at their expense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    It only needs to be in your bank account on the day of application.
    Some form of Thai evidence of being the child's father, along with child being in attendance, I suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong View Post
    Got a 1 year visa for 4 week TEFL course
    Sent off a headed letter from one of my dad's companies saying they want to base me in Thailand to research export opportunities and got back a 12 month Non-B working visa around 2004/5.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    to be getting awfully complicated. and as I'm finding now, the extensions aren't really the answer.
    They are, once you understand the "RULES"

    1. Obtain an extension. Prepare your paperwork/finance seasoning.

    2. If in Thailand, report your location every 90 days. At your local TIO or by the online system, if it is working.

    3. If you leave Thailand, purchase a "Re-entry Stamp", prior to exit.

    4. Return to Thailand, prior to you "Permission to Stay" date + time to start (1) .

    5. Goto 1.


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    ^ Yes, that is the history exacty and I know the passport stamps.

    My extension is until 5th October... the date my now expired passport lasted until. That was as long as they would give me.

    This means I have to apply for another extension before 5th September... and as you say... going through all the hoops.

    The thing is, I'll be away for work in September... for 2 or 3 months. This means I'll be returning on a single ticket with no valid visa or permission to stay.

    Maybe I can sort a visa out in Norway, or maybe not. One thing for sure, if I'm working in West Africa there won't be a handy embassy.

    And anywhere else... get off a boat or leave an office and start trying to get any kind of entry visa... it ain't easy.

    I'm sure I can sort something out, but it certainly isn't straight forward and will be costly and eat into time off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    to be getting awfully complicated. and as I'm finding now, the extensions aren't really the answer.
    They are, once you understand the "RULES"

    1. Obtain an extension. Prepare your paperwork/finance seasoning.

    2. If in Thailand, report your location every 90 days. At your local TIO or by the online system, if it is working.

    3. If you leave Thailand, purchase a "Re-entry Stamp", prior to exit.

    4. Return to Thailand, prior to you "Permission to Stay" date.

    5. Goto 1.

    Last edited by OhOh; 16-06-2021 at 10:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    My extension is until 5th October... the date my now expired passport lasted until. That was as long as they would give me.
    It would had been much easier for you if you had sorted out your new passport a bit earlier, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to apply for a yearly extension, it is very easy especially if you have once done it.
    Yours could have lasted until April-May next year and with a reentry permit you would have returned from your September to November work with the extension of stay still valid.
    There is no easier or cheaper alternative for you than the yearly extension of stay.

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    Lom, I applied for a new passport pretty much as soon as I arrived in Thailand... it took 10 weeks to get.

    It's irrelevant how long an extension could have lasted if I could have received a new passpirt earlier than anyone else... these things will always happen. I have no fixed schedules . Maybe an extension would have lasted until next April... maybe I'll be working next March to June?

    Rocket scientist or not, this has become very difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I have no fixed schedules . Maybe an extension would have lasted until next April... maybe I'll be working next March to June?
    So maybe you would not get a whole year out of your extension of stay. So what? Start over from scratch again.
    You will at most times get more than 90+60 days out of the yearly extension.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    these things will always happen.
    yes and the chance for them to happen while you are on your last (4th) multiple entry visa (if you can get such in the future) vs the chance for it to happen while you are on a yearly extension? I say the chance is same..
    Last edited by lom; 16-06-2021 at 10:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    the date my now expired passport lasted until. That was as long as they would give me.
    Ahah.

    Passport complications.

    You now have your new passport, you travelled to BKK especially, I remember.

    Has your TIO transferred your "Permission to Stay" into it?

    If not, get that done.

    Then:

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    If you were awarded a shorter time,
    Apply again.

    At least enough time before to receive your second 1 year, "Permission to Stay" stamp, wielding your now in your possession, "new passport".
    Last edited by OhOh; 16-06-2021 at 10:14 PM.

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    Lulu on a bike.

    Message an agent.

    Pay a few K.

    Get your extension with multiple re-entry permit, and never think of it again.

    (or not for another 12 month anyway)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Get your extension with multiple re-entry permit, and never think of it again.
    His difficulty was his passport lifetime/validity, not visa/extention. Agents can do what, "provide" a new passport?

    The UK will issue new replacement passports on demand, or even a second one, and their validity starts when the old one expires.

    The UK rules state one must return the expiring passport with application.

    The Thai rules state one must carry ones valid passport.

    My previous experience is, Thai rules win.
    Last edited by OhOh; 16-06-2021 at 10:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I'm currently on my first ever extension of stay (based on marriage) to a Non O visa... the extension expires on October 5th and immigration said I have to apply for another 12 month extension before September 5th, I guess to allow for the 30 day processing time.

    I've been offered some good work in Norway starting mid September... ie right in the critical time for reapplying for the extension to stay. If I'm away I guess the extension expires and I will be left with no visa to re-enter Thailand after the work finishes.

    I need to talk to immigration, but was wondering if anyone please knows offhand how early I can apply for another 12 month extension, ie could I apply in early August, two months before my current extension expires?


    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    Message an agent.

    Pay a few K.

    Get your extension with multiple re-entry permit, and never think of it again.

    (or not for another 12 month anyway)
    .....

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    His difficulty was his passport lifetime/validity, not visa/extention.
    .....

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    Today I went to Korat immigration to investigate renewing my annual extension a month early because I'll be away when the current extension expires (Oct 5th).

    After speaking with several officers in progressing seniority, this is impossible, because it's 'against policy'. The earliest I can apply for the extension is August 26th, therefore a waste of time because I'll be gone during the 30 day 'consideration period'... my work starts early September. It was impossible for immigration to allow the new extension application just 3 weeks before their usual 'policy'.

    It looks like I'll be re-entering at the end of the year on visa exempt... if an airline will allow it and if I can buy a throw away flight out of Bangkok as I'll be entering on a single ticket. This of course depends on whether there are nearby countries open for travel to buy the throw away ticket to.

    I know that it's an old and boring gripe, but I find it incredibly frustrating to have to continually go through these hoops after 15 years. All I want to do is work and take care of my daughter. Surely I'm one of the 'good guys'... maybe not. It really has pissed me off today.

    Incidentally... does anyone know why the Non O multiple entry visas are so difficult to now get? I used to get them regularly from the consulate in Cardiff, but that's long gone. London only offers single entry visas. For many years I've been using Singapore, but the Thai embassy in Singapore (if it was accessible) no longer offers multiple entry Non O visas (based on marriage). And neither does the Thai embassy in Oslo (my work will be in Norway). The Singapore website states 'currently not available' and the Oslo website states 'Temporarily suspended'. To work rotations overseas and live in Thailand is becoming really difficult, if not impossible.
    Last edited by Mendip; 05-07-2021 at 09:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Incidentally... does anyone know why the Non O multiple entry visas are so difficult to now get? .
    My understanding is that they want everybody to get the 'right' visa and the process started some time ago.

    If you are living here then a single entry is enough and the extension can be applied for in country.
    If you are not living here then a single entry is enough.

    Yes this causes people like yourself who work offshore some issues.

    It is not just Non - O I understand it is the same for Non - B & Ed visas. You are not being targeted personally, although sometimes it appears that way

    It is another way of discouraging people who live here and do border runs every 3 months.

    It is not something that was brought in because of Covid.

    I did read somewhere in the last few months about discussions on an overhaul of visa requirements due to falling requests.
    I will believe that when I see it in the Royal Gazette or whatever

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